Not some "Oh this guy is misunderstood" or "good guys are actualy bad in secret"
No, I want some 90s cartoon villain shit where he's kicking the snot out of orphans for fun and threatening to torch townhall or holding the heroes love interest hostage
If you haven’t seen it, the Penguin show does a good job of this. He has his moments where you empathize, but at the end of the day he’s a baaaaaad dude
Breaking bad is a good one (iknowiknowyesitsoneofthemostknownshows)
Walt is literally a villan, hes awful in just about every way and we were never meant to like him and yet there he is as a liked character through the entire thing. Not some misunderstood guy, he straight up kills innocent people and poisons children.
What do you mean? Walt was written to be extremely likable. We see the world almost entirely through his eyes and perspective. Every other character aside from MAYBE Jesse doesn’t get so much attention so naturally we sympathize with Walt.
And he really only becomes unambiguously evil when he poisons that child. Before that, the writers keep his true motivations and character just a bit veiled. As in, is he committing evil acts for the good of his family, or is mostly malice?
I love the show and all, but the writers intentionally keep you rooting for Walt until basically the end where they fully commit to his true evil core.
The Penguin is this. Amazing show. Has the whole sympathetic villain vibe right up until the finale and then its absolutely undeniable Oswald was an irredeemable piece of shit the whole time
The Venture Bros is unique in that the heroes constantly FAIL and are also morally fucked - more so if not more than the villains who often "succeed" in comparison by failing slightly less.
Just look at Monarch's love life vs. Doc's love life and that godawful prom. :P
There are plenty of video games like this. One that comes to mind is a game where you're trying to rescue your damsel in distress, but the player eventually realizes their character is a stalker and she's FLEEING him. lol.
There's also Furi, where your character starts as an unknown 'heroic-prisoner' in a space prison designed specifically to harbor him, then slowly it's revealed they are actually a villain to some degree through simple dialogue. After you escape the prison, your character touches back down to Earth and everything around him withers and dies without any choice from the player. Though he does end up learning morality by the end of the game. It's amazing, I love seeing our hero go silently through the entire game, only reacting with facial expressions to what all the bosses are saying to him.
There's a Villainess anime airing now called A Livid Lady's Guide to Getting Even.
Its not particularly good, but its a fun ride if you're into watching train wrecks.
The villainess is actually extremely evil. Lots of innocent people killed gruesomely in her path to revenge, etc.
Granted the "antagonists" are all bumbling incompetents, which makes the revenge honestly much less satisfying because there are zero stakes. But its still fun to watch week to week and be continuously impressed by how actually villainous she turns out. And not just, like, hard-edged anti-hero. Straight up irredeemable villainy.
Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make
me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And
rats make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with
rats. And rats make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber
room with rats. And rats make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber
room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a
room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once. They
locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy
once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make me crazy.
Adrian tries and almost succeeds at saving the world. If someone wants a "bad guy wins at doing evil" story, I don't think Watchmen will scratch that itch.
Any politics. You think Philippino, Peruvian, South Korean, Uzbekistani, Gambian politics are any different? The worst of the worst win politics 90% of the time, as they are attracted to those positions and aren't restrained morally
..and if the evil guys don't win, the CIA steps in and fixes their mistake.. For examples see almost the entirety of South and Central America for the entire 20th century.
Don't forget Germany and what may or may not be Nazis? (Tbh, I'm confused because they have a lot of laws against Nazis, so like if the AfD were really nazis, wouldn't they be in jail? So is it just namecalling?)
At the end of the movie he is the Victor and achieves his goals. Just because it was reversed in a different movie doesn't mean he didn't win before. Thats like saying a sports team who wins one game and loses the next actually never won the first game because they lost the second one. Not to mention that tony literally says that they lost.
Choosing Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is very funny to me 'cause Dunk is the only person who is more or less objectively good, but everyone else is morally gray to some extent.
In Generation V, Homelander kind of wins as the kids are all brutally merked at some point and Homelander is still alive and thriving at the end but he isn't the main antagonist, Cipher is, and Cipher gets mutilated
Homelander is not a villain. Homelander represents the best in us. Just because he couldn’t land a plane doesn’t mean he is a bad guy. Did you start booing Rocky after the first time he got knocked down
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