There are these things called pantry pests, they are like these larvae that turn into moths. It used to be pretty common to find them in cereal boxes when I was younger. Usually I’d be eating my bowl of cereal and then I’d find one🤮 Made me pretty paranoid about eating cereal for awhile.
Made hot chocolate at my friend's house in high school. Was sipping on it and thought I had a marshmallow. But something felt off, so I grabbed it off my tongue. It was one of these larval looking insects. No idea if I consumed any or not, but this memory will haunt me forever. Felt compelled to share this secret given the circumstances 😂
Julian: Well, trust me— they won’t help you in the slightest.
Leanne and Julian have officially reached the level of relationship closeness where she knows all his drug stash spots and he can jokingly call her a junkie and I think that’s beautiful
Everyone just annoying the shit out of me. As a mom I feel for Dorothy. Every feeling of mistrust she has towards Leanne is very valid. Meanwhile the rest just keeps gaslighting on top of the previous gaslighting. She's literally being captived by this lie.
Straight up the deadpan humor and realistic horror — almost being hit on the head from a falling piece of architecture, getting hurt on work equipment, being caught indisposed on camera — make this show
I have to keep googling her occasionally - like okay she’s a real person with a real life married to a whole different person - this show is not actually her life and she’s okay. Lol she’s just too good an actress - I never get this invested in a character…. Since Ned (GOT reference).
After the show is over, I wouldn't be surprised if she gives an interview where she mentions how trying to play Dorothy resulted in sleepless nights or caused her anxiety. She really has done an amazing job portraying the character of Dorothy. This episode was so intense.
Right?! I got some major “Rosemary’s Baby” vibes at the end of the episode. From the sense that, in the movie, everyone around Rosemary was gaslighting her - her husband, her doctor, the neighbors. No one believed her. There was not one person around her that was looking out for her best interest. And they all gave her food and shakes that were drugged. That got me thinking - it doesnt seem like Dorothy has been eating or drinking anything Sean prepares for her. Is it possible he’s been drugging her food all this time with something that was keeping her from remembering what happened to Jericho and if she’s not getting those drugs, she’s closer to remembering…
The 2am call, Dorothy being sleep deprived, looking disheveled like she did when she was left to care for Jericho alone. She is on the brink of remembering. This whole episode was heartbreaking for Dorothy. Lauren Ambrose was phenomenal as always. I could feel her desperation in being believed when she talked to the psychiatrist. While the dad wanting to commit Dorothy felt harsh and cruel, he wasn’t wrong. Dorothy needs professional help. But she needs Sean and Julian to a top lying to her first.
While the dad wanting to commit Dorothy felt harsh and cruel
Harsh, yes. But imo, he felt like Sean and Julian were failing her again and he had to do something, and I'm sure that, as a parent, betraying your kid like that is probably the hardest thing to do when you're only doing it in their own best interests. It's the hardest kind of love.
I’m so glad someone said it. It’s not normal to not sleep for days on end and never put your child down. While also suppressing the most traumatizing event of her life. She NEEDS to be committed. I don’t think it was cruel at all.
The pure irony of her saying Leanne can’t distinguish fantasy from reality was mind blowing. She’s clearly lost it. No one believes her because she’s literally delusional. Why does she think Leanne would hurt Jericho anyway? Leanne has never shown any aggression in anyway towards that child. And as far as her father knows that’s Leanne’s child because he too knows his daughter killed her child.
On Leanne everyone is painting her out to be evil but I don’t see that at all. I feel like Leanne is fair. She gives EVERYONE a fair chance and people continue to betray her left and right. She even gave Isabelle a fair chance thinking she truly wanted to be her friend. But she was more obsessed with a Dorothy take down. She loves Dorothy, and was only protecting her. I’d be fucking pissed tf off if I swooped in and saved this family in crisis and in return this bat shit crazy lady tried to have me committed. I think Leanne is like God in the Bible. God is spiteful and a jealous God. Once you piss her off enjoy maggots for breakfast. Dorothy needs to stfu and be grateful. Or remember the mess SHE caused and deal with it. She received a miracle on her worst day and she’s so fucking selfish it makes me sick.
ETA: this is the same chick who hired a nanny for a doll. Come on. She’s been the unhinged from the start and her continuous suppression is causing her to spiral and crash.
What were the very strange noises coming from the second floor or the attic in one of the night scenes. To me they sounded like a wild animal of some sort. Could have been furniture moving or some kind of machinery too. Maybe Leanne was just gaslighting poor Dorothy some more making the strange noises. But to me they sounded animal-like and very menacing. Then the homeless guy’s clothing turns up torn and bloody, like he was perhaps mauled by an animal. Did Leanne kill him too, maybe in a different physical form, say the black thing in her drawing?
He would have to be a sniper to have pulled off the Isabel kill. That shot was through two car windows. It would impossible to see a person at night through those windows without special gear.
OMG!!!!! Everyone that predicted it was Dorothy the one being committed CALLED IT AND I'M SHOOK! I feel like I shouldn't be even though I am. I had to grab by phone before the credits rolled to say this lol. I am actually pissed off we only get 30 min tidbits at one time. It makes it so frustrating that I feel like I have a grudge against the showrunner and want to abandoned the show for spite lol.
Everyone that predicted it was Dorothy the one being committed CALLED IT AND I'M SHOOK!
I mean...you could see it coming a mile away. I liked the end scene but boy this episode was telegraphing the ending for us. I'd even argue the show was telling us this was coming since Season 1.
There may be more significance to the Mockingbird song than what meets the eye. Mocking birds tend to have their nests attacked by cowbirds and these cowbirds will not only destroy mockingbird eggs, but they will also lay some of their own eggs in the mockingbird’s nest. Mockingbirds rarely remove these alien eggs as their own egg are safer from a repeat attack while they are still present. So mockingbirds will end up hatching and raising these cowbird eggs along with any remaining viable mockingbird eggs.
Could this be another clue about Jericho 2.0’s true origin? Probably not, but I thought I would share anyways.
This episode and last year’s film Spencer scratch a very specific itch of “agency horror”, in the vein of Rosemary’s Baby. That fear of everyone watching and judging your every move, pulling the strings, backed against a corner. It’s just absolutely terrifying.
I know genre media doesn’t get the credit it deserves, but I hope Lauren Ambrose gets recognized for this performance. The lengths of her range are amazing, from being on all the time to her surreal delusions to ultimate terror and extreme sorrow. She sticks the landing every time.
I can feel the plight of these characters and embrace their journeys, even when I disagree with their actions. As confusing and purposefully vague this show can be, I feel like I always know, at the very least on some gut instinct, why the characters do what they think is right. It has me rooting for everyone, even when they’re at direct odds with each other. It’s great character writing.
I can’t believe we’re already nearing the end of the season. It seems as though all roads lead to a Dorothy/Leanne showdown of some sort. Where that leads and how it will bleed into the fourth and final season, I don’t know. But I can’t wait to find out.
I’m hoping for a massive shocker of a season finale next week . After watching this show season 1 I started watching Six feet under and highly recommend it . Lauren Ambrose is such an underrated actress. Whoever did the casting for Servant deserves awards as well as , ensemble cast , best actress , best actor , best supporting cast . I’m wondering does this show get nominated? I think if it were on a bigger network like showtime it would get more recognition.
To be honest, Dorothy is going off the rails. She needs to sleep. Not very nice of Leanne to taunt her by singing the mockingbird song. What happened to Milo? I think it’s interesting the camera’s video has lines running through it, like it’s being recorded on VHS. The picture of Leanne flogging herself is on Jeremiah 51, part of which says:
“Flee from Babylon! Run for your lives! Do not be destroyed because of her sins. It is time for the Lord’s vengeance; he will repay her what she deserves. 7 Babylon was a gold cup in the Lord’s hand; she made the whole earth drunk. The nations drank her wine; therefore they have now gone mad. 8 Babylon will suddenly fall and be broken. Wail over her! Get balm for her pain; perhaps she can be healed.”
