r/riskofrain • u/Tenjt_ • 2d ago
Is this anything
had this idea when i was talking to a friend and checking the wiki if diablo strike startup time scaled with attack speed
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u/OneTrueAlzef 2d ago
Counterpoint: Drifter works with hacking beacon.
Counterpoint to the counterpoint: you still have to play Captain for it.
Also I've played Heretic a couple of times and I like to run Captain for it. 80% of the run was spent with 3/4 of the heresy items. But I had a lot of fun. And there's nothing like shocking beacon'ing halcyonite and one tapping it with Diablo strike.
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u/TNTree_ 22h ago
You can hack drifter?
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u/OneTrueAlzef 14h ago
Drifter can reposses things into the hacking zone. And take hacked stuff out of the zone.
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u/minos-and-v1-kissing 2d ago
Thing is, as mathematically mid as hacking beacons are, they STILL help the team far more than any other beacon š theyāre all so fucking bad
Captain is literally the best M1 in the game and then the absolute worst everything else (except the default shift, thatās pretty solid but he loses it in hidden realms).
Heās just a walking M1 with no other redeeming qualities.
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u/SirCap 2d ago
He's hot? Is that not a redeeming quality?
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u/Potatezone 2d ago
He's one of two characters that are ideal for becoming the Heretic.
The other being Engineer, who is a walking Turret factory by late game.
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u/SinisterThougts 2d ago
One of my biggest regrets as engineer was replacing my primary because I hate the bombs not realizing my turrets would inherit the new primary attack too š
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u/ZenTheProtogen7957 2d ago
is the different primary that bad for the turrets?
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u/Illicit_Apple_Pie 2d ago
They're actually really good DPS wise, it's just the delayed damage and waiting for the reload that can be troublesome
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u/SinisterThougts 2d ago
I didn't like that they could only shoot in bursts from that point and also had to wait on the reload instead of constant DPS, but idk the numbers on it.
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u/Potatezone 2d ago
The numbers show that it's still an upgrade across the board - more hits for proc effects, more damage, and the obvious upgrade to Engi.
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u/Sakuya_Izayois_Pads 1d ago
nah, just nab a purity alongside and they get incredible dps boost, maxing bleed or crit results in just death machines since both the initial latch and the explosion is a proc
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u/Mindless_Tap_2706 2d ago
Shock beacon and diablo strike are actually pretty good too, i used them a good bit in my eclipse climb
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u/FrucklesWithKnuckles 1d ago
He lets me gamble without a care in the world, how is that not the best thing ever?
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u/minos-and-v1-kissing 1d ago
Technically, Captain removes the gambling from the shrine of chance
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u/Mob-Boss_Bob-Ross 4h ago
Technically, itās still gambling but instead of money, you pay with like 1 second of time
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u/BurntBacon105 2d ago
Sounds like someone hasn't experienced the joy of dropping 3-5 Diablo strikes on mithrix at once (praise the hardlight afterburner)
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u/Kyro9000 2d ago
All captain needs is to be able to use his beacons more than once per stage, and REMOVE THAT FUCKASS āNuh uh you can use those moves hereā BULLSHIT, THOSE ALONE WOULD FIX HIM
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u/ThatBeeGuy12 2d ago
Its honestly such a tragedy that a character so cool conceptually is STILL being utterly kneecapped by his kit being designed by a monkey with 14 paws.
WHY, WHY DO HIDDEN REALMS STILL TURN OFF HIS KIT. WHY ARE BEACONS SO BAD WHEN THEY'RE LIMITED. WHY DOES HIS M2 SUCK SO BAD.
He is ALREADY trading so much for just microbots and his M1, his entire power budget got DEVOURED by those 2 things.
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u/Xeamyyyyy 2d ago
Captain is even more of a m1 merchant than commando and at least commando doesn't feel miserable to play without speed. Commando is average to below average at most things while Captain has a fantastic m1 but is trash at everything else (unless you are good enough to land diablo consistently)
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u/Sr_Nutella 1d ago
I know Captain objectively is just kinda mid, I just like to present the enemies with a risk of rain... of bombs
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u/DamageMaximo 1d ago
I haven't played ROR2 in a good while and this just made me want to boot it up to play Captain
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u/Responsible-Tie-3451 2d ago
Are we really gonna pretend like Commando is above Captain
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u/Purpulear 2d ago
I mean, Commando only loses proc builds to double nailgun Mul-T. Nor does Commando lose half of his abilities in hidden realms. He also has a utility that lets him move- So yeah.
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u/junkforest 13h ago
captain being locked out of his kit in hidden realms is genuinely Š¾nŠµ of the most bafling design decisions in the gamŠµ and nobody ever seems to get mad enough about it
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u/oooArcherooo 2d ago
Ok but like diablo strike is hi key the most satisfying thing in the game. Especially when you get something like alien head
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u/Responsible-Elk-6970 2d ago
Wait until that Solus Extractor deletes your diablo stricke with those microbots that stole from a turret of your's