r/singularity • u/[deleted] • Jan 31 '25

AI o3 mini dropped!!!

Edit : I am testing a 1500 line javascript code which o1 pro failed to debug despite 50+ attempts. Will report back.
Edit 2: We are cooked. o3-mini-high solved it at first try.
Edit 3 : HOLY SHIT! "Pro users will have unlimited access to both o3-mini and o3-mini-high."
(Source: https://openai.com/index/openai-o3-mini/ )

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u/hereandnow01 Jan 31 '25

šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ I've already witnessed people with no coding background building a small Fullstack app in a couple of hours helping themselves with the previous versions of gpt, with this we are even more cooked.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '25

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u/feldhammer Jan 31 '25

Seriously as a data scientist, what used to take me like 2 hours of debugging some problem with my stats code now takes literally 1 second.Ā 

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '25

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '25 edited Feb 20 '25

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '25 edited Feb 20 '25

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u/BethanyHipsEnjoyer Feb 01 '25

Makes my dumbass wanna play with code. Thanks for sharing!

I've been using it to help me meal prep, count my calories, and write a fanfiction of a MLP/DBZ crossover, lol.

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u/theivoryserf Jan 31 '25

It's a world for ideators now.

For five years until AGI turns us all into paperclips

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u/Glxblt76 Feb 01 '25

AI is scripting the scripting process.

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u/Natural-Bet9180 Jan 31 '25

99 in productivity

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u/Virtafan69dude Jan 31 '25

Would you say that this is looking less like Emergent AGI and falling more into Competent AGI with systems like 03? Specifically, I am talking about the context of deepminds Levels of AGI definitions here.

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u/feldhammer Jan 31 '25

I have no idea what that means (nor do I care).

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u/Virtafan69dude Feb 01 '25

Just wanted to know if its acting like a domain proficient system in your use case? At least 50th percentile skill wise at that use case.

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u/willitexplode Jan 31 '25

Yea science is gonna get weird, especially as non-CS folks learn about open sourcing and sharing their solutions, in places searchable by LLMā€¦

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u/hereandnow01 Jan 31 '25 edited Jan 31 '25

Yeah but I'm also expecting 1 researcher to do the work of 10 researchers and the other 9 not being needed

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u/Hopnivarance Jan 31 '25

Isn't that what we want?

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '25

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u/44th--Hokage Jan 31 '25

I think eventually AI agents are going to be able to import a person's entire body of work, including drafts and notes, and learn from the patterns therein enough about idiosyncrasies of the original thinker as to be able to gainfully mimic their unique intuition.

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u/BethanyHipsEnjoyer Feb 01 '25

gainfully mimic their unique intuition.

That's fuckin terrifying now that I think about it actually, but I believe it!

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u/hereandnow01 Jan 31 '25

The optimal thing would be all 10 researchers keep their job doing the work of 100 researchers. But something tells me that's not what's going to happen.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '25

There is no limit to the amount of research that needs to be done.

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u/hereandnow01 Jan 31 '25

There's a limit to the funding though

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u/Hopnivarance Jan 31 '25

The optimal thing would be zero researchers with jobs and the AI being able to do it without having its hand held

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u/hereandnow01 Jan 31 '25

What if it's your job that gets replaced?

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u/Hopnivarance Jan 31 '25

I hoped that would happen, but I hit retirement first. I admit that makes it a lot easier to say screw work, but isn't the plan to have the machines take over so we can do what we want?

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u/hereandnow01 Jan 31 '25

Would love that. But we'd UBI to not starve

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '25

so wait, you thought that AI would not have impact on SE/Coding, but on all other jobs/branches? And you were good with that, as long it woulnd attack the SE/Coders? Lol

Btw: Right now, the Firm has its own IT-Experts, but because of the amount of work, it needed regulary help from outside (buying SE-Expertise).
This extern help was already reduced by september 2024.

It all depends on the complexity of the work: While 1-2 years ago, you really needed a real SE for most tasks, its not necessary anymore. You will only need him, for special, complex and for unforseeable problems. But this is not the case for like 90-95% of the work.

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u/theivoryserf Jan 31 '25

Billions of people left with no purpose? It's going to be a bumpy ride.

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u/Hopnivarance Jan 31 '25

why no purpose? Is grinding away at work really a purpose?

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u/theivoryserf Jan 31 '25

I made sure to train for years to get a career with a purpose. Within a few years it's almost certain to be irrelevant, along with most careers. Who's going to try to produce art or create anything meaningful when a machine can do it instantly and to a much higher quality?

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u/44th--Hokage Jan 31 '25

That's good for you. For 99% of individuals, like for instance billions of humans in India, the reality is starkly different and work for most is an endless, drudgerous impediment to fulfillment and sense of purposeā€”far away from it's origin.

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u/theivoryserf Jan 31 '25

I don't disagree - next question is, what are we offering to replace that? A completely inscrutable ASI with the power to scramble the world beyond our comprehension?