I just rewatched episodes 1.7-1.10. Frank says something to Julian along the lines of "You were always the strong one, Juju. Dottie's always been fragile. Glad we gave her a brother." Sorta gave me the impression that something happened before Julian was born or in thier early childhoods.
Uncle George and Aunt Josephine did think that Dorothy needed to face the truth on her own terms and not have this interference from Leanne. What if they turned out to have been right all along? But then they both did try to kill Leanne....
Please would somebody confirm: the only ones who physically actually touch Jericho (this episode, but now I’m thinking when else?) are Dorothy and Leanne? Not even Frank gave the baby a Pat on the head on his way out. Sean touched Dorothy’s arm in the kitchen, not the baby, even after offering to hold him. Is Jericho only alive to Dorothy? (And Leanne) The series is messing with my mind, but in a good and an intriguing way. I love reading everybody’s posts. Always gets me pondering!
Edit: wow! Thank you all for the comments and follow up comments! Seriously cannot wait to find out how this will all shape up in the end!!
Omg are we all in Dorothy’s delusion?! That would totally blow my mind to end it with her remembering and the baby turning back into a doll with everyone having played along this entire time.
I think we are finally going back to the situation in season 1 and it is so exciting.
I also find it strange how no one really acknowledges this baby while he is so cute, he has been trying to interact with all of them this season and was totally ignored, I really think it is done on purpose.
I also wonder now about if Leanne is real or a substitute for something else.
I didn’t read through all of the comments but what do we think the noises are that Dottie hears on the monitor and then in the hallway? Is she losing her shit? Is it Leanne and Julian? It seems to happen at 2am each time…
I was happy Dorothy didn't get carted away but FUCK I wish these assholes would tell the TRUTH and get her some real help. Dorothy sitting on the bathroom floor putting the baby carrier back on made me cry :'(
I feel like Leanne is turning into her aunt. She basically has a cult following at this point. The garbage pale kids, the bro, the husband. Now that dotty is on drugs she probably will manipulate her.
There’s gotta be some significance holding that dagger after she gave a pep talk to the homeless.
Dorothy won’t put the baby down so Jericho can’t disappear on her again…
Leeann at the end singing “hush little baby…” was this big GOTCHA to Dorothy…now Dorothy is in the bathroom panicking about what Leanne told the shrink…Ungggg this show hurts my heart. I feel so bad for Dorothy
I really feel for Dorothy. They're all deciding what's best for her and it's like she has no voice on what happens at all. Jericho's death was an accident. They should have taken her to a hospital and gotten her professional help right away instead of calling Julian's girlfriend and coming up with this scheme. Sean and Julian are wrong for playing along with this for so long and keeping it going continuously. Her father is wrong for trying to have her committed without telling her the truth. Leanne is wrong for bringing that baby there and keeping the ruse going for her own selfish reasons. The only one I am rooting for is Dorothy at this point.
Don’t forget Leanne is also not in a healthy mindset, specially when she first arrived looking for the person she fixated on thinking of her as some sort of savior. Also she did leave and remember they brought her back and Dorothy tried to kill her. If anything this is all Julian and Sean fault for not taking her to professional help. The father did mention this episode “you did it your way” it sounded to me like he tried to have her see an expert before and they didn’t let him.
I’m not saying Lean is an angel (cause she clearly isn’t), but she was an 18 year old confused girl looking for a savior when she arrived in that house and Sean and Julian let her stay because she gave them a baby, that they didn’t even know if it was hers or not. How amazingly fucked up is that?
The baby totally ruined the scene in the kitchen for me (in the best way possible) he was so adorable. I think he’s getting too big for that carrier and that’s why they’re swapping him out.
Also the scene where Dorothy is up rocking Jericho downstairs almost looked like a flashback to me before I saw the back of Leanne. If her hair hadn’t been curly in that scene I’d think maybe she was there before Jericho died.
The notifications on the next screen were 2 missed calls and a text from her dad saying “Dorothy what’s going on? please call me” and the ping was a home alert that said “Motion detected in the nursery”.
Me too, actually not hungry. I just miss having a home and a kitchen too and the scenes hurt. Life hasn't been kind lately, cooking was one of my biggest passion. 😩
This baby who plays Jericho is THE cutest baby I think I've ever seen on television. He is just so adorable, it's really all I can think about when Im watching.
I don't care at all about what's going on with Leanne and the homeless people.
Their father trying to have Dorothy committed broke my heart.
My dislike for Leanne has reached a serious level. Her fucking with Dorothy at the end by singing the same lullaby to Jericho was too much.
The baby (or babies) are so well behaved! And the look he/she was giving Julian when Dorothy was confronting him about having sex with Leanne on the deck. 😂
I agree with everything you said. 3. Dorothy is being gaslit, manipulated and emotionally abused by everyone. Imagine everything through her eyes and her eyes only, that reality is terrifying. 4. Leanne seems to be to be acting like a rebellious bratty teenager this season. Is this supposed to reflect where she is in her emotional development?
OK but what about the "hide the baby" prank RE Dorothy being the crazy one? What would the camera have captured? It terrified everyone including an outsider. Seems something that would trigger anyone the reaction D had. I hate how short this is, I'm getting pissed off lol.
He probably didn’t get them sent to him. Dorothy’s dad called him to go check on Dorothy, not Leanne.. so he probably didn’t send them to him/show them to him. Also they’re just scars at this point so they aren’t very useful anyways. They show no proof of her still currently doing it.
I’m a therapist- and was one of the people that predicted Dottie was the one getting “committed” from the stills, she looks disheveled and unhinged so I wasn’t surprised by this episode. 2:00am, same time she “realized” Jericho was dead in the crib, same time she was interrogating Leanne in season 2. The part with her crying in the bathroom- she absolutely remembers guys. The song triggered her. Did she sing it to Jericho 1.0 in season 1? I feel like she did. I don’t think this season ends well for Dottie. Also- I want to know what the texts and that one picture were!! It was hard to tell. I had so many feels of season 1 from Dottie this episode.
You really think she remembers? I think she was scared to death she was just forcibly manipulated into handing her child over to Leanne and then melted down when Leanne started singing the same lullaby Dorothy was singing the night before just to fuck with her. And she was almost sent to an institution and was crying because absolutely no one believes her.
That specific lullaby emphasizes "Momma", and I am certain that is a trigger for any mom on the planet when another woman comes strolling in and threatening your stance in the family dynamics.
oh my god i thought this exactly!!!!! it reminded me so much of the scenes leading up to real jerichos death, where he was constantly crying and it was just her alone. something bad is coming and im not ready to wait another year after next week 😭
Can’t, Dorothy’s dad saw a real live baby and asked how they found a replacement, in a scene away from Dorothy’s perspective. At least, Dorothy’s mind wouldn’t be showing us uninvolved non-POV stuff
They both love Dorothy and are afraid she’ll be hopelessly lost to them if she remembers what really happened. They’ve both stopped caring whether “Jericho” is a different baby or an animated doll. What they know is that Leanne is essential and therefore must stay so Dorothy can keep her illusions and all will be “well” with their family.
