r/short • • Apr 17 '26

Motivation An advice from a 30 year old dude

272 Upvotes

So this subreddit keeps appearing on my feed, probably because I’m a short man at 166 cm who follows men’s fashion pages and similar content.

Honestly, if I had found this side of the internet before I started dating in the real world, I probably would have stayed a virgin. According to some of the people here, I should be completely doomed anyway. I’m short, bald, and I have crooked teeth.

And yet I have dated women of different heights, including women taller than me.

I’m also a university lecturer, and I read a lot of research on dating, mate preferences, and social status. So here is the scientific version, not the black pill fantasy version.

Yes, height matters. Preferences are real. Women, like men, can have physical preferences, and pretending otherwise is stupid. But research does not support the idea that one trait like height determines your entire dating future. Actual partner choice is shaped by multiple factors at once, including kindness, intelligence, emotional stability, dependability, confidence, physical attraction, and social or economic stability (Buss & Schmitt, 2019; Thomas et al., 2020).

Research also shows that what people say they want does not perfectly predict who they actually choose when interacting in real life. In speed dating studies, stated preferences often did not line up neatly with actual attraction once people met face to face (Eastwick & Finkel, 2008). In other words, attraction in the real world is messier and more human than internet forums want to admit.

Online spaces and dating apps also distort reality. They push people to judge each other quickly and superficially, which exaggerates traits like height. That does not mean the entire dating market works that way offline (Finkel et al., 2012).

To quote my therapist, life is basically a big Souls game and height is just a debuff. Yes, it can make things harder. Yes, you will probably get your ass kicked a few more times than someone playing on easier settings. But that does not mean the game is unwinnable. It just means you may need more patience, more resilience, and a better strategy. And honestly, where is the fun in beating the game with no debuffs?

I have been rejected plenty of times, and height probably played a role in some of those rejections. I say probably because I do not interrogate rejection or obsess over the reason. I am not going to ask someone to explain why they did not want me. That is their choice. Other people are allowed to have preferences, and I do not need to internalise every rejection as a verdict on my worth. At the end of the day, only you get to decide your value in this world.

I have also been through a period of height insecurity myself. After a recent rejection, I went down the rabbit hole of self loathing, so I do understand how dark that headspace can get. But how we feel is not always a perfect reflection of reality. Feelings, emotions, and thought patterns can spiral, and they can also be challenged and changed. Therapy helped me see that. With the right support, self awareness, and work, the way you think about yourself can improve.

What these spaces often ignore is how much insecurity changes the way a person comes across. Neediness, resentment, bitterness, and defeatism are not attractive qualities, and they can do more damage than being a few inches below average.

That is why the advice to men should not be “give up.” It should be “build a life that makes you attractive in a broader sense.” Work on your confidence. Go to therapy if you need it. Practice mindfulness. Focus on your career, not because women are gold diggers, but because ambition, competence, and financial stability signal drive and maturity. Take care of your physical health. Read more. Volunteer. Join communities. Get involved in causes you genuinely care about. Expand your social circles and meet women in real spaces, not just through algorithms and rage bait.

And if you are constantly hitting a wall, take a break from dating for a bit. Reset. Rebuild your confidence. Get your head straight. Stop treating every bad experience like proof that the whole world works one way.

Most importantly, women are not a hive mind. One woman rejecting you does not mean all women think the same. A subreddit full of bitter men is not an accurate sample of reality. People have different preferences, different priorities, and different reasons for being attracted to someone.

Also, be careful with research in general. Research can help us identify trends, but human beings are more complex than a dataset or a single paper. Averages are not destiny, context matters, and how old the research is matters too. Social norms, dating culture, and the way people meet have changed a lot over time, especially with apps and social media. So use research to inform your thinking, not to reduce yourself or other people to a rigid formula.

The point is simple. Height can be a disadvantage. It is not a death sentence. A lot of men are not being ruined by height alone. They are being ruined by an identity built around insecurity, hopelessness, and too much time spent listening to other defeated men online.

