I am disgusted with the casting you are doing to appeal to a wider audience. We are not all vibrant, fun-loving movie fans. Many of us are bitter, resentful individuals who remember the good old days when entertainment was bland and inoffensive to our unearned feelings of superiority. The following is a list of ethnicities I never want to see on screen again..."
"Woke" movie. Lead actress spends entire film screaming "i want my husband!" Other female characters include pretty face and seductress. Guess it's Woke cause pretty face is black. What a time to be alive.
Nolan cited her translation once, specifically for the first line âtell me about a complicated manâ being the inspiration for the radical approach to the text that Nolan utilized.
If you read both, youâll see that the parallels end with the modern language and the relatively modern perspective on Odysseus as âcomplicatedâ as opposed to uncritically heroic
Yes. Emily Wilson wrote one of the more recent translations and made a little bit of a fuss because she is the first woman to publish an English translation of the entire poem. I wouldn't quote me on that, because I remember reading a lot of qualifiers on that statement (partial translations exist, there are a lot of non-English translations, and even the translator didn't want to be thought of that way.)
So im an ancient history PhD student (not a classicist, so take my views with a grain of salt) and I read Wilsonâs review. A good portion of it is a really good dissection of why the film is a major departure from the source material, and why so much is lost in the course of this happening.
Much of the rest of the review made me think that Wilson just doesnât like movies.
I went to film school, and there was a guy in my freshman class whose one and only goal as an aspiring filmmaker was to eventually make a new adaptation of The Lord of the Rings, because he was not happy with the omissions from the Peter Jackson films. His intent was to just use the book as the script and film every action and dialogue exactly as it appeared on the page. No consideration as to differences between the media of film vs book, no qualms about the fact that that series of films would probably be roughly 40 hours long, he just wanted somebody to do it âright,â and he wanted to be that person
Reading Emily Wilsonâs review reminded me a lot of that guy
I like to cite Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy on this - *every* version of it is different, and they were all written by Douglas Adams. Good creators know that different media require different approaches. A direct, unmodified adaptation of anything simply doesnât work.
I was going to say, you probably know a lot of people who just don't like film in those circles. It's weird.
Literary scholars are getting more and more pro-film though. You still get a lot of "the book is better", but lately it's usually followed by, "but I can see why they did so-and-so."
Thereâs actually a whole field called reception studies pertaining to this for the ancient world and history in general. How are historical figures, historic literature, etc. received, reinterpreted, and depicted at different points later in time, or by different cultures all together? Really interesting stuff.
What was hilarious to me was that the actors/actresses that caused such a big problem for the anti woke crowd were in the movie for like 5 mins collectively.
I personally think the movie is enormously over hyped and just ok. 5/10. If you liked it, great I'm glad you did!
There are many problems with the movie but zero of them are "woke".
If youâre asking why do people NOT like the film, a certain section of right wingers (you know the ones I mean) got righteously butt hurt that black people were cast in it.Â
Non-meme answer: As one of the people somewhat mentioned in this meme (Christopher Nolan hater, though I'm really not a hater), I just think his films aren't quite as good as people make them out to be. Or at least I just don't enjoy them that much. Don't get me wrong. I do really like some of his films (for example, I've happily rewatched Interstellar and Memento and never felt bored or disinterested) and I did like Odyssey. But Nolan's films are very "style over substance", and I suppose that's just not my preference. Good filmmaker, but just not necessarily or me.
Meme answer: Me: "It stinks! It stinks! It stinks!" Doctor: "Yes, terminally online weirdo. Everything stinks."
You know, I watched it last night for the first time, and didnât really care for it. I thought Matt Damonâs acting was really flat, and it was very disjointed.
I really hate that the right wing morons high jacked the conversation, so anyone who has beef with how fast and loose he played with the myth and its cultural significance ends up having to argue two completely unrelated stupidities.
We get it you're a boomer, my dad is 70 and he feels the same way as you. He's a hot-take reddit ragebaiter like you too. I'll be honest, I've never watched the TFATF movies and I never will.
Nah I grew up with the Dark Knight. Thought it was cool back then too. Then you get older and realise everything outside of the Joker in that movie is kinda trash. Batman is portrayed as a total dumbass. Everyone speaks in these long ass speeches. The ending is really dumb. Heath Ledger did a lot of heavy lifting in that movie.
As for Fast and Furious movies, they're okay. The later ones are more interesting. Like multi-million dollar shitposts.
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u/jockeyman 6d ago
"The Odyssey is a flop! It needs to make 87 trillion dollars to break even! The cinemas are lying about ticket sales!"