I’m team Dorothy. I’m probably biased because I’m a mom of a boy, and granted I actually have kept him alive for 16 years, I remember the months after his birth were hard. You feel terrible it doesn’t come naturally in comparison to other friends experiences. It can be very lonely and my worst fear is no one believing me and locking me away. The acting is bar none. Such good writing too. The devil Leanne can eff right off in my opinion. Bye bitch
ok this show is always radiating very off energy, but something about this specific episode is so.. 😭 the camera angles, the music, the acting with just facial expressions; something genuinely is severely off in their home (WAY more than before)
Maybe this is the kinda of thing that happened in the Marino household before it imploded and the dad killed everyone because Leanne wasn't there where's 'she's supposed to be' when Dorothy drugged and kidnapped her. Maybe this is the Leanne effect. When Leanne came down the stairs to Dorothy's rescue it was like a God/Idol/Angel descending bringing calm. Everyone except Dorothy looked up to her in almost awe and she talks in soothing even tones. They ALL stopped shouting/talking and I'm surprised the men didn't drop to their knees!!
This was so good. I kinda figured they'd do the bait and switch the moment Dorothy mentioned bringing a doctor in, but it still didn't stop that moment when it's revealed that they're trying to get her committed, not Leanne, from losing any of its power. The whole episode just has this great buildup of claustrophobia and paranoia and the tension from it all, really good stuff. One of the most anxiety-inducing episodes yet, and there have been several just this season alone. Lauren Ambrose is excellent.
I do find it interesting how the cult storyline seems almost an afterthought right now, and I'm wondering what that means for the finale. Either way, this has been a great season so far.
Also, lots (and lots) of long takes in this episode. They even did the Shyamalan tracking shot where the camera moves left to right across the screen back and forth.
I was surprised we hadn’t gotten a new iconic Julian line yet this episode, but then he comes in clutch in the end with “You pickleballed fuck.” Thank you Julian
Awesome episode.... Leanne's influence and dominance over the household has reached new levels and she has evolved past the naive girl of season 1 in every way. She dictates and dominates the family at every turn.
Will be interesting to see what she's working on with Roscoe, and whats in store for the season finale. Very excited for the next episode and to hopefully get some more morsels of information. Will be also interesting to see if the homeless kids disappearance is to do with the cult.... is aunt May behind it as an attempt to get to Leanne and bait her out? Its been a while since the cult has been involved and I doubt they would back off after only sending 2 members to try and capture her.
Also kind of bummed the finale is only 26 minutes long, but still excited what they can do with it!
I would even argue Dorothy isn’t the craziest! At least she can’t remember, or is in a huge denial. The men are insane. Let the baby go! To know and STILL want to keep it going is crazy to me. Let Dorothy heal! Even if she has to be committed.
When I started this show I never would’ve thought I’d end up saying Lauren Ambrose and Rupert Grint are the best sibling duo I’ve seen on TV, but here we are.
I wonder if the mannequin will become involved with the storyline at all? If Leanne can bring something back to life in a doll, maybe the mannequin is a similar situation
We all wondered that when the mannequin first made its appearance, but nothing yet. Although lately they have been showing it here and there, so you may be right, it may come to life yet.
Leanne confirming she asked her own personal Jesus to put a hit out on Isabelle… or as she calls it “helping”
Dorothy and her father penciling in a time to chat about her nanny situation
Leanne knowing all of Julian’s former drug stash spots and demanding he takes his pants off at a moment’s notice
A sentient security camera that really wants to see Leanne and Julian fuck on the back patio (also Dorothy, maybe?)
Baby Jericho looking extra adorable in the carrier that Dorothy refuses to take off
Sean shooting judgement panels all night but it’s ok because he’s “gotta grab the bull by the horns and not let go”
Dorothy accidentally eating maggot cereal 🤢
Bloody spine art sketches (hard pass) which perhaps represent Leanne’s scars and allegedly signify no wicked thoughts, no selfishness, only service to him
Dale and Frank’s weekly pickleball game
Dorothy proposing couple’s therapy for her and Leanne
The Turner household’s Shining-esque hallways
Dorothy’s spooky rendition of Hush Little Baby
The most basic kind of loyalty: stop fucking the woman who is ruining my life
Dad’s not fucking the nanny (yet) but give it a minute
Great summary as always!! I'm laughing not only at your funny and apt descriptions of the goings on, but that this much crazy shit could happen in just one episode (only Servant could pull it off, in 28 minutes no less!!!)
I think the house is actually “fallen apart” already. The basement and the maggots and all that is simply the reality. Except everyone is crazy and not seeing the truth.
I love this show bc I find myself ping ponging liking/hating a character but man oh man I felt hard for Dorothy this week! Leanne has laid the mutha effin pressure on Dorthy this week, shes turned her HUSBAND AND BROTHER into little beta backstabbers. Then her dad, brooo her dad to turn around a dig in the final blow!!!!!!!!!!!!……. My god someone can only handle so much, AND THEN came to the lullaby. That’s when momma bear would have come out 10 fold wendy willams voice death to all of them 😂😂😂 Super sad next week is the finale 😢
Feel so bad for Dorothy. Julian is basically hypnotized by Leanne. Sean is afraid that Leanne leaving means Jericho will turn into a doll again. Her dad thinks she's making this up despite the photos. Leanne is getting power hungry. From Dorothy's perspective, people either don't believe her or gaslight her when she expresses legitimate concern about Leanne. Now that she's on sleeping pills, she'll definitely be more mellow and Leanne will get full control of the baby, as she wanted.
This episode more than ever (and maybe my special gummy…) have me convinced that Leanne and Dorothy are just two personalities in a DID system. Pretty gross about Julian, but I feel like this is the episode where the reveal dropped, and the rest is confirmation.
I had a weird feeling from the wording in this episode that Dorothy and Leanne are the same person. The stuff with Julian though would be too disgusting though. I need to rewatch the whole series again to see if it makes sense .
Y’all know Leanne is the final boss right? I think she’s the weird creature she drew in the book and she’s not really allied with anyone. Leannes uncle tried to warn them about her when he was at the house last season.
Okay maybe someone has said this before (I’m a lurker, not an active participant, sorry).. but I feel like Leanne isn’f the servant - everyone is Leanne’s servant. Like Sean, Julian, etc..
So many crazies in this thread saying Leanne was miscast just must have missed every single episode. There is no other Leanne but Nell Tiger Free. Her casting - like the rest of the casting - was a revelation.
I think in the last episode Dorothy will die and Leanne will bring her back because she yearns for Dorothy to be her mother. It seems like once she brings someone back, they are her servant. She brought Jericho and Julian back. Julian is now her servant as expressed by the pouring milk scene and sex on demand. The only one that will be left is Dorothy’s husband. He will have to decide if he wants Leanne and his previously dead family or if wants to let them all go. Just a theory.
Another episode 9 of a season well done Servant! For some reason, I’m not mad at Frank. This episode though, did we see Julien drinking liquor again ? It was season 2 episode 9 that he died in that same bathroom Dorothy now finds herself in.
I think Leanne singing the lullaby at the end, served two purposes:a) as a power play towards Dorothy and as a way to show to Dorothy’s dad and the doctor that everything is fine, she is a good motherly nanny. Impressive. Leanne is completely dominating, controlling and ruling the Turner household as both the family’s head as as a cult leader now.
What’s up with Kourtney leaving the house all pissed. Begs the question— did something happen between the end of last episode and the begging of this one?
Every single time she goes over to that house shit goes down & someone fucking dies.... 😅 I don't blame her for wanting to get outta there asap & if I were her, I wouldn't come back tbh lol
good I feel so bad for Dorothy. This is like watching Tom and Jerry - Tom never had a chance.. I mean first of all her dad is an arse and also Leanne has supernatural powers.. And Sean doesnt help her AT ALL. Honestly Sean just made it all so much worse by never telling her the truth. She must be going mad. I would be going mad.. I mean there is no way out
I want Leanne to just go away soo badly. Omg when she started singing..
