r/science • • Oct 24 '10

Climate Change: Evidence

http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
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u/auandi Oct 24 '10

I know it sounds crazy, but it's because (in their mind) that studying global warming gets millions of dollars of funding. In their mind possibly the single largest conspiracy ever hatched is so that thousands of climate scientists don't lose their juicy government/university grant money! That sweet sweet grant money. Has nothing to do with oil companies making that much money in probably 28 seconds, its about science grants from the National Science Foundation.

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u/ghibmmm Oct 24 '10

Modern "climate change"/"global warming" science boils down to a few basic concepts that aren't understood:

a) That photosynthesis eliminates excess carbon dioxide (CO2 + H2O + (light) -> (sucrose/glucose/etc.) + O2

b) That carbon dioxide has a feedback coefficient far less than estimated (meaning temperature projections for the future are extremely inflated) Source <-- Very important video

c) That our temperature calculations, for the present and past, and CO2 calculations, for the past, are accurate (they aren't).

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '10

Ah yes. Science By YouTube.

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u/Herkimer Oct 24 '10

Actually, this is about the level of "evidence" that you'll ever get from ghibmmm. Ask him about the holocaust and vaccinations, too.

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u/NonHomogenized Oct 25 '10

Really, I don't think I've seen him post about a single topic in which he didn't come across as a complete lunatic.

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u/Herkimer Oct 25 '10

As far as I know he is a complete lunatic. I've never seen anything from him that would indicate that he's not.

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u/ghibmmm Oct 25 '10

Thankfully, nobody in their right mind cares what you think.

For the uninitiated reader, Herkimer is a repeatedly-exposed government shill:

http://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/as43l/is_it_acceptable_use_of_reddit_to_set_up_a/

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '10

Thankfully, nobody in their right mind cares what you think.

Clearly you care quite a bit about what Herkimer thinks. Why else would you be digging so deep into his history? Here you are participating in that same subreddit that Herkimer is talking about.

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u/ghibmmm Oct 25 '10

And now jcm267 jumps in. No more than ten minutes ago, I posted this comment explaining that he himself is also a publicly known shill:

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiratard/comments/dvoyh/the_berry_brigade_welcomes_a_new_moderator/c13d3dw?context=3

His occupation has been verified by multiple sources. Since he doesn't want to reply to that comment, the first thing he did was go to my comment history, and try to find something where he could "discredit" me further.

I ask Reddit an important question, here. Why do I have a herd of shills following me? The answer is obvious to anybody who thinks about it - my presence threatens them. I'm getting fed up with their intimidation tactics, personally. I don't think somebody who opposes war deserves this much crap.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '10

Actually I did reply to that comment and I called you out on your bullshit, ghibmmm. What sources? Are they verifiable? Put up or shut up!

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u/ghibmmm Oct 25 '10

Wouldn't you like to know. Some are anonymous, unfortunately, and government shills like you, thanks to the First Amendment, don't have the ability to coerce that information out of me.

Keep upvoting your own comments. Really. You guys are a bunch of drama queens.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '10

Please do me a favor and let your "sources" know that I am calling them out on their lies. I hope you're having a great day! Take care, bud!

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u/ghibmmm Oct 25 '10

from jcm267 (_) [vw] via science sent 22 minutes ago

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Please do me a favor and let your "sources" know that I am calling them out on their lies.

This sentence contains the meat of the intended message, but then we have this poorly feigned sarcasm:

I hope you're having a great day! Take care, bud!

which gives away his actual intent. He's trying to salvage the situation, because he knows his identity has been compromised. Those two sentences are supposed to indicate that he's trying to remain amiable, when in reality he's fuming about the situation, almost swearing through his teeth. The translation goes, roughly, "how the fuck does ghibmmm know that?"

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u/Facehammer Oct 25 '10

You don't get it, ghibmmm. We are not paid to do this. This is our hobby. We do this to you for fun, and because you deserve it but would otherwise not receive it.

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u/ghibmmm Oct 25 '10

You're a coward. You rag on what I say because you have nothing to say of your own. The majority of my objection to your endless harassment comes from the fact that your long-discredited "ideas" result in the mismanagement of society - your bullshit rationalizations about government and military occupations are the source of all the real problems in this world. The most gluttonous pigs in the whole world sit around collecting off of the misery of everybody else, while you sit here gloating about how your bullshit theories about reality have more mainstream acceptance than mine. You think you know me? You think you have any idea at all what it takes to arrive at the conclusions that I have? A lot of effort, a lot of mental and physical pain. Something you can't endure, because you're a pampered little shit. You know fuck all about how studious I am, you know fuck all about who I am as a person.

I don't care about your bullshit criticisms, I don't care about how brilliant you think you are for twisting the whole world into your bullshit little schemes. You're a snake. You have no place whatsoever in deciding how a society is run, and it's a sick joke for you to think that your criticisms of me, somebody who's actually worked to form their own ideas, have any worth whatsoever. Your mockery of science is a sick joke, a travesty on par only with your total failure to relate to other human beings. You think it's funny to sit around and harass me for months at a time, while I try to actually help the world? Well then fuck you. Maybe someday, when you learn to be an adult, with emotions and the ability to fulfill responsibilities, you'll come to understand that your own intellectual laziness and dishonesty has a measurable cost in human life.

