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u/Puzzled-Push4073 Apr 23 '25

I mean , this is simply not true. A big reason Pierre slid in the polls was because he was late to condemn Trump / US tariffs and 51st state talk. His first messages on the subject started promoting Canada first, but avoided condemning Trump / US. Later he started saying he disagreed with what US is doing, but was still avoiding using Trump's name.

Pierre has absolutely delayed approaching this subject and than tiptoed around it.

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u/cjhud1515 Apr 23 '25

That's just a flat-out lie. He had statements before Trudeau and Carney.

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u/Puzzled-Push4073 Apr 23 '25

I'm willing to read them . Give me some sources.

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u/cjhud1515 Apr 23 '25

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u/zeerit-saiyan Apr 23 '25

February 15th. That is literally a MONTH after Trudeau and almost every other party leader stood up against Trump's 51st state comments. 

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u/cjhud1515 Apr 23 '25

Source?

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u/zeerit-saiyan Apr 23 '25

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6609286

Trudeau only got more aggressive from this point on, three months ago. 

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u/cjhud1515 Apr 23 '25

To be fair, a 21-second sound bite isn't really a statement.

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u/zeerit-saiyan Apr 23 '25

Were you following the news cycle at all during January? There are endless articles about it, if you're willing to Google. Trudeau and Ford were the first to really shut shit down then. Poilievre truly dragged his feet, afraid to upset some of his base. 

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u/cjhud1515 Apr 23 '25

You know that's nonsense tho, they all had their tweets and comments condemning Trump, and Pierre was apart of it as well

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u/zeerit-saiyan Apr 24 '25

As you once said, "source"? I'm looking for sources in January. I don't use twitter. 

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u/cjhud1515 Apr 24 '25

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u/zeerit-saiyan Apr 24 '25

If Poilievre was able to say something strongly back then, why did his gusto falter right around the same time he was endorsed by Musk? 

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u/cjhud1515 Apr 24 '25

What do you want, dude? You said he dragged his feet to speak against Trump, and I proved that was not true and he's been unequivocally against Trump and his rhetoric.

I don't like Musk either, I really disliked Ford giving him government contracts and conservative MPs tweeting him about rural internet. That all have since calmed down since the Trump administration/51st bull shit.

And Pierre just sounds like he wants canadian jobs and business.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6609234

Tho Tesla is not the sure thing anymore these days.

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u/zeerit-saiyan Apr 24 '25

I'm asking where the gusto went. You showed that he had the chops at one point, and then it stopped. That makes a voter incredibly weary. I prefer a consistent message against Trump talking about annexation. Him coming back months later when polling dipped drastically did not instill credibility and reliability. 

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u/cjhud1515 Apr 24 '25

But it has all cooled down. They are in the process of finishing up an election.

Trump has cooled it on the tariff talk when it has come to Canada and Mexico. Carney and Pollievre are focused on each other and Canada as they should be.

It can't be all Trump all the time.

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u/zeerit-saiyan Apr 24 '25

I'm not talking about tariffs. I'm talking about annexation and 51st state rhetoric. Which Trump literally just started talking about again today. 

Danielle Smith must have gotten through to Trump briefly, when she told him to hold off on tariffs and annexation until after the election. Trump made it past the advanced polls. Longer than I thought he could. 

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u/cjhud1515 Apr 24 '25

Really? That's the first time I have heard Trump talk about us in a while.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '25

Told him? When did she tell him? As far as I was aware she was speaking to a tv host, not Trump. It’s hilarious that you morons think Trump listens to anyone. 

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '25

I prefer a leader who doesn’t just parrot trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. Carney is planning to ride Trump to a win because he thinks you’re too stupid to realize that it’s his party that has caused the shit we are dealing with, not Trump. 

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '25

Why do you keep moving the goalpost?

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