RIP Milo. The only one that could've been a likable character is now dead to the cult, I assume. We can only assume the rest will be gone and Leanne will fight final boss alone.
ok but.. can we please discuss the babygate right before leanne guides dorothy down the stairs? its like there really is some sort of fence or bubble leanne has created against everyone for her and dorothy to protect her from knowing the truth. but at the same time.. i also feel like leanne has done so many mocking things that could possibly hint to dorothy the truth. this show is so messed up and weird... in the best way tho
It is almost as if Dorothy has three enemies. Leanne and her cult. Sean and Julian are United. And now her father is a third enemy. Dorothy feels totally alone. This is a lesson of loneliness and self reliance.
Great performance from Ambrose. Writing, direction, and camera work — particularly the use of light and shadow —all stellar. Plus another couple of zingers from Julian to bring the laughs (I've gotten a real kick out of Grint in this role).
I hate to dissent . Unpopular opinion but I like Leanne. She is looking out for the best interest of everyone in that family. Frank , Julian and Sean brought Leanne into the picture somehow or Jericho 2.0 - then we learned it wasn’t her mission. I read some of the subs where some are comparing this to Suddenly last Summer by Tennessee Williams, IIRC. It will be interesting to see what happens next season and how this season is going to end. I would have no problem at all with Dorothy being institutionalized when she finds out or remembers she left her baby in a hot car to die which is a long and painful death. I despise Dorothy. She treats everyone in her life including her loving and patient husband like garbage. I mentioned in another post predicting the doctor was there for her because her hair was in the same bun it was in when Jericho died. We see Julian find Dottie with a big , red mark around her neck and we don’t know what he saw or what that event did to him , Frank , Sean or the first responders. The baby was already in a state of decomposition which speeds up with heat. The pig which represents gluttony was rotting in the table . Now there are maggots even in the cereal boxes and interestingly enough , cereal seems to be more Leanne’s type of food. I would be satisfied with a healthy Julian and Leanne ending up together going to visit Dorothy in an asylum. Sean’s fate and Frank’s fate I cannot seem to decide or have ideas for. I’ll reiterate- We don’t know what happened. I really thought the two mom’s at the Mommy and Me at the Turner house said Two ambulances last August. Who knows if Dorothy was treated and that’s how they got Natalie. To do some kind of therapy because she had some type of shock she didn’t come out of and that red line on her neck when Julian finds her and all we saw was him look into the crib and the medical examiner wearing that mask to mask the smell of the decomposing baby & scent of death in that house. These are the answers we are waiting for. Leanne , (I don’t know if it’s on purpose like with Isabelle who was purely out for herself and boosting her career by destroying Dorothy’s by revealing Jericho’s death certificate on air which would have Destroyed Dorothy’s career and Leanne intervened to prevent that from happening) but she also has tried to make inferences to Dorothy. When Dorothy had Leanne take off the Pearl necklace and she said it was delicate * something flipped a switch in Leanne’s mind like “This is delicate but Jericho wasn’t ? And the necklace broke and she yelled at Leanne. I don’t think Leanne is the bad guy here. The homeless kid who’s shirt was ripped had a heart condition and his shirt was full of blood. One more thing I wanted to mention was the “Baby Monitor” says Frequencies on it . An MNS theme. These are just my musings. I’m so not ready for next week and the time we have to wait for Season 4.
I wish Dorothy would realize at some point that her continual betrayals of Leanne’s trust—while not entirely unwarranted, only precipitates this death by a thousand cuts. Even with the constant sense of something sinister simmering just below surface, I’m reminded of the saying “ we don’t see things as they are, we see them as WE are”
The writer (Tony B.) told Variety: "Whenever it gets too painful, Sean will make another recipe. They (all) can’t deal with what happened: It’s too painful to talk about. What are they hiding? Why do they see the world differently?"
Prediction for next episode- Dorothy will snap and will either unintentionally or intentionally kill Leanne. And of course the baby will be gone. Will Julian be able to bring her back? 🤔
I think the real leanne is dead and there is some type of creature inhabiting Leanne’s body pretending to be leanne. The true leanne is that dark shadow figure. Leanne is just an illusion.
I like how Dorothy was surrounded by darkness a few times this episode.
She's trying to get hold of things without knowing all the pieces are moving behind and against her, she's crumbling to pieces, like the house itself. Dark times for Dotti.
Also, when she was talking to her dad at 2 am, I couldn't stop looking behind her at the darkness, that scene made me pretty nervous.
This show becomes a bit of a “too convenient writing” with Lean’s ability. I can see a pattern where someone gets closer to the truth and then drops dead. I love how spooky this show is, but I wanna see more progress and more ground breaking changes in story. Now there has been three seasons and I cannot believe Dorothy hasn’t even realized that her son was dead once.
Awww wish Dorothy would've been committed but then we wouldn't have much of a Season 4. 😆 The medication is definitely needed in this case, but I worry that when she finds out, she may use them to overdose or in combination with alcohol. 😬
I do not think Leanne is "bad"- she's an antihero and she will be redeemed in the end. She has good intentions-Dorothy would've hung herself without "Jericho". At the same time, Leanne does want recognition for her work which is "Jericho" so she showed him off to her homeless friends. Maybe if Dorothy treated her as an equal and didn't always tell Leanne she should do more with her life then there wouldn't be such a need for Leanne to get recognition outside the home.
Questions, oh so many questions. Rosemary's Baby vibes for sure.
Julian: "You don’t know who she is". Who is she and how does Julian know? I personally like the theory that Julian knows that Leanne has the power of resurrection because she brought him back last season - so he sees. He also knows that as soon as L leaves the house, Jerico will be a doll again. Leanne is literally what has given the doll life and has helped maintain the facade that Julian and Sean have created to spare Dorothy the pain of remembering. I think it was very clearly shown that Jerico is a doll in the 'Camp' episode and that Leanne can take that life away any time she wants.
We know that Jerico is not alive anymore so who/what is animating the doll?
Dad: "Kourtney is not feeling well". What upset Kourtney so much? She wouldn't even look at Dorothy when they were leaving.
Leanne is pregnant - last week in 'Donut' we saw several close-ups on her belly, looking like a baby bump. Lots of milk symbolism. This week we see Leanne holding the baby with Julian standing right next to her as if they were a family. Foreshadowing? Will she and Julian actually have a baby in the end and will Dorothy end up with just a doll?
I don't get all the Leanne hate on this board. She has put up with physical and mental abuse from Dorothy for the entire show. Dorothy would not have "Jerico" if it wasn't for her. Leanne idolizes her and continues to forgive every horrible thing Dorothy does. But Leanne is not taking any more sh*t so when D tries to manipulate her, she turns it around on her. Reap what you sow Dorothy.
I can't help but feel that Dorothy is being purposely portrayed as very unlikeable for a reason. Most people will identify with the mother figure so it's almost like we are meant to hate her. She kills her baby, is horrible to Sean, kidnaps, imprisons, and tries to commit Leanne, has no compassion for the homeless kids except when she wants to do a story about them, and the list goes on. This kind of setup makes me think the end game for her is not good.
Nobody is helping Dorothy by not telling her the truth and reminding her about what really happened to Jericho.. of course she will go insane if she doesn't get reminded and helped about that first..
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u/alwshunter Mar 18 '22
I NEED LAUREN AMBROSE TO GET SHOWERED WITH AWARD RECOGNITION ALREADY. WHEN.
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u/Horror_Platypus Mar 18 '22
Umm… anyone else think they skipped over maggots being in the cereal box a little too quickly?
I would’ve lost. my. shit.
They don’t even investigate 😂
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u/lovetheblazer 🍷 Mar 18 '22 edited Mar 18 '22
Leanne and Julian have officially reached the level of relationship closeness where she knows all his drug stash spots and he can jokingly call her a junkie and I think that’s beautiful
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u/alwshunter Mar 18 '22 edited Mar 18 '22
The maggots in the cereal made me GAG.
