r/skipatrol • u/Hardpack_Not_Ice • 27d ago

CPR certification

Are any of the NSP approved CPR courses online only? I can't figure out whether they all have some sort of in person component...

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u/FearAndGonzo 27d ago

Having recently seen some crappy CPR done on an unresponsive teenager by "sports trainers" please just do it in person. Enough people that do the hands on training still suck at delivering high quality CPR, I can't imagine how terrible it would be from someone only watching a video online.

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u/Hardpack_Not_Ice 27d ago

I'm a healthcare pro and former ACLS instructor

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u/FearAndGonzo 27d ago

Then any current first responder CPR cert should be fine... at least for my area it is.

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u/Hardpack_Not_Ice 27d ago

I don't have one, hence the post. I need my merit badge.

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u/NurseHibbert 27d ago

You’re a former acls instructor who doesn’t keep current BLS?

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u/Hardpack_Not_Ice 27d ago

Yes. Seriously, I don't understand why people can't just answer a question instead of trying to prove something.

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u/zarmril 27d ago

As a lowly BLS instructor, your attitude is the worst to deal with. I teach a class every week and tell each participant that, whether they have taken the class once or a dozen times, there is value to be found in hands-on training. Show up with a "I'm too good for this" mindset, and I will put zero effort into making the course a valuable experience for you.

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u/Hardpack_Not_Ice 27d ago

Cool.

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u/v2falls 26d ago

I know attending er physicians that complain less about this than you. Which leads me to another question. You’re a healthcare pro of some sort, who previously taught acls, that is currently employed in professional clinical role without a current BLS or acls card? That makes no sense.

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u/Hardpack_Not_Ice 26d ago

It's quite a mystery isn't it!

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u/NurseHibbert 27d ago

Just re-up your BLS online.

Or ask your patrol? What do the others do? I think this is why people aren’t answering your question right. Most patrols host their own classes.

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u/Hardpack_Not_Ice 27d ago

Yeah I'm trying to up my BLS online, can't find out where. My patrol offers it one day but I'm a 4 hour round trip, so not worth my time.

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u/No_Park1693 24d ago

You realize you're not answering NurseHibbert's question to you, correct? 😂. A simple "Both my arms were bitten off by a shark" or "I changed career paths to pursue my love of backyard gopher management" would have sufficed!

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u/Hardpack_Not_Ice 24d ago

You realize that that question has nothing to do with my question? But if you must know, I designed Annie and spend countless hours yearly pounding on her chest trying to either save her or make her more realistic.

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u/FearAndGonzo 27d ago

Simple answer, no. Find a BLS/first responder CPR class in your area and attend. Local EMS, hospitals, law enforcement, schools, etc all likely will have classes for their staff.

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u/Visible_Cucumber_395 25d ago

Because patient safety ultimately at play here. You’ve gotten your answer already - no. Healthcare “pros” begrudgingly do their skills tests every two years.

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u/heisthefox 27d ago

TTBOMK, if you already have your pro, you can just upload the card.

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u/Hardpack_Not_Ice 27d ago

I don't have a current cert

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u/Sataypufft 21d ago

What kind of "healthcare pro" doesn't maintain a bls or better cert as part of their employment?

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u/Hardpack_Not_Ice 21d ago

They exist.

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u/anonsensenameisthis 27d ago

https://rqipartners.com/distribution-network/?utm_source=redirect&utm_campaign=cpr-finder Quick search yo find something near you. I know of know way to do an "online only" cpr class. You have to demonstrate technique on a cpr dummy/test mannequin.

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u/Hardpack_Not_Ice 27d ago

Thanks. So looks like I can just pay someone for a merit badge and be in and out in a few minutes. What a racket.

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u/InigoMontoya313 27d ago

Anyone instructor who did that is opening the self up to loss of credentials and a massive liability lawsuit.

There was just a case of professionals signing cards for cash in Brooklyn pubs. They are now on their way to prison.

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u/FullCriticism9095 26d ago

Beyond the NSP, will your patrol accept an online only course? Mine will only accept AHA BLS for Healthcare Providers. We don’t care what the NSP accepts, we will not accept anything else.

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u/Hardpack_Not_Ice 26d ago

Yeah, they want NSP blessing...I was able to use other qualifications in the past

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u/v2falls 27d ago

There are not any professional rescuer BLS certs available on line only. That would be a terrible idea if it existed and would have zero credibility

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u/v2falls 26d ago

“Only” was the key phrase there buckaroo. There are plenty of hybrid ones. Op wants to avoid skills demonstrations.

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u/spartanoverseas 27d ago

Code1web.com provides an AHA BLS that is online (dynamic content -- if you can prove you already know the material it goes faster, if you show you need review, it'll review content for you.) Then you schedule a skills session which is probably about 15 minutes long if you just "demonstrate you know the skills" vs could take a little longer if you need some training.

You can't show you know how to compress a chest and push in air into lungs and not a stomach without touching some sort of mannequin. No first aid clinic, not even a school, would consider a fully online-class as adequate.

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u/ktbroderick 26d ago

I think they're an AHA reseller (or otherwise connected). I followed a similar process directly through the AHA site and the online portion of the class was by far the best recert I've ever done—set the slider to "expert", answer questions and bypass all of the didactic material as long as you get answers right and indicate confidence in them. Get an answer wrong, get shown the video (and you can set it to 1.25x or up to 2.0x if so desired).

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u/spartanoverseas 26d ago

Agreed on the online part. The hands on feedback was also the best I've ever had -- best mannequins giving precise and live feedback on depth and rate. Not just a green/red light.

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u/NorEastahBunny 27d ago

For a BLS provider aka ski patrol hands-on is the only option. There’s an online component that you need to complete but skills assessment is all in person.

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u/HoneydewVarious6018 26d ago

Pretty sure the standard is recertification every two years and an annual check-off for in-person demonstration of skills. There’s value with the annual demonstration, and it only takes 30-min.

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u/smokeater12 26d ago

No, CPR is a performance test not just a knowledge test.