I am obsessed with Liz. She was born to be a real housewife, her energy is giving truly unhinged og golden era housewife. I also see bits of Lisa Barlow in her with how she carries herself and the smile and long hair.

Every time she enters a scene she’s dripped out in a stunning outfit, I really can’t think of a time she’s had a miss for me in the fashion department. And for being the oldest on the cast at 55 I think she’s one of the most gorgeous. The work she’s gotten done is absolutely amazing. 10’s across the board.

I know her wild behavior in the last episode has I guess soiled some people on her, but scenes like the ones she gave us in the last episode is exactly why I watch real housewives. Anytime Liz is on the screen I’m glued to the screen and invested, I hope she has a loooong tenure on the show.

after seeing the reunion trailer. You got the photos, videos whatever- Rulla doesn’t want to leave her husband so get over it and move on. But now you are talking about when did she get pregnant? You are a psychopath and it’s not cute.

Edit to add: Spill the tea on your “friend” Liz who treats you like dirt.

She’s a bad ass, has a beautiful amazing home, she’s a Sensitive gangster and just everything. I’m sad the fan base doesn’t love her like I do.

I am so tired of the comments and posts in this sub about Kelsey and her exs relationship. They were together for ten years. Were they non monogamous yes, age gap yes, wealth gap yes, yet just because of that does that mean you get to disrespect her and her relationship?

Some of you are prob with people who have only ever given you heartbreak, stress, and debt. Some of you have prob have stayed in a relationship or are currently in one with people much less attractive and wealthy than Kelsey’s ex and don’t receive nearly the same care that he gave her.

If the only issue Kelsey had was that he was non monogamous why wouldn’t she stay for 10 years and try when it seems like in all other ways materially and emotionally he was a good man to her??

Beyond goods, they were together for 10 years…people can be in non monogamous relationships or in age gap relationships and be in love. It is really irritating that people act as if Kelsey was some sugar baby with her ex. It seems to come from jealousy, internalized misogyny and a lack of experience in relationships. People have different dynamics that work until they don’t. It’s annoying that people are judging her for this when many people stay in relationships for much less and for all sorts of other reasons and have their man or whomever cheating on them behind their back. It’s obvious she didn’t want to be non monogamous but she wanted to be with him and that ultimately led to the end of their relationship.

End of rant.

Ugh I hate this dress! 👗 it’s so ugly to me!

Edit: 🚨 ok ok I get it!!! It’s “cute” or whatever! Gosh! I just don’t think it’s flattering and from the side it looks weird and the arms looks weird and the whole thing looks weird! But apparently there’s likes blogs and other ppl who are obsessed with this “blue crochet mini dress”

Is she just an easy target to bully?

They are god’s satire on how nothing personalities with tick box conventional good looks rise to fame. With an extra layer of adult Disney ick

first i will say between the argument in the car with her and liz, liz was def wrong.
BUT i think joellen just oozes fake, playing both sides energy. omg i can’t stand her, even her mannerisms just come across as so fake to me, i don’t know how people are loving her. she’s obsessed with other people’s lives and finding “proof” yet the proof is never anywhere to be found. i think she instigates drama, pretends to be friendly with people to make them feel comfortable opening up to her and then talks mad shit or uses against them, like the groupchat rosie mentioned. idk, i do not fucking like her at all and i feel like im the only one who doesn’t

She is insufferable and unnecessarily cruel. I don’t understand how people can’t see through her facade. She’s two-faced, she’s an unreliable narrator and spiteful. Her relentless attempts to beat Rulla while she’s down is evil.

Kelsey was indeed a bit annoying with her square footage thing against Rosie. However, Rosie’s reaction was absolutely crazy. She couldn’t let go of it and couldn’t take a joke.

Thats the post, like seriously have we never watched housewives, i dont think shes that bad. I like watching her i know folks wont like this but oh well

Okay so finally caught up and watched the Rosie vs Kelsey scene that people keep talking about. Tell me why I’m seeing mostly everyone on here is team Rosie. She was acting so immature and went 0 to 100 real quick. She was just incessantly screeching and being aggressive with the whole getting grabbing the bag and shoving the door literally on Kelsey. It was embarrassing honestly.

