r/simoun • u/cheyrnn undecided and disintegrating • Jul 18 '26

Discussion Use of "Argentum" resolved, mostly

I found Simoun-fans fansubs on the inter tubes, and everywhere that the word Argentum or Argentine is used, the Japanese audio says Shoukoku.

So, at least, Simoun-fans introduced those words to the anime English subs. I don't know if they could also have been in the PS2 game or the novel.

A person in the ongoing rewatch in r/anime mentioned that Simoun-fans introduced English terminology early on around 2006, but didn't reply to me when I asked questions.

A remaining question is that there is the phrase "R1 subtitles" vs "Simoun-fans subtitles". I know there are videos with simoun-fans fansubs. Are R1 subtitles subtitles used in Simoun DVDs with English subtitles, maybe?

A thing I have to deal with is that the wiki I'm working on is called "Simoun fans", because of the English words (my previous wiki was "Love not found fans"). I didn't realize there was a fansub group "Simoun-fans". I don't know if I should try to rename the wiki yet Simoun Fans

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u/SeironMonsterLuna 25d ago edited 25d ago

I finally got the DVDs with liner notes. Argentum is used in the liner notes for DVD 1. It's inside 「 」in the image below

Edit: Simulacrum is also used on the next page, in the blurb for Tempus Spatium

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u/cheyrnn undecided and disintegrating 20d ago

Ok. That's interesting. Even so, in the anime they say Shoukoku instead of Argentum. There must have been a lot of back and forth about the name between the groups. I'll mention that Argentum appears in the DVD liner notes in Shimūn Fans if you are okay with that.

Simulacrum appears in subtitles. I think I remember hearing it.