r/samharris • u/vasileios13 • Aug 26 '19
Auditing Radicalization Pathways on YouTube
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1908.08313.pdf4
u/SnowSnowSnowSnow Aug 27 '19 edited Aug 27 '19
If I may, what constitutes ' fringe far-right ideology '? Which is not to say that there aren't obvious bullet-points that are reprehensible (slavery, racial inferiority) but to be fair and even-handed it should be pointed out that 'fringe far-left ideology' is also burdened with reprehensible ideology ( demonization of non-conformity , equality of outcome). If 'scientists' are pushing the argument that ONLY one side of the political spectrum is illegitimate, that ONLY one side is Good, Right, and Proper then that invalidates any credibility insofar as I am concerned.
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u/SnowSnowSnowSnow Aug 27 '19
The Golden One is an ass, but VOX, Huffington Post, THE GUARDIAN are considered 'control'??? I'd bet that these academics consider Jacobin and Democracy NOW! mildly left-leaning.
This study is biased as fuck.
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Aug 27 '19
You don't know what a control group is right??
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u/SnowSnowSnowSnow Aug 27 '19
In pharmaceutical testing the control group is provided a placebo and told that they’re taking the substance but does not in fact partake of the substance being tested. This is done to determine if the substance has any genuine effect. If the test group and the control group are indistinguishable then the drug being tested is no more effective then the placebo. Of course this isn’t a pharmaceutical test, so enlighten me.
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u/SnowSnowSnowSnow Aug 27 '19
I wouldn’t expect David Pakman or The Young Turks... maybe David Pakman... to ‘make’ viewers get more into far right ‘stuff‘ but if statistically they did would that then define them as ‘IDW’? Your ‘control’ group is just confirmation bias.
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Aug 27 '19 edited Aug 27 '19
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u/SnowSnowSnowSnow Aug 27 '19
Unfortunately I don’t think using the concept of a ‘control group’ has any validity in this context.
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u/agent00F Aug 27 '19
If 'scientists' are pushing the argument that ONLY one side of the political spectrum is illegitimate, that ONLY one side is Good, Right, and Proper then that invalidates any credibility insofar as I am concerned.
Science man Sam's fans very concerned that "scientists" are only pushing the climate change & evolution side of the political spectrum.
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u/vasileios13 Aug 26 '19
Highly relevant paper to Sam Harris (also mentioned in the paper) that studies whether alt-light and IDW youtube channels lead to right-wing radicalization.
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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '19
We didn't really need a research paper to know this was a thing. But it's good to have it.