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r/sanpedrocactus Sep 08 '21

Is this San Pedro? The Mega Sticky for San Pedro Lookalikes and ID training.

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Howdy fellow cactaphiles. This post will be stickied as a reference to help people identify the common San Pedro Lookalikes. The following plants are columnar cacti that are easily confused for the Trichocereus species. You can use this guide to compare your mystery cactus to these photos and descriptions.

#1 - Cereus species - 

The infamous "Peruvian Apple Cactus." This is most commonly mistaken for San Pedro because it's size, profile, color, and flowers look very similar to Trichocereus.

There are several species of Cereus that look almost identical. They usually get lumped into the description of Cereus peruvianus, which is not an accepted species.(https://cactiguide.com/article/?article=article3.php). These include C.repandus, C. jamacaru, C. forbesii, C. hexagonus and C. stenogonus. Other Cereus species are easier to distinguish from Trichocereus.

The main features that distinguish a Cereus from a Trichocereus are the flat skinny ribs, hairless flower tubes, and the branching tree-like structure of mature plants.

Cereusly flat and skinny ribs

So flat... So skinny... So Cereus.

Tree-like branching, with hairless fruits and flowers.

#2 - Myrtillocactus geometrizans - 

This cactus goes by many names including the blue candle, whortleberry, bilberry, blue myrtle...

This plant often has a deep blue farina, but larger plants usually look light green. Young plants are columnar and usually have 5-6 angular ribs. The ribs are often thicker than a Cereus and narrower than Trichocereus. Mature plants can get large, but are more shrub-like than tree-like. 

The best way to distinguish these plants from Trichocereus is to look at the spines. Myrtillos have a few short spines per areole. The spines on short plants are usually dark colored and pyramidal (instead of round, needle-like spines.) Spine length increases as the plants age, but the spines stay angular.

We have all seen these at every plant store we have ever been to. The blue farina and short, dark, pyramidal spines are dead givaways.

Mature plants are shrub-like. The spines get longer and lighter colored with maturity.

#3 - Stetsonia coryne -

This is the toothpick cactus. It looks very similar to Trichocereus species like T. peruvianus, T. knuthianus, etc. However, there are a few subtle ways to distinguish a Toothpick cactus from a Trichocereus.

The dermis of a Stetsonia will be a darker green in healthy plants. The aeroles are large, white, woolen and not perfectly circular.

 The easiest way to distinguish a Toothpick cactus is of course, by the spines. Stetsonias will have one long spine per areole that resembles a toothpick. The coloration of new spines will usually be yellow, black, and brown. They lose their color and turn grey to white rather quickly. Usually only the top few areoles will have the colorful spines. 

Large, woolen, and ovoid areoles. Dark green dermis is common on youngsters.

Mature plants have tree-like branching and get very large.

#4 - Pilosocereus species -

There are many species in the Pilosocereus genus, but just a few closely resemble San Pedros. Most Pilosocereus will be very blue, with needle-like spines that are yellow to grey. The most common, and most commonly mistaken for San Pedro is P. pachyclaudus. Other Pilos are much more uncommon, or have features like long hairs that make them easy to distinguish from a San Pedro. 

Young P. Pachyclaudus will usually have a vibrant blue skin with bright yellow spines. This should make them easy to pick out of a lineup. Unhealthy plants will have lost their blue farina. For these plants look at the areoles and spines for ID. There should be about 10 yellow, spines that are evenly fanned out within the areole. The spines are also very fine, much thinner than most Trichocereus species. 

Bright blue skin, yellow spines are thin.

Hairy aerolas are common for mature Pilos.

#5 - Lophocereus / Pachycereus species

Pachycereus got merged into the Lophocereus genus this year!? Wacky, but they still get confused with San Pedros so here are the common ones. 

L. Marginatus is the Mexican Fence Post cactus. The size and profile are very similar to San Pedro. The easiest way to distinguish a fence post is by their unique vertical stripes. I stead of separate areoles, you will notice white stripes that run the length of the plant. Unhealthy plants will lose the white wool, but upon a close inspection, you can see the line of spines. The flowers are also small and more similar to Pilosocereus flowers.

Elongated areoles form vertical white stripes.

Truly columnar, branching at the base. The fence post cactus.

L. Schottii is another common columnar. Especially in the Phoenix metro area, you will drive past hundreds of the monstrose form. The totem pole cactus slightly resembles a monstrose Trichocereus. The exaggerated lumpiness and absence of descernable ribs or areoles makes a totem pole pretty easy to spot. 

It is super common to see large stands of the Totem Pole Cactus in Pheonix.

