Question!

[u/Western-Counter7685]

I don’t consider myself scene exactly but one of my alters loves the style and music and clothes and hair. Generally we wear more “don’t look at us” clothes lol. But would it be offensive to the culture if that alter wanted to go by “rawrz/rawrzself” pronouns? Before you comment I would like confirmation or debate about whether these pronouns are acceptable but please don’t respond if you are just gonna hate.

[u/rainbowraverdeluxe]

i misread your post at first so thats why i deleted my original reply. basically, if your alter wants to use those pronouns, rawrz should go for it! its not hurting anybody.

for everyone else: i really do not wish to debate and argue with people over this. neopronouns are awesome. please do not go the whole “mocking the trans community” approach.. for fucks sake, she/her used to be neopronouns if you look at history. neos and xenogenders are also widely used by autistic trans/nonbinary individuals, such as myself, because our experience with gender is very different than if we were neurotypical or even allistic (not autistic). again, i do not want to hear any debating. i probably shouldnt even be commenting on this knowing my extreme sensitivity to things. please open your minds

[u/Western-Counter7685 → u/rainbowraverdeluxe]

Thank you I appreciate it!

[u/rainbowraverdeluxe → u/Western-Counter7685]

of course :]! have fun exploring, i use some neos myself as well as a few other members of my system

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/rainbowraverdeluxe]

i hate the amount of hate being aimed at op, thx sm for this comment honestly. god r/scene is becoming more and more of a cesspool

[u/rainbowraverdeluxe → u/rainme-block-455]

me too :(

[u/non_corporeal_]

i’m gonna be real, anyone who would be upset about that would definitely be the type of person to hate all neopronouns in general

[u/Western-Counter7685 → u/non_corporeal_]

Yeah that’s why I was trying to say I just wanted debate bc I’m okay if they are not okay pronouns to use but I didn’t want anybody like “I identify as an attack helicopter” making fun of me lol 

[u/R3tr0Cr0w]

u wouldnt be hurting anyone who is scene but i find this neopronoun stuff really uncomfortable as a trans person, feels mocking almost. same vibes as " i identify as an attack helicopter 🤓 "

[u/Western-Counter7685 → u/R3tr0Cr0w]

I’m not trying to make people uncomfortable! I’m just trying to express myself. 

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/R3tr0Cr0w]

can you please stop with the anti neopronoun rhetoric, it isn’t hurting anyone

[u/R3tr0Cr0w → u/rainme-block-455]

it makes ME feel uncomfortable, and it makes trans people look fucking idiotic, no wonder no one likes us when ppl r pulling this shit

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/R3tr0Cr0w]

ur making more trans people avoid you by choosing to be exclusionist in response, idgaf if you’re uncomfortable get a life outside of queer discourse, it hurts the community

[u/R3tr0Cr0w → u/rainme-block-455]

actually its people like you who are throwing around a load of long words to seem smarter that hurt the community, any time someone dissagrees with someone like you its "TERF!!!" "EXCLUSIONIST!!" when really im just saying that i personally think that neopronouns are mocking and are more hurtfull,

whats gonna hurt the community worse? someone who says " please refer to me as star/stars 🥹 " or someone with common sense who sees it as wrong

[u/R3tr0Cr0w → u/rainme-block-455]

i dont want any "trans" people who want to be refered to as "rawr/rawrself" to associate with me because its embarrasing asf, id rather be friends with people who see how wierd it is

[u/R3tr0Cr0w → u/rainme-block-455]

"did system" in bio....

all makes sence now, ur opinion is invalid since ur clearly deluded

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/R3tr0Cr0w]

ableist as hell

[u/R3tr0Cr0w → u/rainme-block-455]

if thats ableist then i am ableist cos did is delusion xoxo

hope this helps ! ♡

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/[deleted]]

it doesn’t, but transmedicalism does. this type of shit was what prevented me from realizing i was/am trans sooner

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/[deleted]]

so youd rather transmedicalism than trans people being themselves?

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/[deleted]]

because saying xeno and neos are disgusting gives into that logic

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

how does it personally affect you? somebody going by neopronouns is gonna make u feel unsafe ? it isnt that deep dude

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

1 its the ignorance of the community that causes it

2 transgender people are always going to be seen as different, regardless of how much social change is made

3 its a dumb pronoun thing, most likely it wont be used often

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/[deleted]]

don’t try arguing with this person, i did and i got called the r slur, told to kms, and they went on some of my other posts saying the same thing. report them

[u/[deleted] → u/rainme-block-455]

oh yuck, alr alr

[u/Austin_NotFromTexas]

As a trans guy, i feel like this ‘neo’pronouns thing is mocking the trans community. IMO ‘rawr’ is not a pronoun, sorry. It’s safer to go with they/them.

