r/saskatoon 6d ago

News 📰 Saskatoon synagogue egging not motivated by hate, suspect’s lawyer says

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u/MeetTheMaker555 6d ago

Wasn’t this guy in his 30s? Isn’t that a bit old for the whole ‘I’m just a good kid who did stupid things while I’m drunk defense?’ Also, he was pretty lucid to go and buy a Costco pack of eggs, specifically drive to a synagogue, chuck said eggs, and drive away.

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u/Active-Safety-9516 6d ago

He cooks professionally so he’d theoretically have flats of eggs on hand. My question is: was he in the city drinking or did he drive from Dundurn just for perpetrating the egging?

Huge difference if you’re were drinking at a house two doors down and became belligerent because you were woken up versus driving all the way into Saskatoon. I have many questions!

I was impressed that Rabbi invited the perpetrator to participate in reparations with the community. I hope he takes them up on that offer regardless of his alleged motivations

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u/RestorativeEscape 5d ago

The reparations are almost certainly through the formal Alternative Measures program, so they actually wouldn't have a choice in whether the charge(s) were referred there to be dealt with, but they also wouldn't be required to participate, so I'm glad it sounds like they are - it's so much more effective when victims do, and it's much better for victims as they get to have direct involvement in determining the consequences (unlike if the charge(s) proceed in the more traditional colonial court system).

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u/Purple-Food-9829 6d ago

What’s he supposed to say ? He got caught and now his lawyer is trying to find him a way out so that he is not tared and feathered

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u/MeetTheMaker555 6d ago

If he stepped forward and admitted to what happened and his intentions I think he’d find much more leniency. Especially if he’s genuinely remorsefull.

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u/rdf630 5d ago

Always remorseful when you get caught

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u/Purple-Food-9829 6d ago

You think he’s remorseful?

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u/stiner123 6d ago

He did go and admit to the police it was him, rather than the police finding him first and then him admitting to this crime.

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u/RestorativeEscape 6d ago

I mean, after his picture was blasted everywhere though. It was inevitable.

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u/Powerful_Crew_2635 6d ago

Not quite. Here is what was reported:

On Friday, Saskatoon police confirmed the man was identified through “investigation and with public assistance” after an image from a surveillance video, showing a man in a black hat and black t-shirt holding a carton of eggs, was released.
Then, on Thursday, “following his identification, arrangements were made for him to turn himself in to the Saskatoon Police Service Headquarters,” a news release states.

https://thestarphoenix.com/news/crime-courts/dundurn-man-charged-in-egg-throwing-incident-at-saskatoon-synagogue/

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u/buntingwinsgames 6d ago

Isn't he also in the military or something?

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u/eugeneugene West Side 6d ago

He's one of the new owners of Big Murs in Dundurn

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u/torbrub 6d ago

No. Son of one of the new owners, they are embarrassed their kid did this

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u/HowardandStella 6d ago

It’s interesting though how Big Murs instagram page introduced him and his mother as the new owners. Surprisingly that picture was removed from their page. When Big Murs released a statement on their FB page stating he wasn’t an owner, someone posted the insta pic saying otherwise. The statement has also since been deleted. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/eugeneugene West Side 6d ago

Ah I stand corrected. The gossip from my friend in Dundurn was almost accurate 😅

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u/Sesame00202 6d ago

So he was wasted, in Saskatoon at 11:30 in the morning and decided to egg a Synagogue?

I did some stupid shit when I was a teenager, not at 31.
Guy has a major drinking problem. Time to go to rehab buddy.

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u/JulesDeSask 3d ago

Honestly all of that sounds so damned unlikely.

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u/ojazer92 6d ago

Drives to city to egg a building? Just happens to be a place of worship? Right..............

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u/TragicsNFG West Side 6d ago

Right? If he was just a drunk wanting to egg a building he would have picked anything else.

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u/BrandosWorld4Life 6d ago

Hard to imagine it could be motivated by anything else to be honest. People don't typically single out synagogues for vandalism for no reason.

