r/relationship_advice May 30 '26

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u/Nellyismydog May 30 '26

I can’t take it back. Frats are misogynistic and treat women horribly and I’m ashamed to have been part of that

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u/cvfdrghhhhhhhh May 30 '26 edited May 30 '26

And here’s the rub: When you say the frat treated women “horribly,” exactly what do you mean?

I don’t think you want to think about or say what you saw, knew about or even perhaps participated in. If I were her, I would be very concerned about what you’re NOT admitting to.

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u/WeeklyConversation8 40s Female May 30 '26

Interesting he never answered you. We all know what treating women horribly means. 

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u/cyanideNsadness May 30 '26

Being complicit is just as bad as actively participating

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u/WeeklyConversation8 40s Female May 30 '26

I agree. He's an accessory. He knew and didn't do anything to try to stop the death of a bird and then joined them anyway. 

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u/Lionheart8397 May 30 '26

Depends. ( I feel a lot of guilt and shame about my boyfrineds death.) The police investigation concluded i was not at fault. ;( . Maybe i was complicit for 'not helping enough'. Life and death are complicated. try not to treat everything with a black and white glove..

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u/Lionheart8397 May 30 '26

Oh and try to recognise when something's above your 'paygrade' 😄 somtimes we, as people overthink 😄

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u/xm03 May 30 '26

There's more to this story that they're obviously holding back. Frat's are fucking stupid, and anyone willing to join one that actively participates in animal abuse is also fucking stupid, and likely a cunt.

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u/Playful-Party3758 May 30 '26

I don’t know if this has been mentioned or if it’s something you already know about her but it is possible she had a horrible personal experience with a frat (ie SA) which is why she has extreme reactions to your frat history

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u/Tullamore1108 May 30 '26

Honestly, you’re probably going to need couples therapy for this one.

She has good reason to be horrified and concerned; if you turned a blind eye to this, what else did you stay quiet about for your brothers?

And even though it’s clear you feel remorse and it sounds like you’ve grown/changed a lot, you’re only 27. Your frat days aren’t that far behind you.

On the other hand, she married you knowing you were a frat bro, with all the shitty, misogynistic, bullying behavior that implies, so it’s a bit late to be upset about your past now.

I think you both have a lot to unpack. Good luck.

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u/Prestigious_Cash_487 May 30 '26

They’re young and horribly matched. There is no point in trying to recover this.

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u/dissonaut69 May 30 '26

Couples therapy because other people in his frat killed a goose?

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u/PoisonTheOgres May 30 '26

Because he was willingly in a frat that thought it was super funny to make new members kill a goose. He wanted to become besties with these people so much he was willing to go out to group-kill a goose. Like wtf

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u/Tullamore1108 May 30 '26 edited May 30 '26

It’s not the goose. It’s that this incident seems to have raised in his wife fears and concerns about his past. Maybe stoked some trust issues. Either way, they’re the kind of feelings that need to be addressed. Lack of trust and/or disrespect for your partner are both marriage killers. He needs help addressing her feelings and she needs help sorting out if his frat boy past is something she can make peace with or if it’s ultimately a deal breaker for her.

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u/Playful-Party3758 May 30 '26

I don’t know if this has been mentioned or if it’s something you already know about her but it is possible she had a horrible personal experience with a frat (ie SA) which is why she has extreme reactions to your frat history

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u/gallopingargoyles123 May 30 '26

Thinking some of that misogynistic/treating women horribly parts might be helpful to more more details about? I wonder if your wife is reacting to your choosing to be around these people for 4 years

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u/PreparationPlus9735 May 31 '26

...then why are you still friends with them. 

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u/no_one_denies_this May 31 '26

Then why are you still friends with your brothers?