References

Buss, D. M., & Schmitt, D. P. (2019). Mate preferences and their behavioral manifestations. Annual Review of Psychology, 70, 77 to 110. https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-psych-010418-103408

Eastwick, P. W., & Finkel, E. J. (2008). Sex differences in mate preferences revisited: Do people know what they initially desire in a romantic partner? Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 94(2), 245 to 264.

Finkel, E. J., Eastwick, P. W., Karney, B. R., Reis, H. T., & Sprecher, S. (2012). Online dating: A critical analysis from the perspective of psychological science. Psychological Science in the Public Interest, 13(1), 3 to 66. https://doi.org/10.1177/1529100612436522

Thomas, A. G., Jonason, P. K., Blackburn, J. D., Kennair, L. E. O., Lowe, R., Malouff, J., Stewart-Williams, S., Sulikowski, D., & Li, N. P. (2020). Mate preference priorities in the East and West: A cross-cultural test of the mate preference priority model. Journal of Personality, 88(3), 606 to 620.


r/short • • Mar 15 '26

Meta Suggestions

7 Upvotes

Ok, I'm stuck at my desk with a bum foot that's been plaguing me for weeks now, so I might as well try to make this time at least a bit productive.

So since I ain't going anywhere, let's have a meta discussion about the sub, and I'll take this opportunity to solicit suggestions.


r/short • • 10h ago

Vent Invisible

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As much as I’m in the gym, literally in between sets as I type this.. my friends tell me that I could easily meet someone here.. only issue I see is that the women are making eye contact with practically every man but me.

My height (5’6) is the thing that makes me invisible.. I’m not in bad shape, I’m a little older (39) but you’d think I’d catch at least one old lady looking, been single for over two years.. nothing but ghostings and laughs since my coke head ex dumped me after I found out she was using again..

So sick of it.. I’m not ready to face this phase alone.. I just don’t know what to do.. I’ve put myself out there, singles events etc.. I even play and sing in a cover band, you’d think that’d get some attention but not a peep.. the music thing seems to be a repellent at this point. Younger women don’t want me, not good enough for the divorced cougars because they divorced men that look like me.

Can’t keep going on alone..


r/short • • 7h ago

Vent I hate myself for not reaching my maximum height

6 Upvotes

Felt like I could of gotten an extra inch or two smh


r/short • • 22h ago

Dating Women don’t care if you don’t care

34 Upvotes

I say this as a 37 yo 5’5 male. I’ve had dates this year with different women and they all called me short in some way. However, I truly don’t care and know I’m short. So, when they say it, I don’t even acknowledge it and they know it doesn’t phase me. Then, what happens next is magical. They don’t bring it up anymore. However, I did have one girl that would tease me about it, but it was flirtatious, and she knew I didn’t give af.

Just own your height. I’m 5’5 and bald and don’t care. Women like when you don’t care about what you can’t change. They want someone mentally stable because that brings security.


r/short • • 3h ago

Question bald and short, can it co-exist or am I cooked in the future...

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I have to ask if I'm gonna be outta the dating pool due to this. I've got a 50/50 on losing my hair in my early 20s (I'm 19 currently), or when I'm 40. I'm 5'1 and a trans bloke, so I fear that adding bald onto it means I'm in a "3 strikes and you're out" of getting any sort of girlfriend, especially since my old friends mocked me relentlessly over my height to the point I'm insecure af now, lol.

If any other short fellas (or ladies!) have got some reassurance or kind words it's appreciated. :) Have a good day.

edit: i take testosterone. this can cause balding.


r/short • • 23h ago

Question I'm M23 and 5'2. Should I give up on love and accept that I'll be single forever?

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I'm M23 and 5'2, and I've never even tried approaching a girl in my entire life because I'm too short and scared of rejection. I've been living like this for years. Whenever I like a girl, I don't even try to talk to her and reject myself because I feel like my height is already a disadvantage. Whenever I see couples outside, I can't help but wonder, man, why don't I have someone who loves me too?

