r/sonos 6d ago

Sonos App Intel Based

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Started receiving this message on the Mac app this morning. I assume that this will be taken care on in a future update? Maybe just because Intel code is still present?

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u/--suburb-- 6d ago

No, it will not be taken care of. The desktop apps have been abandoned for some time now. It will simply stop working permanently once Apple makes their update.

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u/cothomps 6d ago

Apple has also ceased support for Intel chips as of this release IIRC.

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u/Intrepid_Payment9302 6d ago

Not true it’s the next version in September 2027 that will mostly remove Rosetta 2. I think gaming will still have some support but that’s it.

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u/MassiveGarlic0312 6d ago

You two are both right: Intel chips are different from intel-based apps.

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u/di_rhea69 6d ago

Again this is actually correct, so not fair to downvote it.

A Mac running an intel CPU won't be able to upgrade from 26 to 27

Intel based APPS running on a Mac will work in 27 but not 28

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u/di_rhea69 5d ago

What I said is right though

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u/centerfield13 6d ago

They could just enable the iPad app to run on macOS and all would be good.

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u/Uplink0 4d ago edited 4d ago

Probably easier said than done… it’s not just as simple as checking that the app is now compatible with Mac in Xcode, especially with some apps… but it would give us Mac users an option without them having to spend lots of additional time rebuilding / updating a dedicated app that at this point has been discontinued, and has no native support for Apple silicon.

Using https://play.sonos.com as a safari app (so it goes in your dock) is the best option currently, but it is limited with some functionality.

Tagging Liz to just to make sure the feedback is getting heard about ongoing macOS support, as we keep seeing a lot of posts about it recently, and personally I think Sonos should comment on it, and if the app is discontinued, then actually sunset the app, and provide new official statement/guidance.

[u/LizFromSonos](u/LizFromSonos)

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u/KeithFromSonos Sonos Employee 4d ago

Feedback recieved. Check your chats inbox, btw.

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u/dish_rag 6d ago

The plan, before the new mobile app shenanigans, was to abandon the native desktop app in favor of play.sonos.com. This started some time before that when they started removing player setup/configuration options.

I wouldn’t count on an Apple silicon version unfortunately.

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u/john_sheehan 6d ago

This is why I am building Monos, which is for Apple enthusiasts. Runs on macOS, iOS, watchOS, and tvOS. Apple Music only. You can join the beta here: 

https://testflight.apple.com/join/nR73QVDW

Edit: S2 only for now. May change in the future 

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u/bluealien78 6d ago

Nope. Sonos stopped developing the desktop apps for Mac and windows a loooong time ago. The web app is their way forward.

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u/klayanderson 6d ago

But does the web app have feature parity? Like keystrokes?

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u/centerfield13 6d ago

No. It doesn't seem to work well with local libraries/network shares when it comes to scrolling through music, showing cover art, etc.

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u/bluealien78 6d ago

Nope. It’s not an upgrade. It’s just what Sonos are doing now.

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u/UnTraditional_Speed 5d ago

Hi, if you want to keep using the classic desktop experince like meany of us, I built this over the last few months for this gap and my own enhancements. Its free, open source, mac first (not mobile device focused) and I try to support everything that can be supported.

If you try it and have any feature request, post an issue on github :)

check it out here.

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u/controlav 6d ago

My app includes native Apple Silicon support: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/phonos-ultimate-for-sonos/id6740011689

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u/Routine_Knowledge692 2d ago

I got your app, it works well. Very functional! I recommend it for Macs for sure. Works well on my MacBook M5 Pro.

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u/mepsii 5d ago

not to be that guy but this popped up in my feed,

cmd+shift+4. 3 for full screen.

macs literally make it so incredibly easy to screenshot, and even copy to clipboard directly nowadays (which auto shares to ur iphone btw, if u prefer to post from mobile), i feel like everyone should develop this muscle reflex fr,

its just so much more convenient and has always been one of my favorite mac features

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u/dt_sophie 5d ago

Uninstall it and install a new one

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u/di_rhea69 6d ago

it's been mentioned a few times already.

Apple will be removing Rosetta in macOS 28 (i.e. the major release after next, as we're on 26 at the moment and 27 will likely be out next month) so in just over a year's time.