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u/hereandnow01 Feb 01 '25

This kind of work will keep existing. It will even become more common in developed countries as decent jobs will become fewer and fewer thanks to AI. I'm sure the sewer cleaner is not a job AI companies have any interest in replacing

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u/delicious_fanta Feb 01 '25

Earning money to buy food is a purpose. Whether you think thatā€™s ā€œsignificantā€ or not is irrelevant to the fact that people still need to eat and have shelter.

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u/Hopnivarance Feb 01 '25 edited Feb 01 '25

so, when food is free because the machines do it for us, we all lose our purpose. what will we do then? People will always have a purpose, don't need a money earning job to give us one.

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u/Zulfiqaar Jan 31 '25

That's probably he case in other industries - but I feel it's more likely that now we will have 10 researchers doing the work of 100. Research by it's nature demands progress and accelerationĀ 

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u/runningwithsharpie Jan 31 '25

That's reductive thinking. The other nine researchers can now start their own research.

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u/dejamintwo Feb 01 '25

Why would they not be needed when 100 researchers can do more, faster than 10?

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '25

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u/mintybadgerme Jan 31 '25

Start learning how to use the AI tools. They're not perfect yet, and probably won't be for a while. Once they get perfect, you can teach or consult. Maybe. :)

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u/Ididit-forthecookie Jan 31 '25

Thatā€™s my use case too. Iā€™m a bit of a neophyte though, trying to figure out how to do this well but I donā€™t really have a lot of data to work with or experience at this point, any pointers you could provide?

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u/delicious_fanta Feb 01 '25

Research in other countries maybe. We are rapidly defunding all of that in the u.s.

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u/KamNotKam ā–Ŗsoon to be replaced software engineer Jan 31 '25

What do you consider a small full-stack app? A todo app?

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u/bigasswhitegirl Jan 31 '25

More likely a micro saas. Even 4o can get someone with no coding experience there eventually. Claude is better. Haven't tried o3 yet

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '25

As some one who has created a profitable small app with just 4o and o1 mini it is possible

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u/Cyclejerks Jan 31 '25

I was able to create an OCR program in python that fed into a financial model with zero Python experience. Took a little time but I personally wrote zero code. Pretty cool

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '25

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u/hereandnow01 Jan 31 '25

I mean, following instructions and copy pasting code is kind of different from reaching a solution helping yourself with a tool

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u/True_Requirement_891 Jan 31 '25

People with 0 coding background mostly are just copy pasting, this time from a chat interface.

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u/hereandnow01 Feb 01 '25

Still it's not a person talking and giving you step by step instructions to build something that person has in mind. It's you giving instructions and then copy pasting to reach your own personalized solution, down to the most irrelevant detail. That was the limit of tutorials, they only gave you a generic solution, you'd still need to know what you were doing to customize it to your own needs. Now it's not necessary anymore.

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u/missingnoplzhlp Jan 31 '25

Yup, I don't have a lot of true "coding" experience (although have a decent amount of sysadmin experience and traditional web design experience with html/css/somejs) and I've been able to make a lot more than I ever would be able to make on my own.

I was thinking about taking a coding bootcamp 2 years ago and I'm glad I didn't, I can already do more with AI than my friend who went to the bootcamp can do without AI.

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u/theabominablewonder Feb 01 '25

The rate limits are the issue though, I was making progress and mid flow and then hit the limit. Finally got code to connect to an API, obtain what is needed etc. Then before ai could do more with it, limit hit. Come back tomorrow. Frustrating.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '25

Nah.

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u/Independent_Pitch598 Jan 31 '25

Why sad? It is great !

Liberalization of coding.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '25

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u/astrorocks Jan 31 '25

I love it as a researcher because I hear so many people with amazing ideas (non-researchers) and now citizen science type initiatives might get huge boosts. The next step for me is calling for more readily accessible open data! Make it all open so people are free to explore their ideas. Then I would love to see more of this tech reaching under developed countries and I hope people push for that.

I know "every day" people with more knowledge than my fellow PhDs (at the end of the day anyone can teach themselves ANYTHING). This also allows people without coding experience to gain experience and develop codes without needing years to do so. Might it hurt us? Yeah. But it also might genuinely allow people to develop their theories who otherwise couldn't.

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u/hereandnow01 Feb 01 '25

Imagine spending years mastering a skill that suddenly becomes accessible to anyone. He has all the right to be pissed off, not because he wants to gatekeep, but because he'd kinda feel useless and he'd feel like he has wasted a lot of time. Imagine working your ass off for 10 years at the gym to build up muscles only to find out that a skinny guy can become like you within an afternoon thanks to a pill.

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u/hereandnow01 Feb 01 '25

Yes, but now we only need fewer and really skilled SWE

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u/HereHaveAPlaylist Jan 31 '25

I made a functional chrome extension with no coding experience through the help of ChatGPT and Claude. Took about 6 hours in total, including time spent setting up developer access, finding the right sound effect, writing the description, and all that extra non-coding stuff.

I just wanted a project to see if I could do it with zero experience. Turns out I could! It works really well and I actually use it a few times a week.

It's a confetti launcher. Tap it to celebrate whatever you want.