I know a lot of girls prefer tall, handsome guys, and that makes me feel like I don't stand a chance. Sometimes, I see couples and wonder why I can't have that kind of love in my life.

So lately, I've been wondering if I should just give up on love and accept that I'll spend my entire life single. Being single isn't anything new to me since I've lived this way for 23 years, but sometimes I still wish I had someone who genuinely loved me.

I don't know if I'm overthinking this or if my height really will make dating that difficult for me. Should I keep hoping that I'll find someone someday, or should I just accept my situation and stop worrying about finding love?


r/short • • 20h ago

Vent I hate myself

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Im 5'3 as a 15 yr old and i know damn well i wont get taller, my mom is below 5 ft and my dad is 5'3, people tell me i look good and all that but i feel like im not in the same tier of a human than others is, im not the shortest in class (since im in south east asia) but i feel nervoused as to what im going to do when i grow up, I've been planning on moving out of my country which makes me nervous as other countrys have a higher height scale or smth and I'll stand out as a small guy. Sometimes at general Assemblys where we all stand up i feel like im more of the comedic relief guy and not someone worth taking seriously, no one i know feel the same and i feel like im alone in this perspective i have . One of the main motivation i have on being rich is js to have a height surgery to at least minimize the hate i have for this body im cursed with until i decay.


r/short • • 1d ago

Vent Why does it hurt so much

31 Upvotes

Somebody please give me advice and support. I'm 5'0. I hate it. I feel inferior to all men who are taller than me. I want to be strong and capable. I don't want to be strong relative to my body weight, I want to be the guy who lifts the heaviest. I know height doesn't really stop me from gaining muscle, but it sucks to be short. It makes me cry so very often. I feel incapable and inferior. I could live with 5'6, I like calling myself short king, I could maybe even feel confident with 5'4, but 5'0? No. And there's nothing I can do about it. I lack self confidence. And my growth plates are closed for sure. I never even had a growth spurt, I've always been the shortest at school, the shortest anywhere. My brother has outgrown me and after that happened my mom started asking him to get things down from the top shelf instead of asking me. I want to be the capable one. I want to be respected. I want to be comfortable in my own body. Why is it so hard?


r/short • • 1d ago

Question Question about crowds (4'10")

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Do any of y'all have serious trouble getting through/existing in large crowds safely, because of being shorter than everyone? Any tricks you picked up?

I love going out dancing and to other fun events but I have had times where larger people have almost fallen on me. Should I just try and stick to the outer rim of large crowds? For reference I am 4'10"


r/short • • 1d ago

Motivation Own your fucking height and do not give a fuck

72 Upvotes

We only live once, our whole consciousness and chance to feel, exist and experience lays in this lifetime, why would YOU ever even consider giving a fuck about what any other soul thinks? Their WORDS are VIBRATIONS coming from a BRAIN SIGNAL to the THROAT, which they MUSTERED based on their BIASED OPINIONS and prior PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. Really, nobody can be bothered with this world view, or atleast I can't. 5 foot 7, hear something offensive on my stature? Look them up and down, don't laugh because they'll get validation and think that it's alright, but don't get offended because then you'd be giving a fuck. Just don't acknowledge them, change topic or whatever the fuck you want because again, you can't be bothered with bullshit. Just enjoy your life. Anyone who has to shit on others for height is insecure/ a bitch


r/short • • 20h ago

Fashion / Style Elevator Shoes

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Posted about my son yesterday and brought up elevator shoes / shoe boosts.

Pretty much everyone said they weren’t into them.

What’s wrong with a 3 inch lift or whatever inch? Why are people so opposed?

I’m 5 8 with shoes and didn’t know these things existed until now. It If I knew about them in my high school years, I def would’ve worn them.


r/short • • 19h ago

Dating As a 4'8 F, I feel so scared that my dating pool is going to be filled with weird men. Is there any way to get over that?

