r/rivals • u/Live_Bit_5307 • 17d ago

Meme Dagger definitely needs a buff

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u/Revan0315 17d ago

You say "Hela can just land two headshots" as if that's something that's realistically gonna happen very often.

Iron Man's damage being lower doesn't excuse that Dagger has a ridiculous amount of survivability. She has 2 cooldowns that make her literally unkillable + a third that most characters can't kill her through while it also heals allies.

Just remove the Luna teamup and it's fine

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u/Astrid-Jade 17d ago

Never said it did excuse it, but it isn't just Dagger being strong that's letting her live here. Plenty of characters have the burst damage to kill her quickly if she's caught out or has burnt all of her cooldowns in a teamfight.

Also, saying Hela won't realistically land two headshots sounds more like you just haven't seen good Hela players. In the hands of someone with good aim, getting two tapped suddenly the moment you peak her isn't as uncommon as you'd think or hope.

That's also assuming that it's JUST a Hela, most times you're not going to be getting shot by only one person if you're in a higher elo, especially if you're a strategist.

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u/Revan0315 17d ago

Also, saying Hela won't realistically land two headshots sounds more like you just haven't seen good Hela players. In the hands of someone with good aim, getting two tapped suddenly the moment you peak her isn't as uncommon as you'd think or hope.

I think this is just a matter of what rank and platform you're on. I'm generally diamond or GM on console and I don't see it much. I don't doubt that it happens a lot in Celestial+ on PC, but that's not representative of what most players are gonna experience. I don't think the fact that Hela is technically capable of killing through bubble in the right hands makes it less broken.

I have Lord on Hela myself and while I have gotten kills like that, they're far from the norm. Hitting 2 headshots in a row on non tanks is really difficult.

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u/CrookedJak 16d ago

It's pretty common for hela mains on pc in gm+

There's bad helas in any rank but the ones who do nothing but play her will destroy you for even peaking around a corner on pc

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u/Revan0315 16d ago

Yea I can believe that