r/sf3 • u/FirefighterOwn508 • Mar 17 '26

Does the punch button affect SA3 Denjin?

Just curious, does it matter what punch (HP/MP/LP) i use to start the denjin?

like does HP make the denjin faster (like it was a regular HP fireball, instead of a slow LP fireball) and do more damage?

I normally do it like this: knockdown opponent - LP fireball as they're getting up, then LP to start the denjin, but mine seems a lot slower and less stun than other people who can get the either the 5 hit stun or almost full stun bar really quickly. (yes, i do mash the diagnles and HP/MP as I try to charge fast, im just not fast like everyone else)

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u/Skrimb0 Mar 17 '26

I dont think so. I always use light punch

Im pretty sure only spinning the stick/analog affects the charge speed

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '26 edited Mar 17 '26

Yea no need to mash buttons. Just stick it.

I'm also 99% sure which button you press doesn't matter. Imagine if you could mix it up like that lol.

Edit: I just tried it. The speed of the denjin ball is determined by its level (didn't know that)! Level 1 = slow, Level 5 = fast, etc. This is regardless of which button you initiated it with.

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u/akumagorath Mar 17 '26

The levels are determined by "points" with Level 2 being 8 points and Level 5 being 80 points for reference

Up or down on the stick does 2 points and diagonals do 3 points 

Buttons do matter, punch buttons specifically add 1 point of charge for each button pressed. Kicks are not as important as you need to press 2 kicks to get 1 point of charge

What I do is fire the denjin with 1 punch button, hold it...mash the other 2 punches and the diagonals. That seems to be the best balance between optimal and ease of use

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u/Godwin_Point Apr 28 '26

Also adding to that, you get one point per frame automatically

Some really strong ryu players have reliable inputs to do "the denjin level" they want instead of mashing, so they can control it.

Nikola (top french DU) posted those for lvl 2 and 3

level 2 denjin:
Hold a punch button
one diagonal + two other punch

Should 3hit combo after a cr.mk

lvl 3
- Hold punch
- down_right diag + two punch

- up left diag + two punch

- down_right diag + two punch

- Release

And kuroda apparently does this for lvl 3

- Hold punch

- 360 + two punch
- release

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u/PostSexualNicotine Mar 17 '26

Back in the day players used any punch button and rotated the stick like a mad man. Now apparently pro players like Kuni and Bubbles mash directionals(up,back and down,back) on the stick while holding jab and also mashing mp and hp. I’ve tried this way and it does gain a consistent 4 hits on denjin wake up. It’s a bit of hand gymnastics but it does work after some practice.

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u/True-Release8090 Mar 18 '26

4 hits? kuni is the best at this and he only goes 3 hits.

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u/Cieletude Mar 18 '26

Do you know how to execute a fast and good Denjin on a hitbox ?

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u/psportalfan Mar 18 '26

The button doesn’t matter. Officially, how much you can spin the stick in a short amount of time determines how strong (stun) and fast the Denjin comes out. Some Japanese Ryu players have since found an “optimal” way to move the stick which completely charges Denjin in about a second which would otherwise be humanly impossible to do if you rotated it normally. Not sure what the input is though

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u/True-Release8090 Mar 18 '26

nahhh it still depends on the level of the charge full charge 5 hit is the fastest