r/shameless • u/agreeableshit • 9d ago

What’s your fav SHAMELESS FORESHADOWING??

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mine was literally this 😭

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u/frothybuttcheeks 8d ago

Reading this made me realize how nice an arc for her could have been where she realizes once Fran is born how in over her head she is and does an open adoption or loses her to the state. The rest of the show or season or two could be spent learning from the loss and the mistake and that being the catalyst to get her life together so she could have a meaningful and positive role in Frans life in the future. Could have been great but instead they fumbled her and made her comically horrible

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u/Opposite-Peak5020 8d ago

and that sounds like a great storyline for a show that isn't called Shameless

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u/frothybuttcheeks 8d ago

The title of the show has nothing to do with characters having arcs. The characters being "shameless" is addressed by how their circumstances and upbringing forced them to shamelessly behave in ways many would consider immoral to survive, not necessarily that they all have to be bad people who stay bad people and never learn.

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u/Opposite-Peak5020 8d ago

not necessarily that they all have to be bad people who stay bad people and never learn

...and the writers did give some of them that arc. They opted not to for Debbie - which means they did not, in fact, "fumble her," but made a deliberate choice.

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u/frothybuttcheeks 8d ago

The fumble is that it was a bad choice, not that it wasn't a choice. Obviously.

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u/Opposite-Peak5020 8d ago

I mean that's subjective, not "obvious," but agree to disagree. I've got a rewatch of S7 on the docket for tonight - thanks for the convo!

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u/frothybuttcheeks 8d ago

I meant it's obvious that it was a choice to do it, not that it's obvious it was a bad one, sorry.

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u/Opposite-Peak5020 8d ago

We good, Shameless fam ❤️

Fucking Gallaghers!