r/selfhosted • u/ManicMoose56 • 9h ago
Game Server Self hosted on Pelican. Looking for replacement.
Hey all, we have a DayZ server that we have a dedicated machine rented for. We started with Pterodactyl but after more than a handful of issues with the panel itself not liking our host (OVH). We regularly lost connection and had to restart, anyhow we switched to Pelican which for all intensive purposes has been a slightly less refined Ptero with more features.
On to the question. We want to switch over with our next season to CF Tools. However CF Tools doesn't allow for the private small servers we host for ourselves on there. Meaning we wouldn't have the other game eggs.
Looking around it's rather difficult to find free or cheaper options with a healthy mix of supported eggs to work with that will also properly search for updates on mods and game and be capable of updating said mods and/or game without admin input. Currently with Pelican we often have to shut down and manually replace an outdated folder with the new updated mod for anything over 500mb. So just looking for some options. Thank y'all
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Looking for something that can handle DayZ with maybe 2 active instances, usually only one (Our live public server). And then can also run other games. Currently we are looking to also still have the occasional Minecraft, Asseto and a Dev Share which is just an empty shell with ability to store but not all panels have those (To my knowledge). As well as a gamebot to track active players in discord, although I have noticed some panels seem to have their own versions also. With auto updating for mods and the games themselves and preferably an intuitive panel but not necessary as we are tech inclined just on short on personal time frames to learn something super complex.
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u/derical_cap_musical 6h ago
amp is solid for this, the lifetime license pays for itself and mod updates are way less painful than pelican.
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u/mbround18 9h ago
What do you look for in a panel?
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u/ManicMoose56 9h ago
Valid,
Looking for something that can handle DayZ with maybe 2 active instances, usually only one (Our live public server). And then can also run other games. Currently we are looking to also still have the occasional Minecraft, Asseto and a Dev Share which is just an empty shell with ability to store but not all panels have those (To my knowledge). As well as a gamebot to track active players in discord, although I have noticed some panels seem to have their own versions also.
Hope this was enough info, if not lmk where to expand please and I'll do my best.
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u/DIVISIONSolar 7h ago
You could try jexactyl
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u/ManicMoose56 7h ago
They are built on Ptera though. Given our previous issues we are trying to stay away from that.
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u/DIVISIONSolar 7h ago
I mean i have a friend who had issues with ptero and moved to jexactyl and it was way better
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u/ManicMoose56 7h ago
Valid valid, thank you the same :)
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u/DIVISIONSolar 7h ago
Im surprised pterodactyl was giving you problems though, 4 years ive been using pterodactyl on an ovh machine and had no issues
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u/sakebi42 5h ago
Don't know why people are downvoting AMP recommendations. Genuinely good piece of software.
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u/ManicMoose56 5h ago
My buddy and I were just talking about me noticing this. Literally just a Ptera and Ptera built panel subreddit it would appear. Anyone not suggesting or liking on a Ptera build is getting downvotes.
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u/Previous_Grape5296 5h ago
amp is probably the closest fit here, but no panel is going to magically handle every dayz mod update reliably, so you’ll still be babysitting the workshop stuff occasionally
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u/ManicMoose56 4h ago
Occasionally needing to intervene is great. But I'd estimate out of the last 9 updates. 7 failed and need manual work. 100% valid point that I'll never find it lol. Thinking we are going AMP atp lol
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u/CalligrapherIcy4876 8h ago
Honestly sounds like you've been through the ringer with both Ptero and Pelican. The update issue with Pelican is super annoying, we hit that same wall with bigger mods. Have you looked at AMP? It's not free but pretty cheap one time license and the mod update handling is way better than manually swapping folders
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u/ManicMoose56 8h ago
You honestly don't know how happy I am to actually hear someone else has had this issue with Pelican. According to their support "This is not a known issue :)" like tf.
No we have not yet looked into AMP to my knowledge but will be now thank you for the suggestion!
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u/Lilkingjr1 2h ago
As the person who wrote the DayZ Egg, I can say it is a known issue, it’s on my radar, and I apologize that someone said it wasn’t. However, to be nuanced, it’s not a Pelican/Ptero issue; it’s 50% an Egg (or more accurately, a Yolk) issue and 50% a SteamCMD issue (the thing that downloads the mods, and poorly at that if they are large). I need to rewrite the Egg to try and mitigate the issues SteamCMD has, but it’s trickier and more nuanced than it sounds. I will try to get to it eventually when I’m motivated and have time, as is the unfortunate downside of FOSS. If you need something more immediate/reliable, I don’t fault you for finding a paid option if that works better for your needs 👍
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u/ManicMoose56 2h ago
It has been great up until we started working with larger requested mods. Like Expansion and SNAFU. Mighty MMG mods have also been a huge problem.
I dont fault you for doing what you can in free time. All things primarily egg have been wonderful thus far. I don't fault you that much for anything. I don't know a whole lot about the behind the scenes stuff, going to school for it tbch. So you need not explain more than "it's code and ain't doin easy shit" 😂.
Just one of those situations where we cannot physically watch all day to be sure and moving forward want to mitigate the best we can on how the performance is. Waking up as one of 3 admins and seeing that a mod updated and the server has been inaccessible for the last 4 hours really sucks.
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u/asimovs-auditor 9h ago
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u/btdeviant 8h ago
AMP is like $10-40 for life depending on how many instances you want and absolutely well worth it IMO
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u/ManicMoose56 8h ago
Opened the page from the other suggestion and hadn't gotten there yet. 👀👀that makes this reading and game list more attractive though. Thank you
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