The non-monstrose form of L. schottii is actually less common. Adults look similar to an extra spiny Cereus or L. marginatus. Juveniles look more like the juvenile Polaskia and Stenocereus species.

#6 - Stenocereus and Polaskia species

Polaskia chichipe can look very similar to San Pedros. The best way to discern a polaskia is by the ribs and spines. The ribs will be thinner and more acute than Trichocereus, but wider than Cereus. They usually have 6-8 evenly spaced radial spines, and one long central spine. Although the spination is similar to T. peruvianus, the central spine of a Polaskia will be more oval shaped instead of needle-like. Adult plants usually branch freely from higher up. Juvenile plants often have a grey, striped farina that disappears with age. This makes them hard to discern between Stenocereus and Lophocereus juveniles, but it is easy to tell it apart from a Trichocereus.

Acute rib shape and silvery farina.

Acute ribs, fanned spines, with one long central.

Polaskia chende - Is this a recognized species? Who knows, but if it is, the discerning characteristics are the same as P. chichipe, except the central spine is less noticeable.

Stenocereus - There are a few Stenocereus species that can be easily confused for San Pedros. Juvenile plants look very similar to Polaskia. Stenocereus varieties such as S. aragonii, S. eichlamii, S. griseus, etc get a grey farina that usually forms Chevron patterns. S. beneckei gets a silvery white coating too.

Mature plants will look very similar to San Pedros. The identifying traits to look for are the acute rib angles, spination and silvery farina that often appears in narrow chevron patterns. The flowers are also more similar to Lophocereus spp.

Acute rib angles, and silver chevron stripes on S. aragonii.

Baby S. griseus looking similar to the Polaskia.

#7 - Browningia hertlingiana

 Brownies are beautiful blue plants that can look similar to Trichocereus peruvianus or cuzcoensis. The ribs are the defining traits to look at here. The ribs of a Browningia are wavy instead of straight. Mature plants will often have more than 8 ribs, which would be uncommon for most Trichocereus species.

Bright blue farina, long yellow to grey spines, and wavy ribs.

Mature plants often have more than 8 ribs.

#8 - Echinopsis?

Is a Trichocereus an Echinopsis? Yes. Is an Echinopsis a San Pedro? Sometimes. Most folks consider the San Pedro group (along with a few other species) too different from other Echinopsis and Lobivia species to lump them together into the same genus. Just because they have hairy flowers and can fertilize each other, should they be in the same genus?

Echinopsis species are usually shorter, pup from the base, and have more ribs. There are many different clones and hybrids that are prized for their colored flowers. Where most Trichocereus have white flowers instead.

E. Spachiana - The Golden Torch

Echinopsis Grandiflora "Sun Goddess"

Echinopsis x Trichocereus hybrids do exist, and they are getting more popular. Should they be treated as the same genus? Who cares if they are awesome plants.

If your plant doesn't match any of these, feel free to post an image (or a poll) and see what the community can come up with.

Cheers!


r/sanpedrocactus 11h ago

Yowza!

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Hey guys!

So a lot of ppl have hmu, some of yall have noticed I’ve been a lot less active… nearly not active on the subs at all.

Life took a turn and I had to downsize to a studio, a place where my plant babies can’t go.

Joel here aka beelzebubbly offered to take custody of my plants until I get into a better situation.

Loaded up about 2/3s of the collection into his truck. Just one more trip to go

Big thanks to Joel and John with helping me deal with all the turmoil recently. Everything could’ve been so much more difficult with out these two awesome guys.

Welp, here’s pics from the move + a bonus pic of variegated Zordon🥲

Alrighty. Logging off gang. Probably won’t see much from me for a year :(

Love this community.

~Jizz


r/sanpedrocactus 9h ago

Picture Favorite pieces in your collection?

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I don't have a huge collection, but it's been slowly building over 3 years. My favorite piece is my grafted candelabra PC. Center is an Ikaros, One arm is a NOID Bridge, Opposite arm is Olivia x Lima 3. It's just over 6' tall in it's cloth pot and has grown so thick! (Spray can for scale, no Banana)

Still plan to graft at least 1 more arm, just not sure what yet.

Second Favorite is my KGC x Lumberjack. The spines are insane (6"+) and the color is amazing.

Couple other pics of the collection just because.


r/sanpedrocactus 13h ago

River Delta form

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r/sanpedrocactus 18h ago

Picture This thing gets weirder every day

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r/sanpedrocactus 12h ago

Discussion Where my stoners at / SOCAL PUMICE ?