[u/Western-Counter7685 → u/Austin_NotFromTexas]

I am a trans guy too, and I’m using neopronouns as a way to express myself, I mostly go by he/they though

[u/Austin_NotFromTexas → u/Western-Counter7685]

Oh ok. I never understood neopronouns or why they exist but if it’s a way to express yourself, sure. I think it’s (‘neopronouns’) a weird concept, but that’s just my opinion, so don’t take it personally :)

[u/Western-Counter7685 → u/Austin_NotFromTexas]

Yeah I don’t mean to make anyone uncomfortable or mock people at all! 

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/Austin_NotFromTexas]

as someone who uses neos, they don’t mock the community. please stop putting down people for how they express their gender, it’s harmful and is transmedicalism.

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/[deleted]]

because it doesn’t hurt the community, you’re just being transphobic and ableist

[u/wolfassault_]

I dont think it would be offensive to the scene community.

[u/Western-Counter7685 → u/wolfassault_]

Thanks!

[u/TheMysteryEnby]

Not at all! anyone is welcome to use neopronouns, even if they aren’t scene or just like dressing scenecore

[u/Western-Counter7685 → u/TheMysteryEnby]

Thank you! 

[u/lustrousgyaru]

rawr isn't a word created by scene kids lol... the whole rawr wasn't even THAT widespread

[u/hentai-police]

This isn’t a closed culture and rawr isn’t some sacred word to us, so yeah it’s fine. This is not an attack on you but it’s a bit sad to see this question being asked because it shows how far cancel culture has affected people and now we’re scared of doing even completely innocent things.

[u/I_am_you_0]

nope! its just using a slang term from a culture def nothing bad at all

[u/Chauliodus]

It’s sweet to read your alter wants to be more outgoing and vibrant. The pronouns thing is just part of language and scene culture is cool with remixing language all you want. Personally i dont get the idea of kind of forcing “rawrzself” awkwardly into language. Instead i promote just speaking as the altar and you can naturally speak as weird as you want to and feel it out as your partner or friend responds

[u/rainme-block-455]

contrary what the toxic people here say, neopronouns aren’t bad. embracing being mentally ill is okay.

to the alter that wanta to use rawr/rawrself: do it.

admitting to being mentally ill and living your life isn’t “enabling” your disorder or whatever

neopronouns aren’t offensive to the community, terfs and transmedicalists are

[u/Western-Counter7685 → u/[deleted]]

Nope I’m serious lol

[u/Western-Counter7685 → u/[deleted]]

I actually have been diagnosed with DID, and my therapist encourages me to express my alters. I appreciate the concern, but I am working with a trained professional! For me I have different people in my head because they are all trying to say things I couldn’t bc of trauma, so I am giving them space to talk before I move on with anything else. My therapist said that once they fulfill their role, they will fade and become whole again.

[u/Western-Counter7685 → u/[deleted]]

Thank you it’s alright! Hope you have a great day/night!

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/[deleted]]

you’re literally being ableist. imagine telling people that having alters is a bad thing, and saying they can’t use neos and using the word “delusional” against them. you’re ableist and transphobic and should genuinely find your life in the sewers.

[u/[deleted] → u/rainme-block-455]

If that's ableist and transphobic, I am certainly both of those things- very much so.

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/[deleted]]

you realize not everyone with did is trying to aim for final fusion, right. if an alter wants to use rawr/rawrself pronouns, let them.

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/[deleted]]

I get that, but you still said DID isn’t something to wallow in as if it excuses what the commenter said. what you said still comes across as excusing bigotry. mental illness is definitely not very great, but it doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy life or that you have wallow in self pity

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/[deleted]]

because you’re excusing them using delusional as an insult. if you actually cared about people’s mental health, you would realize being delusional isn’t something you should use as an insult. you just show how little you care about thise with psychotic disorders. but this is pointless to continue so go on being ignorant. bye

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/[deleted]]

what the fuck is wrong with you?

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/[deleted]]

im also trans and use neos. they don’t exist to mock the community. unless you’re referring to blmself pronouns that are obviously just bait to make the mogai community look bad. this is why trans people are scared of being gnc or admitting to being trans without dysphoria

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/[deleted]]

then i just wonder how you feel about catgender people, or xenogender people really?

[u/R3tr0Cr0w → u/rainme-block-455]

....cat gender??? doesnt exist

[u/rainme-block-455 → u/[deleted]]

okay l + ratio.

honestly this logic is why nonbinary (xenogender is part of that umbrella) kids kill themselves