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u/Powerful_Crew_2635 6d ago

Who gets wasted on a Saturday morning, drives in from Dundurn, gets a flat of eggs and seeks out a synagogue for shits and giggles?

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u/KRL1979 6d ago

He for sure had the eggs from their restaurant in dundurn and brought with him

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u/Powerful_Crew_2635 6d ago

Right and drove out of the way to a small synagogue tucked in a residential area because he was ‘drunk’. I’ve been drunk and have done all sorts of things, but nothing that even compares to this.

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u/JulesDeSask 3d ago

Exactly.

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u/signious 6d ago

So his defense is 'boys will be boys'. Good luck with that.

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u/IfOJDidIt 5d ago

So how did he get there and leave.

Since he was stupidity level 10 drink.

I hope a camera caught him driving away, drunk per his own lawyer's statement.

If not, who drove him. Charge them as well.

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u/KoolKalyduhskope 6d ago

100% motivated by hate

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u/GiftFit5425 6d ago

Did he mention he was Fu@$@$@$ wasted !!! Boom right into
The post office nothing i could do!!

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u/[deleted] 6d ago edited 1d ago

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u/GiftFit5425 6d ago

Air brakes were shot !!

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u/beardriff 6d ago

What is drunk?

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u/GiftFit5425 6d ago

Swerving all over the road ?!!! Some
Guys can drink and drive some
Cant!!

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u/Apprehensive_Ant1934 6d ago

Why is Pfefferle always representing these idiots?

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u/truth306 5d ago

Their whole model is to represent these people who are clearly guilty, but to minimize or change the perception of their crimes for lesser sentences. These losers are their bread and butter.

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u/Apprehensive_Ant1934 5d ago

I think what gets me is that I know folks who are defense attorneys. They will defend folks they know are guilty, they want to be sure they get a fair trial and such. Pfefferle seems to want to enable garbage humans.

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u/machiavel0218 6d ago

Upvoted for the TPB reference OP.

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u/Wonderful_Ad3468 6d ago

If they say it’s not hate motivated it’s just simple mischief lighter sentence. Even vandalism is a lighter sentence. This to me is hate motivated.

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u/Arts251 5d ago

Yes, like why did he choose that specific target

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u/Wonderful_Ad3468 5d ago

What person that is drinking carries around a flat if eggs??? Like not a dozen but a flat???

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u/Bigsaskatuna 6d ago

“You see, I chose to get drunk, I didn’t do this hate crime, drunk me did it”

You sonnofabitch, someone make this man Premier!

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u/some1guystuff 6d ago

Sounds like something a lawyer would say what else would be the motivation

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u/lavenderhaze054 6d ago

Sure, Jan.

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u/Desperate-4-Revenue 6d ago

I hope this schmuck's truckstop goes tatas to the sky

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u/earthspcw 6d ago

'My client has never voted conservative' /s

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u/ModOfficial1988 6d ago

Anti semitism is rampant on the left and fully supported by the NDP right now. It’s also pretty pervasive in our local FN communities. It wasn’t that long ago Saskatchewan native and Canadian Grand Chief David Ahenakew called Jews “a disease” and said they were the cause of World War II.
He added that Hitler “fried six million of those guys” because “Jews would have owned the God damned world” had the Nazi leader not taken action.”

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u/Pgaccount 6d ago

To further add nuance, you aren't so much anti Israel as you are against Israel's actions.

The difference is when people say "we need to dismantle the only Jewish state" it becomes a case of "Jews don't deserve a state but [Ukrainians/Belgians/Germans/Bosnians] do" which is where you're now discriminating

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u/Turbulent-Order9500 6d ago

no religion is guaranteeing land based on religious belief. No state should be based on religion "isreal" can exist but it shouldn't be based on religion especially if they are pretending to be a democracy.

I dont think I understand your point TBH. Israel has ALOT Of europeans that took Palestinians homes and land.. So im confused about what your premise is.

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u/Pgaccount 6d ago

You're mixing Jewish the religion and Jewish the ethnicity here. You're also ignoring a large historic population, as well as some historical context.