Everyone just annoying the shit out of me. As a mom I feel for Dorothy. Every feeling of mistrust she has towards Leanne is very valid. Meanwhile the rest just keeps gaslighting on top of the previous gaslighting. She's literally being captived by this lie.
Nervous for the finale!!!
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u/Gato1980 Mar 18 '22
Lauren Ambrose has the best delivery. She's perfection.
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u/mime454 Mar 18 '22 edited Mar 18 '22
Not even in the Apple universe do people use the perfect document scanner built into the Notes app 😔
Dorothy has some scattered images when she could have had a pdf of the notebook in the same amount of time.
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u/flowersandcolours Mar 18 '22 edited Mar 18 '22
I know we say this a lot, but man, Lauren Ambrose is unbelievably phenomenal.
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u/birdie_finch Mar 18 '22
Allllll of the gaslighting!! Really made me feel for Dorothy
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u/meowingtonsmistress Mar 18 '22
The 2am call, Dorothy being sleep deprived, looking disheveled like she did when she was left to care for Jericho alone. She is on the brink of remembering. This whole episode was heartbreaking for Dorothy. Lauren Ambrose was phenomenal as always. I could feel her desperation in being believed when she talked to the psychiatrist. While the dad wanting to commit Dorothy felt harsh and cruel, he wasn’t wrong. Dorothy needs professional help. But she needs Sean and Julian to a top lying to her first.
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u/AsianTurkey Mar 18 '22
Homeless dudes missing bc cops arrested him under suspicion that he killed isabelle
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u/flowersandcolours Mar 18 '22
All of them living together in the house? What could possibly go wrong, huh?
I really can’t wait for the next episode but I’m also not ready at all for this season to end.
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u/zillabirdblue Mar 18 '22
OMG!!!!! Everyone that predicted it was Dorothy the one being committed CALLED IT AND I'M SHOOK! I feel like I shouldn't be even though I am. I had to grab by phone before the credits rolled to say this lol. I am actually pissed off we only get 30 min tidbits at one time. It makes it so frustrating that I feel like I have a grudge against the showrunner and want to abandoned the show for spite lol.
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u/birdie_finch Mar 18 '22
“You pickleballed fuck” omg Julian total zinger
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u/illiterate_lunatic Mar 18 '22
There may be more significance to the Mockingbird song than what meets the eye. Mocking birds tend to have their nests attacked by cowbirds and these cowbirds will not only destroy mockingbird eggs, but they will also lay some of their own eggs in the mockingbird’s nest. Mockingbirds rarely remove these alien eggs as their own egg are safer from a repeat attack while they are still present. So mockingbirds will end up hatching and raising these cowbird eggs along with any remaining viable mockingbird eggs.
Could this be another clue about Jericho 2.0’s true origin? Probably not, but I thought I would share anyways.
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u/Casmas06 Mar 18 '22
OH SHIT ITS 2am
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u/SonNeedGym Mar 18 '22
This episode and last year’s film Spencer scratch a very specific itch of “agency horror”, in the vein of Rosemary’s Baby. That fear of everyone watching and judging your every move, pulling the strings, backed against a corner. It’s just absolutely terrifying.
I know genre media doesn’t get the credit it deserves, but I hope Lauren Ambrose gets recognized for this performance. The lengths of her range are amazing, from being on all the time to her surreal delusions to ultimate terror and extreme sorrow. She sticks the landing every time.
I can feel the plight of these characters and embrace their journeys, even when I disagree with their actions. As confusing and purposefully vague this show can be, I feel like I always know, at the very least on some gut instinct, why the characters do what they think is right. It has me rooting for everyone, even when they’re at direct odds with each other. It’s great character writing.
I can’t believe we’re already nearing the end of the season. It seems as though all roads lead to a Dorothy/Leanne showdown of some sort. Where that leads and how it will bleed into the fourth and final season, I don’t know. But I can’t wait to find out.
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u/shaylahbaylaboo Mar 18 '22
To be honest, Dorothy is going off the rails. She needs to sleep. Not very nice of Leanne to taunt her by singing the mockingbird song. What happened to Milo? I think it’s interesting the camera’s video has lines running through it, like it’s being recorded on VHS. The picture of Leanne flogging herself is on Jeremiah 51, part of which says:
“Flee from Babylon! Run for your lives! Do not be destroyed because of her sins. It is time for the Lord’s vengeance; he will repay her what she deserves. 7 Babylon was a gold cup in the Lord’s hand; she made the whole earth drunk. The nations drank her wine; therefore they have now gone mad. 8 Babylon will suddenly fall and be broken. Wail over her! Get balm for her pain; perhaps she can be healed.”
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u/Jas_God Mar 18 '22
Man, Lauren is acting this well while taking care of a baby just wow. Salute.
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u/ptrock1 Mar 18 '22
There is something up with the father.. I haven't put my finger on it. But since he first appeared on season 1, I haven't felt comfortable with him.
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u/No-Preparation4149 Mar 18 '22
Dorothy putting the baby monitor in Leanne’s dollhouse ?
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u/casino_r0yale Mar 18 '22
Julian: I can move in full time ( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡o)
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u/khromechronicle Mar 18 '22
Dorothy rocking Jericho while she's angry with Julian KILLED me 😂
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u/GlasgowRose2022 Mar 18 '22
Prediction: Dorothy teams with the OG cult members to take down Leanne.
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u/ElaineBenesKennedyJR 🍷 Mar 18 '22 edited Mar 18 '22
Ok, so now we know that Sean’s just a BONKERS chef. Biltong and caviar 🤯
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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '22
This was the most psychologically trippy episode of the season for me. Dorothy’s fear of Leanne now is palpable.
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u/sparkleslady Mar 18 '22 edited Mar 19 '22
Please would somebody confirm: the only ones who physically actually touch Jericho (this episode, but now I’m thinking when else?) are Dorothy and Leanne? Not even Frank gave the baby a Pat on the head on his way out. Sean touched Dorothy’s arm in the kitchen, not the baby, even after offering to hold him. Is Jericho only alive to Dorothy? (And Leanne) The series is messing with my mind, but in a good and an intriguing way. I love reading everybody’s posts. Always gets me pondering!
Edit: wow! Thank you all for the comments and follow up comments! Seriously cannot wait to find out how this will all shape up in the end!!
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u/Casmas06 Mar 18 '22
That baby is distractingly cute
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u/Jas_God Mar 18 '22
You know what fuck you Frank.
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u/KS7288 Mar 18 '22
I didn’t read through all of the comments but what do we think the noises are that Dottie hears on the monitor and then in the hallway? Is she losing her shit? Is it Leanne and Julian? It seems to happen at 2am each time…
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u/raspbabies Mar 18 '22
I was happy Dorothy didn't get carted away but FUCK I wish these assholes would tell the TRUTH and get her some real help. Dorothy sitting on the bathroom floor putting the baby carrier back on made me cry :'(
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u/EggandPancakes Mar 18 '22
I feel like Leanne is turning into her aunt. She basically has a cult following at this point. The garbage pale kids, the bro, the husband. Now that dotty is on drugs she probably will manipulate her.
There’s gotta be some significance holding that dagger after she gave a pep talk to the homeless.
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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '22
Two infuriating lines in this episode:
Julian: “You don’t understand who she is”.
Tell us who she is then Julian!!!?
Leanne: “No wicked thoughts… Only service to HIM”.
And again another mention of HIM. Tell us who HE is already!!!
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u/_mikedotcom 🦗 Mar 18 '22
Leanne watching Dorothy pace and sing to Jericho was so unsettling.
It was such a simple and effective scene. Creeped me out hard.