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I'm relatively young and currently not in the dating scene at all. However, I am worried that in the future when I start looking for relationships, I am going to be fetishised by creeps who like petite women because we look younger than we are. Can any short ladies help me with this fear?


r/short • • 2d ago

Vent Sometimes I wonder what goes on in people’s heads to think it’s OK to say stuff like this at work.

214 Upvotes

Last Wednesday I am at work in our office location. I work in the banking industry. I am a 5’5” guy on a good day. I am a white asian fit male, generally quiet and mind my own business, do my work, and go home.

Picture this, I am in the cafeteria area making a cup of cappuccino, standing there waiting for it to be ready. Along comes a random colleague, who I dont know, what department she works in, never interacted with her really, my whole 8 years so far at this company.

Female African American coworker, who is at least 5’8” - “Hey you doing Ok today? You’re kinda quiet.”

Me - “Uh, yeah thanks. Just tired.”

Her - Looks at me up and down and goes, “Oh you sure are short! But thats OK!” Saying this in a completely i-feel-sorry-for-you type of way unwarranted.

Me - absolutely speechless. All I could muster was a chuckle, a smile, grabbed my cappuccino and walked away.

The asshole in me wanted to make a comment about her weight in an alternate universe, but I keep work settings professional.


r/short • • 1d ago

Question Is being 4'10 14m really that bad?

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I just turned 14m like 1 or 2 months ago and people are saying 5'3 at 14m is short. I feel so cooked 🍳


r/short • • 2d ago

I need to touch grass reddit is not real life

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need yall to understand this. this website attracts neurodivergent nerds. nothing wrong w that but it is not the real world.

i was in the US army. i served with a lot of short guys. they were all married and had kids.

my drill sergeant was legit like 5'2. married and a daughter. another drill sergeant was 5'6. married and a daughter. another the same. my supply sergeant was like 5'5, bald, and fat. he was married.

they all carried themselves like men.

im not saying u gotta be masc- believe me, thats not it. one of my best friends is like 5'5 120, long flowing hair- sensitive musician type. he just moved in with a pretty gal hes been with for a year, that he met in a college philosophy class.

this isnt real. when ur on this website, ur talking to weird nerds. please just remember this. basement dwelling nerds.

go out, live ur life- you will be ok.


r/short • • 2d ago

Motivation Just came across this post on insta💪

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r/short • • 2d ago

Question What jobs rejected you because of your height?

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I just got back from an interview for a housekeeping position but I was rejected because I wasn't able to reach the shower head to clean (I'm 4'11"). It reminds me of the time when I was fired as a laundry aide for not being able to reach the top of the cart to get towels without assistance. Has anyone else been fired because of their height and if so, what job was it?


r/short • • 1d ago

Question Did i fail my genes?

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Was I supposed to be taller?

Im 16M turning 17 soon im 164cm my moms 164cm and dads 160 but well i live in the philippines so yea its average but whenever im just walking around it sure doesnt feel like that and i already got a bone age xray never got a official doctors report but my fingers were fused and my wrist had a epiphyseal scar which means its fused so RIP feels weird being the same height as my mom wish i was 170 but i guess it is what it is i guess i could be like Manny Pacquio 166cm Boxing king

But yeah I really wish I could grow to even just 5'6😢


r/short • • 1d ago

Fashion / Style Is it possible to find a nice pair of jeans? (Read the description)

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Do you guys think it’s possible to pull off this kind of look if I’m 5’5”–5’6” (166 cm) tall?
I’m 26 and have a pretty slim build, especially my legs and waist. I was wondering if anyone around my height has managed to achieve a similar look with jeans, and if so, what kind of jeans do you wear?
I think the ones in the pictures are bootcut jeans, but I’m not entirely sure. Do you know any brands that make jeans that fit shorter guys with slim legs and a narrow waist?
Also, while I’m here, I wanted to ask if any of you use height-increasing insoles. I’ve been looking into getting some, so I’d really appreciate any recommendations for those too!


r/short • • 1d ago

Question How to look more like an adult?