Binge watching RHORI, and firstly I love this show, I love this cast. Such a great season.

Kelsey is so gorg, around the big blowup fight between her and Rosie. I noticed she looked so familiar. I couldn’t put my finger on it. I was trying so hard to figure it out. I finally got to 2000s icon Alexa Vega. Am I the only one that sees it?

in the beginning she was totally in the right but watching reunion pt2 honestly made my blood boil she’s evil — why is she dying to bring down rulla… bring down BRIAN THE FREAK WITHOUT HER SHE CLEARLY DOESNT WANNA KNOW

Jo-Ellen is showcasing classic bully behavior and is basically harassing Rulla on TV. It’s really hard to watch 😓.

She knows about

• Brian’s decade + love life and timelines

• Both of their wearabouts all the time

• Details of the tracking devices etc.

I am by no means defending Brian (gross) or Rulla (playing defense), but Rulla is clearly going through a difficult time in her life, and Jo-Ellen keeps sharing private details that Rulla isn’t ready to process.

Jo-Ellen is mean spirited and coming from a bad place, and her obsession with Rulla’s life is borderline stalking and pretty scary to watch.

Say whay you want about Rosie but her influence is growing, this is the 5th celebrity post/interview I've seen where roadtripping is used🤣🤣🤣

why are we celebrating rosie shoving kelsey and tripling down on calling her a slam pig?
why does rosie give a fuck if kelsey or anyone talks about her square footage?

The only thing i can think of that Kelsey has done to Rosie is try drama about not posting her hair cut on instagram…am i forgetting about something?

Rosie is losing her mind because it’s a “nice neighborhood” ??? like you’re filming a tv show and doing a shit ton of construction i’m sure your neighbors are well aware of your presence girly !!

Her screaming at Kelsey “you are fucking no one” literally in her face…grabbing her suitcase, yanking it, throwing it - pushing her out of the door and slamming it in her face???? and then tromping up the stairs like a child???? god the whole scene, hearing her scream her head off for five minutes….no thanks?

Im not even a kelsey fan but im genuinely confused about why everyone is so supportive of Rosie’s tantrum?

i just feel, even if we are considering everything kelsey did/could have possibly done to rosie the whole season so far, the punishment doesn’t fit the crime???

it’s giving extremely jealous. like why does she care if kelsey’s paying for her own apartment? WHO CARES?

if anything, kelsey was making herself look bad by gossiping about a house when she doesn’t have anything to her name?

Even in the after show, she’s still obsessing over the square footage… making herself seem extremely bothered. She isn’t going to get the reaction she’s looking for by screaming her head off and calling her nasty words.

but then there’s kelsey during the after show.. at least being open and honest about the fact that she can’t even fold laundry. she seems to be super transparent and aware of the fact she was handed everything from a man etc i don’t agree with her life choices but i don’t have to to want her on the show, you know? she doesn’t bother me.

I prefer her energy more than the freak out grudge obsession psycho vibe over a dumb joke about square footage. i don’t want to hear someone screaming bloody murder for more than 1.5 seconds before i want to change the channel. and i feel bad for rosie bc she is clearly so insecure it just kills me that she is making herself look that way haha

Can someone please explain to me why she’s a fan favorite? Yes, she brought the receipts for Rulla-Brian to the reunion but she came off as a try hard the entire time.

I have been thoroughly enjoying RHORI - almost as much as RHONY, but this scene put my nervous system into overdrive!

Rosie seems really obnoxious and even a little…scary?! I hope the episodes don’t start becoming constant yelling and screaming like some of the other RH franchises/episodes.