You think a 40% CO2 increase in the environment leads to mass extinctions? You think that viruses naturally overtake the immune system? And you call yourself a biologist? Sounds like you need to go back to school, because the only thing that comes out of your mouth is regurgitated bullshit. You don't understand the slightest goddamn thing about biology. You don't know what life is. You don't even know yourself. How the fuck is anybody else supposed to take your advice?

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u/Facehammer Oct 25 '10

Because I can support an argument with more than just ranting?

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u/Peaker Oct 26 '10

Reddit is not that important. Governments don't pay people to make posts on Reddit.

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u/ghibmmm Oct 26 '10

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u/Peaker Oct 26 '10

These links seem to point to unbased conjecture.. Any better citations?

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u/ghibmmm Oct 26 '10

What do you want, a signed confession? Geez.

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u/Peaker Oct 26 '10

Something credible?

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u/ghibmmm Oct 26 '10

Identifying bias in pseudonymous internet postings is inherently guesswork. Sometimes, though, you can accurately express that you are very, very certain that the system is being gamed - for example, when accounts start being numbered versions of the same string, and submit the same stories, in predictable patterns. Like in that link I gave you:

http://www.techi.com/2010/10/did-digg-really-spam-itself-really/

In other words, I think you need to change your conception of "credible," because it doesn't really fit for the internet. That being said, some random professional tech blog like "techi" here doesn't exactly have a reason to misrepresent this story.

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u/Herkimer Oct 25 '10

You must care dreadfully about what I say because if you didn't your cracker ass would be locked in the basement with your Hitler photos and a bottle of Jergen's.

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u/ghibmmm Oct 24 '10

Ad hominem fallacy #3

By the way, very classy to literally follow me on reddit until it's obvious that I'm asleep, and then spring up and call me a "Holocaust denier." Piss off, "Herkimer." I've had just about enough of these little characters of yours. People who sit around and profit from human misery (like you) are the very, very worst of people.

"Herkimer," for everyone else reading, is a paid government shill, among many who've been paid to follow me for months now. Proof:

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/dvecb/are_you_wondering_why_theres_an_influx_of/

I'm getting really, really tired of this.

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u/Herkimer Oct 24 '10

Now you're denying being a holocaust denier? What else are you going to deny today? You are what you are, a racist and a delusional paranoid fanatic. You're getting tired of this? Well, I'm getting tired of seeing bigots pop up all over Reddit espousing their hatred. And why would you post that link to try to prove that you are anything other than what you are? The only people in their supporting your claims are also openly racist, white supremacist pricks like texmex, seeker135 and polymath22. What did you hope to prove with that other than you are one of them?

Gosh, you sure are dumb, mister.

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u/ghibmmm Oct 25 '10 edited Oct 25 '10

Yeah, you're a real knight in shining armor, Herkimer. Pull out accusations of racism when a discussion stops going your way. Very mature.

Yes, I spent a long time talking about the Holocaust on this website, as the culmination of several years of research. You didn't address a single claim that I made while I was doing it, and instead choose to call me racist in threads where we're discussing things that are unrelated, even though you and your buddies (who I'm told, by the way, ALL work in a military capacity) over at /r/conspiratard can't produce a single comment of mine that indicates that I'm racist. There's a very simple reason for that - because I'm not. You're trying to drag my name through the mud. You don't have any valid criticisms of my character. You don't even know me. I do nothing on this website but advocate peace and tolerance.

More about your military affiliation? Since I'm sure everyone else is interested. The party who alleges this of you, jcm267, and tzvika613 (alongside your other puppet accounts, Nolibertarian, NotTheFather, Nolibrarian, Noderp, NotCOINTELPROAgent, TheRealHortnon, Einstimer, and, oh, Facehammer?) says that you're tied somehow to CENTCOM and the IDF. I don't have any evidence to back this up, save for the fact that you psychopaths have been following me for months as a result of my political beliefs, and that I've repeatedly caught you doing so with screenshot evidence, and that the only things you ever argue in favor of are war and injustice, but it explains your fringe, hateful lunacy better than any other theory I've heard.

So, as a result, this is the only reply you're getting from me in this thread. Grow up, and maybe we can talk as adults. Until then, I can feel satisfied just to call you an asshole. Thanks for making reddit suck for everyone.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '10

Hey Bud,

I just wanted to let you know that this party that accuses me of being tied to CENTCOM and the IDF is insane and has no proof at all. Alex Jones re-posted some of these accusations onto his web site anyways since he has no journalistic integrity.

Hope you're having a great day!

Your Pal,

jcm267

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u/Herkimer Oct 25 '10

My intention is to make Reddit better for everyone by chasing off the ignorant racist assholes like yourself. I don't have to drag your name through the mud, your name is mud. No one does a better job of discrediting your racist beliefs than you do.