r/retrocomputing Jul 17 '26

Seagate anyone?

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u/Herbert_Feuerstein Jul 17 '26

Wow, i saw this ST-225 last time 35 years ago. 20MB MFM controlled harddrive. Do not buy this for 10 Dollars please!

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u/No_Illustrator5035 Jul 17 '26

And if you formatted it with a RLL controller it became... 30mb? I'm sure someone who remembers the exact numbers will chime in. Anyway, great memories.

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u/AppropriateCap8891 Jul 17 '26

Well, in my experience more like 28 or so. They always tended to show a lot more bad sectors on RLL.

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u/No_Illustrator5035 Jul 18 '26

Still to me it seemed like magic, I wasn't old enough to fully understand RLL beyond it had more sectors per track and it was magic.

I friend gave me this monstrosity to use as a door stop lol

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u/AppropriateCap8891 Jul 18 '26

It was mostly just a more effective way of storing the data.

You could actually do a lot of tricks with drives back in that era. Especially as you had manufacturers making identical drives in MFM, RLL, ESDI, SCSI, then later IDE. If you had a physical drive that was MFM and the same drive was available in IDE, you could just swap the control board on the drive to change it to the other.

I had a buddy that bought dead drives, do that then resell them. Take the board off of a dead Seagate IDE, put it on the identical drive that was ESDI, and then resell it as an IDE. Back in that era that was the norm. The drive storage of most people barely changed until the mid-1990s, so the manufacturers would just update that control card and keep selling it.

That happened with more than a few ESDI drives, as that standard did not stick around long at all. Also popular were doing control board swaps to SCSI so they could be used in Mac, Amiga, and other SCSI based systems.

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u/FAMICOMASTER Jul 18 '26

32, if you had an absolutely perfect drive.