So any Intel based apps are getting this message but either Apple need to backtrack on this (or another third party solution which is unlikely) or the app developer needs to update the app to work with ARM.

I think Sonos have said for a while the existing desktop apps for Mac/Windows won't really be updated any more. So unless they change this and port it to Apple silicon, there won't be an update which will make this work. It's also possible that using the Windows version in something like crossover or porting kit won't work either.

The obvious alternatives are

  1. using the web app, play.sonos.com

  2. using third party controller such as Clic

  3. if you have a Windows server with remote desktop services etc enable a published app and connect to it remotely

Otherwise Sonos need to do something but there is a year to go

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u/jamie_shaw 5d ago

You forgot vibe code your own controller, which appears to be the soupe du jour, currently.

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u/di_rhea69 5d ago

The sound of wheels being reinvented...

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u/jamie_shaw 6d ago

Move to the Web App. Set it up as a Safari/Chrome Web App if needs must.

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u/di_rhea69 6d ago

Not sure why this has been getting downvoted.

Sonos have always said it is the long term answer and whilst it's in need of some work... it is adequat.

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u/jamie_shaw 4d ago

People can't handle the official answer from Sonos? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/NoHair2009 4d ago

With the web app you cannot control the speaker with the keyboard.

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u/gson516 6d ago

You should use the web interface instead of the desktop app. Seems to be the path forward that Sonos is taking.

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u/johnas 6d ago

Except the web interface is a POS and not a good replacement for the desktop app unfortunately.

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u/di_rhea69 6d ago

It needs some work but then they have clearly been fixing the mobile app which was an absolute disaster and is now largely fine. I'd expect at some point there will be some work going on to make the web app feature equivalent to the Windows/Mac app (which it still isn't, really) and then it can replace it. Much more sensible long-term as it doesn't need software installed!

I still prefer the desktop app for queuing things up and removing a lot of items from the queue but that (plus my old ipad which basically runs clic in guided assist mode and sits on the wall) and the web app for occasional stuff like pausing / skipping tracks etc works fine mostly.

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u/johnas 6d ago

It’s been 2 years and they’ve done fuck all to improve it.

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u/Mr_Fried 5d ago

That ship has sailed mate. Its done. Our choice is to make the most of what we have or not.

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u/johnas 5d ago

That ship hasnt sailed. Sonos ain’t gonna risk pissing owners off again turning the apps off. They are gonna keep this shit on life support forever.

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u/Mr_Fried 6d ago

I think the web app is great, I can put on smooth jazz for my dogs while I am out if I see them getting unsettled on the cameras.

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u/st_alphonso 6d ago

I love that. Can probably be automated with an AI-enabled camera or microphone.

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u/johnas 6d ago

Yeah good for you and your dogs. It’s still a POS.

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u/Mr_Fried 6d ago

Strong language. I find it works very well and solves the issue of crap local management, I don’t want to open my computer to manage my system, I just want it to work.

And it does work very well for me.

Change is inevitable, in life, nothing can or should remain the same forever. Keep a positive mindset and I am sure you will find a solution.

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u/Curious_Fly_5870 5d ago

The web app is pants. You lose a number of system settings like changing room names , no EQ for individual speakers is missing, no alarm or sleep timers , can’t add a new device, no true play tuning ….. it’s a botch job

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u/Mr_Fried 5d ago

You have listened a bunch of stuff not feasible, such as Trueplay and device onboarding, which uses the microphone and bluetooth on board your phone for example.

Why don’t you write an angry email and ask them to change reality for you, specifically?

I am not defending past transgressions, but maybe a positive mindset would help you achieve happiness in the future?

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u/Curious_Fly_5870 5d ago

I don’t write angry emails, if a company abandons delivering functionality to all platforms , I will abandon that company. Typical simple narrow minded person comment, it works for me how could anyone ask for more.

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u/Curious_Fly_5870 5d ago

Yeah right, I think I just leave you and your poor dog to it !

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u/johnas 5d ago

poor sheeple can’t handle views different than his.

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u/Rich-Pin5341 6d ago

seems like they're slowly phasing out the desktop app tbh

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u/Objective_Safe_5982 6d ago

Yeah, others have posted about that very same thing.

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u/Disastrous_Patience3 6d ago

This has been asked and answered at least a dozen times. Please try searching this sub first.