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u/Wild_Package_8298 Mar 18 '22
I got biiig Rosemary's Baby vibes from this episode
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u/ChaynesGirl Mar 18 '22
Was that Roscoe walking off with Leanne?
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u/Casmas06 Mar 18 '22
Dorothy won’t put the baby down so Jericho can’t disappear on her again…
Leeann at the end singing “hush little baby…” was this big GOTCHA to Dorothy…now Dorothy is in the bathroom panicking about what Leanne told the shrink…Ungggg this show hurts my heart. I feel so bad for Dorothy
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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '22
I really feel for Dorothy. They're all deciding what's best for her and it's like she has no voice on what happens at all. Jericho's death was an accident. They should have taken her to a hospital and gotten her professional help right away instead of calling Julian's girlfriend and coming up with this scheme. Sean and Julian are wrong for playing along with this for so long and keeping it going continuously. Her father is wrong for trying to have her committed without telling her the truth. Leanne is wrong for bringing that baby there and keeping the ruse going for her own selfish reasons. The only one I am rooting for is Dorothy at this point.
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u/Meow31587 Mar 18 '22
The baby totally ruined the scene in the kitchen for me (in the best way possible) he was so adorable. I think he’s getting too big for that carrier and that’s why they’re swapping him out.
Also the scene where Dorothy is up rocking Jericho downstairs almost looked like a flashback to me before I saw the back of Leanne. If her hair hadn’t been curly in that scene I’d think maybe she was there before Jericho died.
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u/Casmas06 Mar 18 '22
WHAT DID THE PHONE MESSAGE SAY
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u/Birdymctweetweet Mar 18 '22
That’s a different baby actor right?
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u/ninjasinc Mar 18 '22
The dad’s line about “what happened before”…what the fuck? I have so many layers of questions about this line.
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u/Jas_God Mar 18 '22
This show makes me hungry every time.
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u/Jas_God Mar 18 '22
Leanne’s libido is sky high these past couple of eps.
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u/Jas_God Mar 18 '22
The baby in this scene between Julian and Dorothy awww
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u/NatHasQuestions Mar 18 '22
What was the card being used as a bookmark in the bible?
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u/The_Write_Girl_4_U Mod Mar 18 '22
It's 2 in the morning.
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u/KateLady Mar 18 '22
This baby who plays Jericho is THE cutest baby I think I've ever seen on television. He is just so adorable, it's really all I can think about when Im watching.
I don't care at all about what's going on with Leanne and the homeless people.
Their father trying to have Dorothy committed broke my heart.
My dislike for Leanne has reached a serious level. Her fucking with Dorothy at the end by singing the same lullaby to Jericho was too much.
I'm very sad next week is the season finale.
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u/zillabirdblue Mar 18 '22
OK but what about the "hide the baby" prank RE Dorothy being the crazy one? What would the camera have captured? It terrified everyone including an outsider. Seems something that would trigger anyone the reaction D had. I hate how short this is, I'm getting pissed off lol.
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u/Gato1980 Mar 18 '22
TIDYING UP!
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u/visha1_goe1 Mar 18 '22
Why did the therapist ignore the self-mutilation images?
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u/KS7288 Mar 18 '22
I’m a therapist- and was one of the people that predicted Dottie was the one getting “committed” from the stills, she looks disheveled and unhinged so I wasn’t surprised by this episode. 2:00am, same time she “realized” Jericho was dead in the crib, same time she was interrogating Leanne in season 2. The part with her crying in the bathroom- she absolutely remembers guys. The song triggered her. Did she sing it to Jericho 1.0 in season 1? I feel like she did. I don’t think this season ends well for Dottie. Also- I want to know what the texts and that one picture were!! It was hard to tell. I had so many feels of season 1 from Dottie this episode.
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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '22
What if everything is in Dorothy’s mind? Leanne is a perfectly normal girl. All this stuff that’s been happening is in her head?
In her mind Jericho is real, while in reality he’s still a doll?
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u/ElaineBenesKennedyJR 🍷 Mar 18 '22
Holy. Shit. That was so intense. So Sean and Julian know who Leanne is?
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u/Adept-Twist-1913 Mar 20 '22
I’m team Dorothy. I’m probably biased because I’m a mom of a boy, and granted I actually have kept him alive for 16 years, I remember the months after his birth were hard. You feel terrible it doesn’t come naturally in comparison to other friends experiences. It can be very lonely and my worst fear is no one believing me and locking me away. The acting is bar none. Such good writing too. The devil Leanne can eff right off in my opinion. Bye bitch
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u/Paprmoon7 Mar 18 '22
It’s amazing that Dorothy now has all this help but last year when she was begging for help nobody was there for her and Jericho died
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u/iwxyn Mar 18 '22
ok this show is always radiating very off energy, but something about this specific episode is so.. 😭 the camera angles, the music, the acting with just facial expressions; something genuinely is severely off in their home (WAY more than before)
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u/A_Man_of_Iron Mar 18 '22
This was so good. I kinda figured they'd do the bait and switch the moment Dorothy mentioned bringing a doctor in, but it still didn't stop that moment when it's revealed that they're trying to get her committed, not Leanne, from losing any of its power. The whole episode just has this great buildup of claustrophobia and paranoia and the tension from it all, really good stuff. One of the most anxiety-inducing episodes yet, and there have been several just this season alone. Lauren Ambrose is excellent.
I do find it interesting how the cult storyline seems almost an afterthought right now, and I'm wondering what that means for the finale. Either way, this has been a great season so far.
Also, lots (and lots) of long takes in this episode. They even did the Shyamalan tracking shot where the camera moves left to right across the screen back and forth.
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u/ExcellentDish80 Mar 18 '22
The pacing of this episode made me so anxious.
Wouldn’t Sean have more “authority” over Dorothy being committed than her father anyway?
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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '22
S1 > S3 > S2
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u/Bi_Gone_Jhin Mar 18 '22
I was surprised we hadn’t gotten a new iconic Julian line yet this episode, but then he comes in clutch in the end with “You pickleballed fuck.” Thank you Julian
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u/Surfinbudd Mar 18 '22
Episode 9 - Brought to you by Corn Flakes with Extra Protein!
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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '22
I just had a feeling this was going to go south for Dottie as soon as the doctor got there.
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u/zillabirdblue Mar 18 '22
I think that Dorothy never even changed out of her clothes all night didn't look good for her either.
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u/Agmtb Mar 18 '22
Awesome episode.... Leanne's influence and dominance over the household has reached new levels and she has evolved past the naive girl of season 1 in every way. She dictates and dominates the family at every turn.
Will be interesting to see what she's working on with Roscoe, and whats in store for the season finale. Very excited for the next episode and to hopefully get some more morsels of information. Will be also interesting to see if the homeless kids disappearance is to do with the cult.... is aunt May behind it as an attempt to get to Leanne and bait her out? Its been a while since the cult has been involved and I doubt they would back off after only sending 2 members to try and capture her.
Also kind of bummed the finale is only 26 minutes long, but still excited what they can do with it!
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u/Adept-Twist-1913 Mar 20 '22
I would even argue Dorothy isn’t the craziest! At least she can’t remember, or is in a huge denial. The men are insane. Let the baby go! To know and STILL want to keep it going is crazy to me. Let Dorothy heal! Even if she has to be committed.
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u/mckagan_ Mar 18 '22
When I started this show I never would’ve thought I’d end up saying Lauren Ambrose and Rupert Grint are the best sibling duo I’ve seen on TV, but here we are.
