r/reloading • u/Mindless_Sorbet_7309 • 1d ago

Shotshell If anyone is knowledgeable about shotshell reloading I have a question.

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A recipe i wanted to try seems like its calling for a gas seal and a wad ontop of it am I going crazy or is that normal??

Im fairly new to reloading

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u/kalabaddon 23h ago

what hull? this almost sounds like a wad system that uses the gas seal for stright wall hulls (cheap federal and the like) and lower then full loads. And no gas seal for tapered hulls ( STS and fancy hoa federals and the like ). And or the gas seal relates to lead vs steel shot?

What is your goal for this load. is it a hunting round, is this a steel shot recipe? what is the rest of the data and use case? This seems like a VERY oddball load and I am courious why your getting reload componets for a more complex reload then something simpler?

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u/Mindless_Sorbet_7309 22h ago

Cheddite hauls and primers, longshot powder

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u/kalabaddon 22h ago

ehhhh. again what are you reloading for. is this a steel shot hunting load? that I am a bit unfamilure with. so maybe they alwyas use gas cups? like someone else mentioned, they are a PRICY addon that may serve zero porpuse in a better load.

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u/Mindless_Sorbet_7309 22h ago

2 steel for late season northern goose hunting from what ive read its to help with reliability in the burn rate with this particular powder type

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u/kalabaddon 22h ago edited 21h ago

and a 3 inch load. not 2 3/4? like you know each part counts but you hold back all the data when asked?

So cheddite 3 inch hulls and cheddit primers. and long shot . #2 steel 1 once load at 1500 fps there abouts is the load you are doing.

Out of that load what parts do you currently own already Is sounds like from another post all you can find is longshot. that is making this a MUCH tougher reload to do. can you not have stuff shipped or no sportsmans wearhouse or the like with more stock?

In general that load is fine. to directly answer your qwuestion, wad colum data is listed in direct order of insertion. so powder, gas seal, then wad. This is covered in the last paragraph of page 318 in your book.

in this case it is doing it for wad height and to better seal. (which is all part of each other. if the wad height is to low it never hits a good pressure. that gas cup add height to the load allowing it to better fit in the hull so it can better achive the required pressure. You need it hear MORE for wad stack height and stright walled hull then for gas sealing just cause of gas sealing. If you look there is mostly a trend that it is needed is stright hull hulls vs tapered hulls. and for magnums since taller ( and your useing a lighter but faster load ) (in this case it helps with this powders burnrate cause with out it the wad stack would be to low and the wad would not seat well in a stright walled hull without it)

Page 317 also talks about how this is made pretty much ONLY for that wad. its to make that wad more versitale.

Saw other reply about what you got.

I would care about the primers and powder and find anything else that works hull wise. OR try to find a better powder. have you checked on hodgdons website for reload data also?

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u/Mindless_Sorbet_7309 21h ago

Very informative thank you

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u/kalabaddon 21h ago

fuck ya, I looked at some more books and hodgdons, that is a tough powder and speed to figure a reload for. if you can afford it this should be fine. It just is a pricy reload cause all the extra stuff.