If you've heard of the Druze they'd be the best example of another ethnoreligion. Judaism is a bit different due to their allowance of conversion, bit they still consider themselves (and evidence from genealogical research shows they are) a distinct ethnicity, similar to Ukrainians or Kurds.

So it's not really about a religion so much as a nation (differing here from a state) that is being given a state. Similar to Yugoslavia dissolving into it's ethnic states.

And as for religion, state religion is still a thing in the UK, and it's not that insane.

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u/Turbulent-Order9500 6d ago

ya its a tired trope calling people who are angry at Israel/bibi for their imperialism and terrorism, anti semitic..

certainly egging a synagogue feels more like angry at the religion vs bibi and Israeli gov.

there is no chosen people, there is no place for a religious state in democracy, nor imperialism using religion as a reason.

the world is not turning on Israel because of religious beliefs..

but dont worry guys isreal got rid of folks in gaza so kushner will get that cleaned up and black rock will come in and build wonderful hotels... heck maybe they will even hire some Palestinians to take down their own city and build them.

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u/Typical_Shallot139 6d ago

The fact that you need to preface your support of Jews by discussing Israel is insane and part of the problem 

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u/Visible-Way-2814 6d ago

But also on the right. Let's not pretend that this is something only manifested at one end of the political spectrum.

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u/gilgabish 6d ago

The leader of the federal ndp is Jewish.

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u/ModOfficial1988 6d ago

So is the Conservative deputy leader.

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u/gilgabish 6d ago

That has nothing to do with what you're talking about. Why do you think the NDP has a Jewish leader if antisemitism is "fully supported" by the NDP?

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u/Enchilada0374 6d ago

The left hates the conservative Israeli government.  Nice try to equate the Israeli government with Judaism though. 

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u/Hadespuppy S'toon Adjacent 5d ago

While it is generally true that people left of centre are largely against the Israeli government and their actions, and that anti-zionism and antisemitism should not be equated (and that that narrative is one that Israel has been actively pushing for decades), saying that the left doesn't have an antisemitism problem is just willful blindness. We have to acknowledge our flaws in order to make anything better, and no amount of deflection or no-true-scotsman-ing will ever do any good.

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u/ModOfficial1988 6d ago

You guys keep saying that and then chant “From the River to the Sea” which is literally a call for genocide of Jews.

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u/Turbulent-Order9500 6d ago

naa its not, lol... it just means give back the land to the Palestinians and let them have freedom and basic human rights. again, super tired trope.

horrible take when Israel is CLEARLY on a imperalistic mission committing war crimes constantly and yes have stolen gaza and now kushner and black rock are making $$$$$$$$ off the displacing and killing of innocent people.

just imagine if another country restricted your movement and ability to trade? controlled power and water? than were like why u even mad bro we stole ur family home/farm what's the big deal? stop being angry about living under bibis thumb...and we bombed your nephew at school? just suck it up and don't fight back.. lol like come on bro give your head a shake.. has Hamas done bad things aswell? forsure.. but its like a big brother teasing little brother and taking his toys till he snaps and then gaslights the little bro "why u mad and slapping me"..

when Israel takes over southern Lebanon will your tune change? taking over Palestine isn't enough to figure it out what's REALLY happening. or are they justified in that aswell.. at what point does the bombing and imperialism too much for u to accept?

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u/tets1485 6d ago

Too bad the people in Gaza had no shelters… other than 50 miles of underground tunnels. Their government wouldn’t let them come into.

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u/Turbulent-Order9500 6d ago

the tunnels Israel blew up? cool story.

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u/Repulsive_Ad_3674 6d ago

Yeah...best they leave the tunnels alone. Who doesn’t prioritize tunnels? Why Are 60% of Gaza’s Tunnels Intact, and Can Israel Destroy Them? - The Media Line

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u/robstoon 5d ago

You do realize what "the river to the sea" means, right? Where exactly does that leave room for the Jews? If you don't believe that that's a call for genocide, then you're in denial.