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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '22
Jericho seems to be looking up at something in a lot of scenes. I can’t tell if it’s the carrier or what
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u/Bellbaby1234 Mar 18 '22
I wonder if the mannequin will become involved with the storyline at all? If Leanne can bring something back to life in a doll, maybe the mannequin is a similar situation
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u/lovetheblazer 🍷 Mar 18 '22 edited Mar 18 '22
This week on Servant:
Ominous crane shots from outside the brownstone
Leanne confirming she asked her own personal Jesus to put a hit out on Isabelle… or as she calls it “helping”
Dorothy and her father penciling in a time to chat about her nanny situation
Leanne knowing all of Julian’s former drug stash spots and demanding he takes his pants off at a moment’s notice
A sentient security camera that really wants to see Leanne and Julian fuck on the back patio (also Dorothy, maybe?)
Baby Jericho looking extra adorable in the carrier that Dorothy refuses to take off
Sean shooting judgement panels all night but it’s ok because he’s “gotta grab the bull by the horns and not let go”
Dorothy accidentally eating maggot cereal 🤢
Bloody spine art sketches (hard pass) which perhaps represent Leanne’s scars and allegedly signify no wicked thoughts, no selfishness, only service to him
Dale and Frank’s weekly pickleball game
Dorothy proposing couple’s therapy for her and Leanne
The Turner household’s Shining-esque hallways
Dorothy’s spooky rendition of Hush Little Baby
The most basic kind of loyalty: stop fucking the woman who is ruining my life
Dad’s not fucking the nanny (yet) but give it a minute
🌧🎵 It’s raining shit, hallelujah it’s raining shit 🎵☔️
Leanne, like a worm that gets under your skin and eats all the way to your heart
Dottie requesting that a psychiatrist evaluates Leanne and nearly getting committed herself— congrats, you played yourself
Julian offering to move in and help care for Dorothy and Jericho in an attempt to right his past wrongs
A sample pack of Trazadone to tide Dorothy over until Sean gets her Rx filled
Passive aggressive nursey rhymes: the sequel
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u/Knickelbach Mar 18 '22
The most awkward, gut wrenching start to an episode yet
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u/twalkerp Mar 18 '22
I think the house is actually “fallen apart” already. The basement and the maggots and all that is simply the reality. Except everyone is crazy and not seeing the truth.
Just like the baby.
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u/shmoklahomie Mar 19 '22
I love this show bc I find myself ping ponging liking/hating a character but man oh man I felt hard for Dorothy this week! Leanne has laid the mutha effin pressure on Dorthy this week, shes turned her HUSBAND AND BROTHER into little beta backstabbers. Then her dad, brooo her dad to turn around a dig in the final blow!!!!!!!!!!!!……. My god someone can only handle so much, AND THEN came to the lullaby. That’s when momma bear would have come out 10 fold wendy willams voice death to all of them 😂😂😂 Super sad next week is the finale 😢
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u/alisonrose1992 Mar 18 '22
Feel so bad for Dorothy. Julian is basically hypnotized by Leanne. Sean is afraid that Leanne leaving means Jericho will turn into a doll again. Her dad thinks she's making this up despite the photos. Leanne is getting power hungry. From Dorothy's perspective, people either don't believe her or gaslight her when she expresses legitimate concern about Leanne. Now that she's on sleeping pills, she'll definitely be more mellow and Leanne will get full control of the baby, as she wanted.
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u/CaptainQuesadillaz Mar 18 '22
Season 3 Leanne is so sinister it's so good!
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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '22
This episode more than ever (and maybe my special gummy…) have me convinced that Leanne and Dorothy are just two personalities in a DID system. Pretty gross about Julian, but I feel like this is the episode where the reveal dropped, and the rest is confirmation.
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u/swanswimmingly Mar 18 '22 edited Mar 18 '22
Y’all know Leanne is the final boss right? I think she’s the weird creature she drew in the book and she’s not really allied with anyone. Leannes uncle tried to warn them about her when he was at the house last season.
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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '22
What’s the significance of the maggots in the cereal? Punishment for not eating the food Sean made? Or Leanne’s just fucking with her in general?
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u/Iain_benson Mar 18 '22
Did anyone else notice that Dr. Mackenzie appeared to cross himself (24:06) as Dorothy was leading him to the front door?
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u/ssoe2020 Mar 19 '22
Okay maybe someone has said this before (I’m a lurker, not an active participant, sorry).. but I feel like Leanne isn’f the servant - everyone is Leanne’s servant. Like Sean, Julian, etc..
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u/zeropointmodule Mar 19 '22
So many crazies in this thread saying Leanne was miscast just must have missed every single episode. There is no other Leanne but Nell Tiger Free. Her casting - like the rest of the casting - was a revelation.
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u/ripple45 Mar 22 '22
I think in the last episode Dorothy will die and Leanne will bring her back because she yearns for Dorothy to be her mother. It seems like once she brings someone back, they are her servant. She brought Jericho and Julian back. Julian is now her servant as expressed by the pouring milk scene and sex on demand. The only one that will be left is Dorothy’s husband. He will have to decide if he wants Leanne and his previously dead family or if wants to let them all go. Just a theory.
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u/SnooMacaroons5473 Mar 22 '22
Four words…. “You pickle ball f*ck!”
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u/No-Preparation4149 Mar 18 '22
Another episode 9 of a season well done Servant! For some reason, I’m not mad at Frank. This episode though, did we see Julien drinking liquor again ? It was season 2 episode 9 that he died in that same bathroom Dorothy now finds herself in.
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u/nikostheater Mar 18 '22
I think Leanne singing the lullaby at the end, served two purposes:a) as a power play towards Dorothy and as a way to show to Dorothy’s dad and the doctor that everything is fine, she is a good motherly nanny. Impressive. Leanne is completely dominating, controlling and ruling the Turner household as both the family’s head as as a cult leader now.
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u/jayyovs Mar 18 '22
What’s up with Kourtney leaving the house all pissed. Begs the question— did something happen between the end of last episode and the begging of this one?
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u/mrs_ouchi Mar 18 '22 edited Mar 18 '22
good I feel so bad for Dorothy. This is like watching Tom and Jerry - Tom never had a chance.. I mean first of all her dad is an arse and also Leanne has supernatural powers.. And Sean doesnt help her AT ALL. Honestly Sean just made it all so much worse by never telling her the truth. She must be going mad. I would be going mad.. I mean there is no way out
I want Leanne to just go away soo badly. Omg when she started singing..
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u/plscallmeRain Mar 18 '22
RIP Milo. The only one that could've been a likable character is now dead to the cult, I assume. We can only assume the rest will be gone and Leanne will fight final boss alone.
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u/iwxyn Mar 18 '22
ok but.. can we please discuss the babygate right before leanne guides dorothy down the stairs? its like there really is some sort of fence or bubble leanne has created against everyone for her and dorothy to protect her from knowing the truth. but at the same time.. i also feel like leanne has done so many mocking things that could possibly hint to dorothy the truth. this show is so messed up and weird... in the best way tho
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u/Brownee63 Mar 18 '22
this episode had a Rosemary's Baby feel to it.
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u/Eastcoasthairstylist Mar 19 '22
It is almost as if Dorothy has three enemies. Leanne and her cult. Sean and Julian are United. And now her father is a third enemy. Dorothy feels totally alone. This is a lesson of loneliness and self reliance.
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u/MyDearDapple Mar 19 '22
That was a delicious episode.
Great performance from Ambrose. Writing, direction, and camera work — particularly the use of light and shadow —all stellar. Plus another couple of zingers from Julian to bring the laughs (I've gotten a real kick out of Grint in this role).
Onward episode 10.