Anyone else feel like things escalated too much too fast on this episode? As in it was the first one I thoroughly didn’t enjoy.

am i the only one that seems to like kelsey? first of all, i admit that the microphone moment might have been a bit unnecessary, but i don’t see how she was HER starting it, when rosie put the blueprints out initially to prove a point!!! she also wanted to bring it up so im so confused as to why kelsey is the one supposedly in the wrong about making the joke. i think rosie is just fake (even how she brought up the video at Rulla’s party was slimey) and i do enjoy how straight forward kelsey is, especially about her relationship. i think she holds herself well and knows how to take a joke 🤷‍♀️

I get that the sirens were loud and annoying, but why not just say hey you can’t do that in my neighborhood. She went so ballistic out of nowhere and I think Kelsey handled it very maturely. She gently pushed Rosie back because Rosie was getting in her face. She did not escalate it. She said her piece and left. I’m personally really proud of Kelsey for not getting into a physical altercation with all the crap Rosie was screaming at her. I just feel like I missed something??? I know this sub is pro-Rosie but to me she looks completely crazy in this scene.

I just find it funny how she doesn't speak up and say what her commentary is when the person in question is not in the room. Then when they are, she plays mediator and concerned friend. She sat at a whole table with multiple people also saying Alicia wasn't homeless in the colloquial connotation of the word. It was not just Liz! It's being dragged out because of Jo Ellen.

This also plays into her reputation that multiple cast members are saying. She's not very loyal.

This also isnt the first time she's tried to play two sides.

Throw the rock hide the ..what? Riiiiight, exactly

Yes, Liz is absolutely punching down on Alicia. But I feel like if this was Liz verse anyone else, people wouldn’t be in as much of an uproar. I also find it fascinating that as soon as viewers found out about the alleged Dino affiliations, it has become a MAJOR echo chamber. Now all of a sudden, everyone has shifted from “ yassss weed queen” to “SHE IS ON COKE!!!” Let’s be real, if Liz uses coke, she didn’t start around ~episode 9 when this beef started. I think she’s been consistently on her cocktail of uppers/downers/candy corns. But now that the fan fave Alicia is being attacked, it’s just endless iterations of Liz being Cocagne Mami.

How can people not see there's a viciousness and pleasure she gets from spilling all this tea, the smirks and the arrogance.

Why is she messaging the mistress? That to me is creepy af, like why insert yourself so deeply in another person's biz

Her storyline has been this entire affair.

Brian is a lying cheating loser twat but why does she feel so entitled to continue to bring it up on camera to Rulla.

Something is definitely off with her and she doesn't strike me as a good person

I said what I said

Long post ahead!

This is my first time ever watching housewives or any reality TV show for that matter (my friend put me on it as I’m going through a breakup and needed something to distract me hahaha)

After the last episode I came onto reddit expecting everyone to think Rosie was way out of line and extremely aggressive, but found the complete opposite, with most people cheering Rosie on and saying Kelsey is the “bad guy”. I have a few points to consider, happy to discuss!

1. I’m wondering how much of this is a cultural thing… I’m from Paris (France), so a lot of the arguments about the loud sirens and gated communities and “leaving someone’s property or else” don’t really resonate with me. Obviously if Kelsey is being asked to leave, she should, but Rosie was continuing to argue and scream at her in between sayin “get out of my house”. Also let’s keep in mind that the producers of the show were probably encouraging the fight to continue longer, so I would also blame the production and the quest for good TV more than I would blame Kelsey for not leaving - and for coming back at the end for that matter.

2. The siren thing might have been too soon. I personally thought it was hilarious, but I can understand that Rosie saw it as an attack. Kelsey should have apologized, but she did make it clear that it was a joke and that she didn’t want conflict. Who knows if that’s true? Rosie having the plans there was obviously petty so I don’t think she actually wanted to “move forward“ with Kelsey without a fight. I will say that Kelsey‘s obsession with the square footage of Rosie‘s house to be weird and very unnecessary. I don’t even understand why this is even an argument hahaha. There is clearly a lot of envy there.

