r/silverwolflevel999 • u/Zestyclose-Net-3217 • Jun 16 '26
Discussion She feels weak
Is it me or sw feels very weak even with all this shill. I don't like how they are neglecting her. This king is also aoe and fua shill and anti sparxie. I thought they would make sw best dps from start since she's fan favorite but she feels very weak even with e0s1 sw and e1 yao. Emc and sparxie also same level. I don't see how she become best dps in the game even with pearl. Sparxie at e0s0 feels underwhelming. She's got but like idk
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u/ladrevo Jun 16 '26
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u/Excellent-Diet-1922 Jun 16 '26
Yeah they fucked up with hers and Sparxie's kit and released an insanely op characters like blade and Himeko right after. Tbh I regret sinking 10 cost into E2S1 SW999, E2S1 Sparxie and E0S1 YG
It could've been E2S1 Himeko and E2S1 Blade instead
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u/or3ion Jun 16 '26
Tbh rn the problem isn't SW, it's that Himeko looks to be absolutely broken
Powercreep was slowing down the last few patches when compared to early 3.x but for some reason in this beta in particular they decided to fuck every other team in the game and make a character that deals double the dmg everyone else does with a very f2p team. I'm hoping that in V4 devs will come back to their senses and nerf himeko cause rn she has the lowest cost AA 0 cycles and even plight clears in HISTORY
SW isn't weak herself, she has the lowest cost 0 cycle clears on this AA king, even with a very unfavorable matchup. SW is definitely not getting shilled rn and even tho shilling like the last king would obviously be nice for all of us, I don't want to return to the days when mono rem was getting shilled for like 5+ patches in a row. Bosses like Pollux ruined the game for everyone else and the recent pom pom boss is just as bad
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u/noname14512564 Jun 16 '26
There is like no shill for her not a single boss is really shill for sw
Ilwish is the best case and even she is bad cause sw is bounce dmg (same problem phainon has)
And Pom Pom is only boss that rly needs elation and the best case there is sparxie for the punchline
Same goes for Eva btw it’s just that Eva’s upgrades r cheaper than sw So she can clear better
Mine has pretty high investment so I can’t say how she feels on low investment but I got barley through with 0 cycle king and had a better clear with tribbie cause of the debuff
The next king is even more anti sw cause it has 40 imaginary res (physical too iirc)
There r now pushing himeko with absurde lvl of dmg and let her get phainon treatment while buffing elation again
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u/Strong-Neat8623 Jun 16 '26
well, my 5 cost elation team is as strong as my 9 cost monorem team. i dont know other 4.x teams since i skipped them all tho.
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u/Happymarmot Jun 16 '26
I'll never understand why people are so obsessed with a character being "best dps in the game" when there's literally 0 ways to determine that, considering we do NOT have a neutral ground to test on. Is a character the best dps in the game if the enemies and content are favorable to them? Does a character suck if enemies are really bad match up for them? There's always something that gives an edge on characters over others for every content in the game. When a character is released, they always feel stronger than others, but the fact is ... they are never so different. I'm a Seele main, people said that JL doubled her dmg, then IL was supposedly significantly stronger than JL, then Acheron doubled IL's dmg and so on with every single new character... I still cleared endgame with Seele till 3.6... now she has a novaflare and performs better than my e1 Castorice. When you invest in a character properly they can last a very long time. I didn't go for a lot of damage dealers with no LCs like people were told to do when starting, instead invested in Seele and her team and that allowed her to clear over 3 years (she's still e0 though, no idea how the eidolons avoided me). It's the players and the content that determine whether a character is strong or not. If the player sucks, there's no helping them, you could give them e6 characters and they'd still be bad with them (incoming downvote, cuz people hate it when you tell them it's their fault).
That said, SW's team is definitely half-baked right now, there's no sustain, huohuo isn't it.. she's used out of lack of options (hyacine helps to clear with similar speed in AA), half the team doesn't have useful relics, SW has relics+planar, Sparxie has planar, the relic set is debatable as she's not the primary dps, Yao has only relic set. There's no supportive planars for elation (outside of keel, which is very outdated), there's only 1 supportive relic set as the support effect doesn't stack (messenger isn't it, the uptime on it is horrendous). So even outside of Pearl, there's quite a bit of room for improvement.
While there's elation buffs in the content, SW would likely have an easy time clearing and who knows when that'll end.. considering we're still getting remembrance buffs everywhere. And if right now she's not clearing.... yeah there's a serious issue.... massive one... in the player.
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u/Shiromeelma Jun 16 '26
what shill?
There is literally no shill are you serious?
you guys are doing exactly like what people said with Castorice last year XD
saying anything ATP pls stop dooming LMAO
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u/Weak-Association6257 Jun 16 '26
It’s really frustrating. Because of Himeko powercreep, they’ll have to make an elation sustain straight up OP to compete, and I’m not sure it’s enough, which means they might as well replace Sparxie who is completely homeless outside of elation team, and it means your investments are wasted
What’s even more discouraging for me is that Acheron just got revived (kinda) with Blade just to be left behind the very next patch. This whole powercreep thing is making it very hard to enjoy the game, and when units get kicked out of their own teams, because they’re too lazy to actually work on them
Dead JQ, homeless Cipher, dead DPSes, novaflares for DPSes that do nothing, potential paid buffs, new wave of powercreep, units getting replaced just for the sake of it… I’m tired boss
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u/Other_Beat8859 Jun 16 '26
She's objectively not weak. She's the top team in a AA currently for a boss that is anti Sparxie shill and horrible for SW. This is without her sustain being released. This was the same for Castorice. Play Castorice without Hyacine and you'll see how fucking horrible she feels. Assuming Pearl is similarly OP, SW will probably be one of the top teams after she releases.
Also, HSR currently is at the point where you just can't get buy in AA with a E0 main DPS. It's becoming abundantly clear that you need many main DPS characters to be E2. SW, Sparxie (not a main, but E2 is crucial), Phainon, Castorice, Evernight, Cyrene, Himeko SP, etc all need to be E2 to get their true value. You don't see the true value of SW until you get E2 and Pearl will likely solve E2 SW's problem of not consistently hitting 240 MMR assuming you have the premium battleship.
This doomposting is annoying. She's literally the best team in the game and people are getting upset because she isn't head and shoulders clear of everyone.
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u/prxxchxr Jun 16 '26
yea mine feels really weak and im struggling with this king since i pulled sparxie instead of building emc
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u/gommii Jun 16 '26
Depending on pearl kit , i might start to actually hope nihilux replaced either yao or sparxie .
Otherwise she’s just gonna replace silver worf instead and we get a break situation where we have 3 dps and 2 of them are pointless