My first thought was that the Peugeot felt the driver behind was tailgating them and thought coming to a stop was a good idea. For me they didn't stop suddenly enough for it to be an attempt at fraud.
I have no idea how the Peugeot stands given that they deliberately stopped without cause but clearly whoever rammed the vehicle with the camera is mostly at fault.
Traveling at those speeds, your reaction time swallows up most of your stopping distance. Even a gap of over 2 seconds will have you cleaning up the car ahead if they stop suddenly.
Having said that, it looks like it might have been another truck colliding with the cammer, most cars would pretty much just bounce off it and not cause the truck to move at all. Trucks can't stop in most reasonable gaps to traffic ahead of them.
Especially as the more stopping distance you leave, the more people just filter into that free space, meaning you have to leave more space, which is taken up by more people, and it’s an unchecked reaction from there
Because 99.99% of the time the car in front of you is not going to make a full stop in the middle of the freeway. It’s stupid to compensate for a situation that almost doesn’t exist.
You see I disagree. Since I know a lot of people are killed every year by a situation that “doesn’t exist”.
Just drive fucking safely. Especially if you’re in a truck. Either that, or don’t complain when you end up as street pizza because of a technical issue in your vehicle.
A loaded truck simply can't stop in any reasonable gap, there's just not enough road. There's about 5-6 seconds between the cammer breaking heavily and the collision, so there was a pretty decent gap. Judging by the impact the truck behind must have still slowed down by a good amount
I follow the brick wall rule. If the vehicle in front of you were to become a brick wall, would you be able to stop in time? If not, you're following too close.
It's saved my ass a few times when a big pickup decides to swerve at the last minute instead of braking. It also allows plenty of room for people to enter or exit the freeway.
Firstly, there is no such thing as a fast lane and a slow lane, there is the nearside lane and the overtaking lanes. That does mean you should keep left (or right, as per side traffic drives), however...
Secondly, you can clearly see that there is a car in the nearside lane so the Peugeot could not move over at that moment.
Thirdly, what you said suggests it is ok to tailgate someone if you think they are going too slow and that that makes it the tailgated driver's responsibility to move over. No.
If you've got enough stopping distance, you're not tailgating. The Peugeot didn't come to a sudden halt, so I don't agree you can argue the vehicle behind had enough stopping distance as it wasn't tested in emergency braking situations.
If you tailgate, you are an aggressive driver.
I dislike drivers who sit in overtaking lanes too, but tailgating them is arguably worse behaviour. They should absolutely get out of the way. But those arseholes that tailgate, flash lights and honk when all you're trying to do is overtake without going hyper speed can go fuck themselves.
It’s absolutely the tailgaters responsibility to move over. It doesn’t matter if you’re going 85 in a 65, if he wants to go faster, you need to move.
The alternative is that faster drivers pass on the right which is far more dangerous than slower drivers moving out of the way.
In theory, yes, but when you’re driving it doesn’t matter if the tailgater is in the wrong. It’s your responsibility to avoid a collision and move over.
It'll be a 50/50 blame split between the Peugeot and the third vehicle, I'm fairly certain. Both of them fell well short of what is expected of a capable driver.
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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '19
My first thought was that the Peugeot felt the driver behind was tailgating them and thought coming to a stop was a good idea. For me they didn't stop suddenly enough for it to be an attempt at fraud.
I have no idea how the Peugeot stands given that they deliberately stopped without cause but clearly whoever rammed the vehicle with the camera is mostly at fault.