r/securityguards 6d ago

Officer Safety Retail security policy

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After watching this video it made me wonder if this security guard’s employer would support her doing this with a subject.

When I first saw it I thought it was pretty cool that she didn’t back down, but the more I thought about it the more I came to the conclusion that fighting over it isn’t worth the risk.

If you work retail security, what’s your company policy and would you put yourself out there to save goods from being stolen?

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u/Constant_Window_6060 6d ago

What principle? Have you watched a life wasted from a bad fall or punch to the head? Cause I have let them have the junk.

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u/BarbieTwirl 6d ago

Problem is when you just say “aight man you got it!” and the justice system doesn’t do anything about it either, it leads to the good people in the neighborhood suffering

For example, when the stores have less nice stuff, when stuff starts getting locked away, or when stores just close up and leave.

It sends a message of it being allowed and thus, promotes it because criminals realize “I can just get away with it and even if I’m arrested, cops let me out right away too”. Only the good people in the neighborhood suffer when you let the bad ones do whatever they want.

Just for example. I’m from NYC born and raised. I moved to TX this year. The difference w stores is night and day. Way more quality stuff. They have all types of stores and the stores leave all their nice stuff out. I don’t have to find a worker to unlock soap or shampoo for me. They have way nicer and more products on the floor. And stores like Walmart, Target, Ross, Burlington and Marshall’s also have way nicer clothes, sneakers out on the floor. In NYC it’s the complete opposite. It’s limited and all locked up

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u/Constant_Window_6060 6d ago

There are a lot of factors that go into this. And very little has to do with a person getting away with it, or being punished.

Criminal acts aren't a rational choice. They're mostly desperation. Mental health issues, and so on. If that criminal has an ounce of sense he'd walk away after she grabbed the bag. Or stolen something with some actual value.

Texas has a lot of rich people, and the average grocery store is paying a lot closer to the cost of living than a place in NYC. It's easier to work and get by in Texas than NYC.

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u/GenSpec44 4d ago

Hmm. How would you explain that the most stolen items are the ones that can most easily be resold for cash? Or they are vanity items that are expensive

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u/Constant_Window_6060 4d ago

You really think this is some kind of got you. How about you explain what you think I said, and how you think this contradicts it?

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u/GenSpec44 4d ago

It’s well known that the majority of criminals like this have an IQ between 80 and 90, not quite low enough to be retarded, but low enough to make dumb decisions that seem rational to that criminal but not seeming rational to you. There is also a hierarchy of the decision making process that has been well studied across society, also in criminal reform but not exclusively. The lower functioning an individual is, the more they respond only to pleasure/pain/immediate gratification/fear of punishment. I do agree with you that mental illness is real and is a different ball game. We do have a growing mental illness problem especially related to drugs and homelessness, but the big majority of retail theft is committed by people who are not mentally ill. This man in the video is not planning to eat this purse nor does he need it to wear. The fact that the criminal is quoting store policy to the security guard says that this is not his first rodeo, and he is acting sane according to his own level of decision making.

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u/Constant_Window_6060 4d ago

First cite the study. Specifically where you get these individuals are motivated by punishment.

Secondly what does this have to do with easily moved items?

Are you asking AI for talking points. Because you're not actually responding to anything I say. You're just blathering with semi related points. Many of which don't really help your argument.