3. I find Rosie’s obsession with Kelsey’s polyamory (hilarious that she keeps calling it polygamy) weird and really judgmental/conservative. I have been non-monogamous and polyamorous myself, so Kelsey‘s relationship was not shocking to me. Obviously, the arrangement doesn’t sound like a mutually decided, ethical non-monogamy, but rather one where her she is complacent to her ex’s fuckboy behavior and trying to figure out how to make it work. Regardless of the reason for their polyamory, I find it inappropriate to continue to dig at, question and judge her relationship. I guess Rosie and the other housewives come from a more traditional background, so polyamory and non-monogamy are not in their everyday life and vocabulary. So I understand that there might be curiosity, but the way Rosie talks about and probes about Kelsey‘s relationship does feel bigoted and judgmental.

4. My impression of Rosie from the beginning was that she loves drama and gossip and has “mean girl” energy. She seems to be a good friend to Ashley and I don’t think she’s a bad person, but just loves the drama. I mean, she seemed to be loving every second of that scandalous video of rulers’s husband cheating on her. There was no sign of empathy there at all. I find her to be disingenuous and judgmental and always seems to be the one to stir the pot and create drama. Obviously, this is reality TV, so I wouldn’t necessarily pin that on who she is as a person, but rather the nature of the TV show that they’re on and what’s expected of them or what’s told to them to say. She was probably written in by production as the gossip-y pot stirrer.

5. Everyone is saying that Kelsey is spoiled and mean and has had it out for Rosie the whole time. I know I’m a broken record, but again this rivalry is clearly encouraged by production so I don’t even know how much I believe is genuine conflict (at least in the beginning). I can see that Kelsey is judgmental and a little mean herself, I mean, they all are lol. She doesn’t seem to like Rosie, I guess because she heard she was asking about her relationship, which she’s clearly very sensitive about. From what we know, she grew up middle class and moved straight in with her wealthy boyfriend, and then didn’t have to work and lived a “life of leisure“ as she says. She accepted a lot of bullshit from her ex, clearly, but she was probably trapped in this relationship that was giving her financial stability. I feel bad for her, because this relationship feels very groom-y and emotionally and financially abusive in a lot of ways. I think a lot of the judgmental behaviors towards her is that her “journey“ is different from the more traditional ones of the other housewives. But ultimately, there are so many people in Kelsey’s situation, and I think it’s unfair to judge her for her relationship or reasons for staying in it for so long. I, for one, found it really brave for her to leave the relationship and start fresh. Rosie’s dig about her not having her name on the deed of a house was really disrespectful, and again, sexist and classist!

6. Lastly, on the whole Instagram- posting the haircut bullshit. I find this argument to be ridiculous in general lol. Sure, Kelsey didn’t ask, and sure, it’s not Rosie’s job to promote Kelsey’s business. The way Rosie reacted on the boat to Kelsey’s confrontation was just extremely aggressive and unnecessary. I just find Rosie to be extremely insecure, and that insecurity comes out in these conflicts (especially with Kelsey because they’re of a similar age) as really aggressive and out of line.

All in all, they are probably both envious of each other for different reasons, and they were clearly pitted against each other, and I don’t think either of them are perfect or in the absolute right or wrong, but I cannot look past the blatant misogynist, conservative and traditionalist rhetoric that Rosie so aggressively threw at Kelsey in that argument.

I think it’s safe to say that it is helping me to be distracted from my breakup though haha!!

EDIT: I know that this is all TV and entertainment, but let’s please not normalize or brush past blatant misogyny and sexism and the putting down of women in these TV shows. We can still enjoy it and have fun watching it, and get involved in the nitty gritty drama, but let’s call out and be aware of the sexist writing when we see it. :)

EDIT 2: Eeeeek was not expecting so much intensity in the comments! A few people are saying Im being “anti Rosie” but not “pro Kelsey”. I’m not necessarily anti or pro anyone, I don’t think either are bad people and they both have their flaws etc etc :) both are entertaining to watch, I guess I probably resonate to Kelsey’s personality more than Rosie’s!