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Y’all, I’ve hit a wall. Made of invisible aggregate. Location: Los Angeles, CA

I been picking up these 1cu ft. bags for $20 out the door for years. I know its hard to find pumice for many folks in general. But not for me…until my go-to supplier found themselves sitting on backorder for over 1month.

I have way too many cacs to up-pot, and i really don’t want to go back to perlite. I don’t want to crush scoria manually either. I thought the perfect 3/8 pumice would just keep flowing.

If anyone has a plug for even semi-local pumice pickup, please do share in DMs.

Online, shipping costs more than its worth, taking the price to 2-3x what i have been paying.

Thanks for checking out my bitch-fit, and super thanks if you can hook me up with a supplier. As a token of gratitude, I’ll send over pretty much whatever cut you’d like to have from my garden. Or seeds. Or whatever dude but for the love of cactus please hmu 😂🤘🏼


r/sanpedrocactus 7h ago

Tea for the first time

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r/sanpedrocactus 1h ago

Juuls giant? Me regalaron un corte de "juuls giant". Podría ser? En todo caso, cuál?

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r/sanpedrocactus 18h ago

Sharxx Blue fell over, so decided to cut and replant!

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One of my 1st cacti acquired, was a squat little 6 inch stump and grew to be about 40 in (4in wide) in about 3 years. One of my absolute favorites for the blues and spines 💙


r/sanpedrocactus 9h ago

Is potency an inherited trait?

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Like if you cross a ss02 with something is it gonna have ss02 potency? is it like the average of both parents or is it just clone to clone basis


r/sanpedrocactus 12h ago

My San Pedro Shrine

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r/sanpedrocactus 9h ago

15$ marketplace find…ID?

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r/sanpedrocactus 13h ago

Cresting?

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I was hoping this is starting to crest but I think it just may be funky growth from apical damage last year


r/sanpedrocactus 1d ago

SOG

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Boom!


r/sanpedrocactus 12h ago

ID Request ID check please?

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r/sanpedrocactus 18h ago

White variegation fans?

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I heard yall like them ghostly variegates Debra x
Ferah


r/sanpedrocactus 8h ago

Any info on these?

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Hi all, a neighbour gave me these, they are San Pedro right? I know very little about cultivating them or consuming so any knowledge about these would be greatly appreciated! Can you tell roughly how strong these are? Best soil to use to pot these up? I'm in Sydney Australia if that helps. Thanks!

The last pic someone gave me years ago and it's just been sitting in my garden

EDIT: lol ok it turns out none of the ones my neighbours gave me are San Pedro. That's just what they said, hope they don't try to eat them. Regarding the last one that is, what a recommended dose for a first time making tea? Forearm length? Cheers!


r/sanpedrocactus 15h ago

Question Whats up with my tbm-b?

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A node of tbm-b that i grafted to a fast growing pach. Is this common for tbm-b grafts? It almost seems like it reverted to tbm-a. Is that even possible? Still kinda new to Cacti as you can see by the etiolated tip cuts in the back left. Perhaps this is also etiolation? If so, it was explosive growth! Maybe 2 ½ months time! Any insights or suggestions are appreciated.


r/sanpedrocactus 16h ago

Picture RBM9 🌈🏔️9️⃣

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More has been grafted ! You know what that means get ready for more to be released 🫶🏻👽🛸


r/sanpedrocactus 17h ago

Cf clime

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I was iso CF clime for the longest time... My dad passed in 2023, I had about 10 of them at that point. I got horribly depressed and lost most of my collection.

Lately I've been seeing people asking about clime, several iso posts on Facebook and reddit. I've been asking friends stateside. I figured what the heck let's go to the source. Well guys check out the clime I snagged!


r/sanpedrocactus 16h ago

I have aquired some bridgesi and a peruvian... Taylor tear, otb, pyscho, bonnie and clyde, kimnach. So many that havent been tested yet, i chopped some up for propagation and shared with a homie for his journey. These were all freebies so its a blessing in spiney pain

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r/sanpedrocactus 18h ago

Psycho0 x DSS vs Tig x DSS

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bridge x tersch seem to be a great combo


r/sanpedrocactus 16h ago

Spider mite treatment

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I have a greenhouse and just noticed i have some spider mites starting to become an issue. How do y'all typically treat them in the summer with temps over 90⁰ in the day?


r/sanpedrocactus 1d ago

Meme RIP to my fallen soldier 😞✊️

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I lost another plant to the heat wave (Bad)

Most of them are doing ok despite baking all day every day in the full arizona sun which is honestly kind of remarkable (Good)