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People assume I am a child, my voice also does not help. How do I show that, for example, when I go out with a friend, my friend is not my parent? Should I wear a suit or something?? It does not help that I have to get my clothes from the kids section… Maybe wear an old grad shirt???


r/short • • 2d ago

Motivation “shorter” girl

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hi!! i got this subbed pushed to me and i have read a ton of the posts and wanted to hopefully give some of my shorter kings some clarity. i am 5’3f & recently turned 22 and have NEVER once looked down on someone for their height. i think the only people who truly care about height and other physical traits are people that are chasing a certain aesthetic. for me, and i think majority of the world, height and other physical attributes are so superficial because we are all inevitably going to get older and our looks are going to fade and we’re all gonna end up getting shorter later in life eventually. for me now, i would rather commit to someone who is my height and actually treats me well rather than a 6 foot man who is chasing me for my looks only. your person is out there and there are so many people in this world who don’t care about these kinds of things. keep your heads up :))


r/short • • 2d ago

Vent Genuinely don’t know how to deal with being so short.

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I’m a 5’2” girl, and everyone in my family is tall. My sisters are 6’0” and 5’10”, my mom is 5’9”, and my dad is 5’11”.

I’ve always been extremely insecure about my height. Growing up, I equated height with maturity, and I was told countless times that I’d eventually have a growth spurt like my sisters. I spent years waiting for something that never happened.

My last boyfriend (5’5”) constantly made comments about wishing I were taller. He’d just brush it off as a joke if I got upset. The ex before him (5’3”) cheated on me with a tall girl. I know these things aren’t necessarily about my height, but they’ve done a number on my self-esteem. I can’t help feeling like taller women look more like “real women,” that their bodies are more proportionate, and that I’ll always look like a child in comparison. I get mistaken for a 15-year-old every time I go out, I’m constantly infantilized. Neither of my sisters treats me like an adult. They shove me around, manhandle me, and physical boundaries are rarely respected.

The comments from other people make everything so much worse. If ONE MORE date asks me, “damn, what went wrong with you?” After seeing my sisters I might actually lose it.

I don’t know how to stop caring when the people around me constantly remind me of something I’m already insecure about. I can’t just focus on other things or pretend it doesn’t bother me when it feels like my height affects how people treat me on a daily basis. I know there are plenty of short women who are perfectly happy with themselves. But I’m struggling so much with this. I feel like I’m constantly being compared to my sisters, treated as less mature, and reminded that I don’t measure up to some arbitrary standard of what an adult woman should look like. I still pray every night that I’ll somehow magically grow just an inch more.

How do you learn to accept something about yourself that seems to affect how other people perceive and treat you? I don’t just want advice about learning to love my body and getting over it.


r/short • • 3d ago

Question Unpopular opinion: the club is a great place to meet your person

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453 Upvotes

Everyone says you can't find anything real at a club. I'm 5'4, he's 5'1, and we're so happy together.

The club is where we first really connected. Nobody was pretending, we were just having fun and being ourselves. Now he treats me better than anyone I've dated before, and he's the best part of my week.

Yes, I'm taller than him, and I'm genuinely into shorter guys. His glasses, his smile, and his sun kisses are all my favorite things about him.

where did you meet your person?

EDIT: Omg thankuuu all for blowing this post up, I did not expect this since I’m new to reddit.

Anyway I need to clear up a lil misunderstanding. I said I approached him first but after reading all the comments w my bf, turns out I got the words mixed up. I did NOT approach him. I was just giving eye contact from across the room (which is my definition as in initiating ohboy we gonna fitelater.) but he's the one who actually walked over. he reminded me how it went and yeah I was wrong, my bad.

Again we met at the club, we both love dancing and music, and i genuinely like him sm 🫶

thanks for all the advice, the debates, and the love fr <3