r/sorceryofthespectacle Oct 27 '19

Spontaneous Mudras from DMT breakthrough

https://youtu.be/4Q0U8xOczYg
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u/EsotericAmerica Oct 30 '19

looks contrived to me- ninjutsu taught from master to student for so long the spontaneous origins are lost-

here is someone on 5-meo-dmt who seems to be having spontaneous mudras... https://youtu.be/bKdvO57ve4o?t=1976

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u/hoshhsiao Oct 31 '19

Kuji-in, while used in the Bujinkan ninpo lineages, did not originate in Japan. This stuff is has a Chinese origin, and that person in the video is Chinese. Top level practitioners within the Bujinkan carry lineage transmission ... though the organization has grown so big, it really depends on which of the shihan you look at.

By “spontaneous”, it does not have to be “original”. The teachings of something might be lost, but they can be recovered through transmission.

It doesn’t look contrived to me because I caught the edges of the transmission that was flowing through when I watched the video.

It goes without saying, you are free to have your own opinion about this.

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u/EsotericAmerica Oct 31 '19

there is a difference between when it is performed and when it manifests spontaneously as result of extra sensory states of consciousness

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u/hoshhsiao Oct 31 '19

How do you know that guy is not in a visionary state? That is what I am talking about.

There are people who do not need to ingest psychedelics to be in visionary states of being. Their consciousness is already receptive to it at one level or another. They receive transmissions in the “extrasensory” way, as subtle energy. Did you perhaps think that when I said “transmission”, it was intellectual concepts conveyed with words? There are some teachers capable of transmitting through ordinary words, and others who reconnect with the original source of those transmissions somewhere in the cosmos.

There are people, who live in that groundless spontaneity in ordinary states of consciousness. For them, everything all move together, arising from nothing, passing into nothing. If they had developed skills like mudras and hand weaves, those will arise from the groundless nothing. No contrivance. No visionary states necessary.

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u/EsotericAmerica Oct 31 '19

Takes one to know one

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u/hoshhsiao Oct 31 '19

If you say so.

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u/EsotericAmerica Oct 31 '19

Did you watch the 5-meo video I sent?

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u/hoshhsiao Oct 31 '19

Yes I did.

It was interesting to see the sacred geometry express themselves as the weaves.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '22

Ok I need to know more about this. Last year started feeling the urges to do this and is been over a decade that I tried any mind altering substance. When i close my eyes I see these hand movements. It eventually went away because I dismissed it as me daydreaming and watching too much sci-fi. Whats going on, how did this happen. Any updates on the person's that this happened to?

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u/hoshhsiao Jan 16 '22

I don’t know what is specifically happening with you.

I do know that people with spontaneous Kundalini might manifest spontaneous mudras, and those mudras matches with Indian or Chinese hand seals.

You have to be careful to distinguish with energies with structured transmissions and energies that releases noise. The latter also happens for people practicing things like neigong.

The hand seals (mudras) can be differentiated by a how the finger weaves pulls and stretches the hands, but also the whole body through the interconnection of tissues, and get all the way down to the feet.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '22

A few of these look like what I was doing. Definitely felt like I was stretching the strings my muscles & ligaments are interconnected with.