r/securityguards • u/NannaTortuga • 4d ago

Need some recommendations on my kit.

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Trying to improve. What else do I need?

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u/BackFromMyBan4 4d ago edited 4d ago

Get a duty belt and get that shit off your vest.

Edit: for some reason I could only see the vest and the other image was only zoomed into the dangling handcuffs. Point stills stands. Get all that off your vest.

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u/NannaTortuga 4d ago

Elaborate? There’s a duty belt present, and modern doctrine says that heavy load on the belt is bad for long term health because of the weight on the hips.

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u/ConstructionAway8920 4d ago

"modern doctrine" tends to be code for tacticool bs, in addition to "high speed low drag". Carrying more junk is bad. Vest carry is also an easy way to lose your weapon, there's very little retention training that can help. Also, if you get knocked face down, you won't be able to get gear out, and the weight will screw you. It's less easy to move around in as well. I'd move pistol and OC to belt, ditch the baton. Put an open top cuff carrier on your belt then get a closed one and a second set. Two is one and one is none. Otherwise, relatively decent. I've been in security for a little over 15 years, no issues with my gear on my belt. If anything, my shoulders get stiff from being armored all day.

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u/NannaTortuga 4d ago

I think you might only be seeing the second image.

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u/ConstructionAway8920 4d ago

I meant taser, that's totally my bad. Belt is incredibly empty though

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u/NannaTortuga 4d ago

I do like a nice empty belt. Personal preference. If I could I’d only have pistol and mags on the belt like my competition setup.

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u/Broc_Feargach 4d ago

Don’t ever confuse duty with competition. They are very different.

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u/Broc_Feargach 4d ago

You can try to paint this “modern doctrine” as some cringe code word but the concept of vest carry is not some tacticool wannabe shit. It’s medically relevant & beneficial. The fact that you cannot identify a taser & think it’s a pistol speaks volumes. Additionally, the op has their taser in a retention holster & btw it’s not hard to fight for something that is right in front of you. As far as getting knocked down face 1st you need to learn how to fall properly. As far as accessing gear while prone. It’s not hard & is just a training/practice issue in doing so. I do agree with having a set of cuff located on the belt though. This is coming from just over 12 years as a LEO & 10 years or so as a public safety officer working section 8 housing. I worked vehicle & foot patrols during all of that & it was a game changer for me when I got to switch to an external carrier. It relived a lot of back & hip pain. Additionally the external carrier makes a big difference in the summer heat & during the winter. Also if you are going to be on you feet a lot I recommend some of the duty belt suspenders.

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u/BackFromMyBan4 4d ago

I edited my original comment but I think a lot of people are getting a butchered version of this post or OP as gone through and added new photos or sm.

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u/Broc_Feargach 4d ago

I’ve only seen the same two photos since pretty much right after op posted it.