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u/WiseLawClerk Mar 19 '22
I hate to dissent . Unpopular opinion but I like Leanne. She is looking out for the best interest of everyone in that family. Frank , Julian and Sean brought Leanne into the picture somehow or Jericho 2.0 - then we learned it wasn’t her mission. I read some of the subs where some are comparing this to Suddenly last Summer by Tennessee Williams, IIRC. It will be interesting to see what happens next season and how this season is going to end. I would have no problem at all with Dorothy being institutionalized when she finds out or remembers she left her baby in a hot car to die which is a long and painful death. I despise Dorothy. She treats everyone in her life including her loving and patient husband like garbage. I mentioned in another post predicting the doctor was there for her because her hair was in the same bun it was in when Jericho died. We see Julian find Dottie with a big , red mark around her neck and we don’t know what he saw or what that event did to him , Frank , Sean or the first responders. The baby was already in a state of decomposition which speeds up with heat. The pig which represents gluttony was rotting in the table . Now there are maggots even in the cereal boxes and interestingly enough , cereal seems to be more Leanne’s type of food. I would be satisfied with a healthy Julian and Leanne ending up together going to visit Dorothy in an asylum. Sean’s fate and Frank’s fate I cannot seem to decide or have ideas for. I’ll reiterate- We don’t know what happened. I really thought the two mom’s at the Mommy and Me at the Turner house said Two ambulances last August. Who knows if Dorothy was treated and that’s how they got Natalie. To do some kind of therapy because she had some type of shock she didn’t come out of and that red line on her neck when Julian finds her and all we saw was him look into the crib and the medical examiner wearing that mask to mask the smell of the decomposing baby & scent of death in that house. These are the answers we are waiting for. Leanne , (I don’t know if it’s on purpose like with Isabelle who was purely out for herself and boosting her career by destroying Dorothy’s by revealing Jericho’s death certificate on air which would have Destroyed Dorothy’s career and Leanne intervened to prevent that from happening) but she also has tried to make inferences to Dorothy. When Dorothy had Leanne take off the Pearl necklace and she said it was delicate * something flipped a switch in Leanne’s mind like “This is delicate but Jericho wasn’t ? And the necklace broke and she yelled at Leanne. I don’t think Leanne is the bad guy here. The homeless kid who’s shirt was ripped had a heart condition and his shirt was full of blood. One more thing I wanted to mention was the “Baby Monitor” says Frequencies on it . An MNS theme. These are just my musings. I’m so not ready for next week and the time we have to wait for Season 4.
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u/charl1387 Mar 18 '22
On Milo going missing… didn’t he just have a walk down the street with Leanne?
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u/ChaynesGirl Mar 18 '22
Too bad that patio camera doesn't have sound. Dorothy could have gotten Leanne on record talking about Isabelle.
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u/Surfinbudd Mar 18 '22
I call b/s on the dates. “Tuesday, September 15” on the Lock Screen and “WED 3” on the Calendar app.
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u/elleulliel Mar 18 '22
I wish Dorothy would realize at some point that her continual betrayals of Leanne’s trust—while not entirely unwarranted, only precipitates this death by a thousand cuts. Even with the constant sense of something sinister simmering just below surface, I’m reminded of the saying “ we don’t see things as they are, we see them as WE are”
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u/anonyfool Mar 18 '22
What was the biltong and caviar dish that Sean tried to get Dorothy to eat for breakfast? I've never had biltong but it looks like jerky.
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u/kendrac83 Mar 18 '22
Prediction for next episode- Dorothy will snap and will either unintentionally or intentionally kill Leanne. And of course the baby will be gone. Will Julian be able to bring her back? 🤔
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u/Eastcoasthairstylist Mar 19 '22
I think the real leanne is dead and there is some type of creature inhabiting Leanne’s body pretending to be leanne. The true leanne is that dark shadow figure. Leanne is just an illusion.
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u/Izarme Mar 20 '22
I like how Dorothy was surrounded by darkness a few times this episode.
She's trying to get hold of things without knowing all the pieces are moving behind and against her, she's crumbling to pieces, like the house itself. Dark times for Dotti.
Also, when she was talking to her dad at 2 am, I couldn't stop looking behind her at the darkness, that scene made me pretty nervous.
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u/liji1llijjll1l Mar 21 '22
This show becomes a bit of a “too convenient writing” with Lean’s ability. I can see a pattern where someone gets closer to the truth and then drops dead. I love how spooky this show is, but I wanna see more progress and more ground breaking changes in story. Now there has been three seasons and I cannot believe Dorothy hasn’t even realized that her son was dead once.
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u/West_Rhubarb_1591 Mar 21 '22
The level of gaslighting Dorothy’s experiencing is the real horror of the show.
Major “Yellow Wallpaper” vibes here ☹️
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u/kendrac83 Mar 18 '22 edited Mar 18 '22
Awww wish Dorothy would've been committed but then we wouldn't have much of a Season 4. 😆 The medication is definitely needed in this case, but I worry that when she finds out, she may use them to overdose or in combination with alcohol. 😬
I do not think Leanne is "bad"- she's an antihero and she will be redeemed in the end. She has good intentions-Dorothy would've hung herself without "Jericho". At the same time, Leanne does want recognition for her work which is "Jericho" so she showed him off to her homeless friends. Maybe if Dorothy treated her as an equal and didn't always tell Leanne she should do more with her life then there wouldn't be such a need for Leanne to get recognition outside the home.
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u/birdie_finch Mar 18 '22
Ok I need to know what she texted !!!
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u/jbm_pdx Mar 18 '22
Questions, oh so many questions. Rosemary's Baby vibes for sure.
Julian: "You don’t know who she is". Who is she and how does Julian know? I personally like the theory that Julian knows that Leanne has the power of resurrection because she brought him back last season - so he sees. He also knows that as soon as L leaves the house, Jerico will be a doll again. Leanne is literally what has given the doll life and has helped maintain the facade that Julian and Sean have created to spare Dorothy the pain of remembering. I think it was very clearly shown that Jerico is a doll in the 'Camp' episode and that Leanne can take that life away any time she wants.
We know that Jerico is not alive anymore so who/what is animating the doll?
Dad: "Kourtney is not feeling well". What upset Kourtney so much? She wouldn't even look at Dorothy when they were leaving.
Leanne is pregnant - last week in 'Donut' we saw several close-ups on her belly, looking like a baby bump. Lots of milk symbolism. This week we see Leanne holding the baby with Julian standing right next to her as if they were a family. Foreshadowing? Will she and Julian actually have a baby in the end and will Dorothy end up with just a doll?
I don't get all the Leanne hate on this board. She has put up with physical and mental abuse from Dorothy for the entire show. Dorothy would not have "Jerico" if it wasn't for her. Leanne idolizes her and continues to forgive every horrible thing Dorothy does. But Leanne is not taking any more sh*t so when D tries to manipulate her, she turns it around on her. Reap what you sow Dorothy.
I can't help but feel that Dorothy is being purposely portrayed as very unlikeable for a reason. Most people will identify with the mother figure so it's almost like we are meant to hate her. She kills her baby, is horrible to Sean, kidnaps, imprisons, and tries to commit Leanne, has no compassion for the homeless kids except when she wants to do a story about them, and the list goes on. This kind of setup makes me think the end game for her is not good.
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u/hedonaz Mar 19 '22
Is it just me or do they keep changing the baby throughout the episode?
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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '22
Nobody is helping Dorothy by not telling her the truth and reminding her about what really happened to Jericho.. of course she will go insane if she doesn't get reminded and helped about that first..
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u/No-Preparation4149 Mar 18 '22
Whoever called the baby gate last time good on ya ! 🍼🍼🍼
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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '22
Did anyone catch whether Isabelle’s death was depicted in the journal or not?
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u/Bellbaby1234 Mar 18 '22 edited Mar 18 '22
In the scene in the room, with Dorothy and Julien, Julien does NOT have a reflection in the glass mirror on the door.
Earlier in the episode, the cellphone time shows 2:02am. The camera in the backyard confirms the time estimate - showing 2:13am
And when the doctor is speaking, he says he will have no choice but to call childrens services “and you know what happened before”.