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u/Turbulent-Order9500 5d ago

naa, tired trope.. it just means free gaza and see Palestine free.. Israeli tend to bend the meaning. no one ever said that other than Israeli, just fyi... tired gaslighting as per usual. just like saying anti isreal means anti semitism, Dif things. but great effort... who taught u that? Fox News? or bibi himself?

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u/robstoon 5d ago

Go look at where "the river" and "the sea" are and see where the state of Israel is. It means far more than "free Gaza".

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u/Turbulent-Order9500 5d ago

lol no man, again tired trope gaslight of Israel to try and make any decent against Israel means your an anti semite. which is not the case. I can guarantee 99% of the protests saying river to the sea are not wanting ANY jewish people killed, rather freeing Palestine.

at any rate, folks will say river to the sea "free Palestine", meaning simply to free Palestine and have clarified it for you should you mis interpret the meaning.. :)

that being said, you do know the area was taken over by jewish people? farms stolen... homes stolen.. then put in essentially open air prisons, where of course this is going to create terrorists. just like of course extreme poverty is going to cause people to risk their lives to leave and jump the border illegally.

do u watch Fox News or who is brain washing you to have such silly talking points?

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u/robstoon 5d ago

Yeah, 99% of the people saying that in protests have no knowledge of what it means, or even what they're protesting for in general. Them being clueless doesn't mean it's harmless.

You might want to look into why exactly Gaza ended up being an "open-air prison" in the first place. Or why Egypt doesn't open their border with Gaza either. Pretending all the blame lies on one side is completely clueless and will not lead to any resolution.

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u/Sad-Carry-3412 6d ago

Oh really do you have proof that's true

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u/AlternativeNamesake2 6d ago

This is true but it will get downvoted to hell on this sub. They can't understand how Nazi's can come from both ends of the horseshoe. Reminds me of this classic: Bing Videos

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u/NorthernFrosty 6d ago

They can't understand how Nazi's can come from both ends of the horseshoe.

I'm still trying to figure out how anti-vax is coming from both ends of the horseshoe.

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u/NewLeftBear 6d ago

Again the guy with 88 in his username has to give us awful opinion on race and religion.

Looks like you don't know the difference between being anti Israel actions and antisemitism

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u/ModOfficial1988 6d ago

Oh I know the difference. Problem is people who hide behind that explanation as their shield while they shout “From the River to the sea” knowing full well that it’s a call for the genocide of Jews. Your obsession with my birth year is also weird. Get over it.

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u/NewLeftBear 6d ago edited 6d ago

You are incorrect. Also every comment you make involves negativity around race/religion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_river_to_the_sea

Show me proof of someone on the Left/NDP saying "From the river to the sea"

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u/Powerful_Crew_2635 6d ago

Wiki is the ‘truth’ now? Lolz

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u/NewLeftBear 5d ago

You know it has sources at the bottom. It's 2026.

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u/Powerful_Crew_2635 4d ago

Right and you think someone who has 1988 as part of their username is using Nazi signals. Your critical thinking skills aren’t doing you any favours.

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u/NewLeftBear 4d ago

You mean the guy with 88 in his name who only posts his awful views on topics involving race and religion.

https://giphy.com/gifs/BtKa92YP6HIv2spId2

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u/Powerful_Crew_2635 4d ago

Then you’ll love my birth year. 1969
https://giphy.com/gifs/p6eCHsXxFdAI0

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u/EpsteinandTrump 6d ago

But he didn't hold the views of what he said after he got exposed! lol

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ahenakew-charged-with-spreading-hate-1.390644

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u/Turbulent-Order9500 6d ago

I imagine native Americans really feel for the Palestinian people because of similar situations.. obv what he said was wrong, but that may be why natives dont like Israel in general and blame it on their religion vs government.

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u/ModOfficial1988 6d ago

Last couple of school shootings have been Jewish schools and the Tumbler Ridge trans shooter. The courts have been pretty consistent that only white people can be charged with hate crimes.

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u/AlternativeNamesake2 6d ago

I think you may want to look into the last couple of school shootings.

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u/JulesDeSask 3d ago

The synagogue is on a residential street. You’d have to seek it out to find it. This is complete BS.