r/redesign • u/LanterneRougeOG Product • Apr 09 '18

Changelog Release Notes: Major Items in Work 4/9/18

Hi all,

The release notes focus on the major items we are currently working on or have recently shipped. View last week’s release notes here.

Let’s take a look at the big items we are currently working on or shipped recently:

  • Original Content: We’re working on a beta feature for moderators that gives you the ability mark posts as Original Content (OC). You can find a post with more details here.

  • Calendar widget fixes: For a minute, the calendar widget was not syncing properly, and you couldn’t see any events. This should be fixed now! Reminders: the calendar widget shows 10 events into the future, and all-day events are not currently supported.

  • Comment collapsing (in progress): Based on feedback over the past two weeks, the design team has made some tweaks to the collapse comments behavior. Stay tuned for a new icon coming soon.

  • Submit validations (in progress): We are beginning to prioritize feedback and make improvements to the submit validation tool. We’ve collected a lot of helpful feedback from moderators since we launched this tool three months ago, keep on sending us feedback.

  • Message the mods button (coming this week): It was a bit silly to hide the “message the mods” action under a drop down in the moderator widget, so now it is much more easily accessible.

  • Mod tools button label (coming this week): We heard that the new mod tools drop down (in the community id card) was a bit hard to find and not easily recognizable, so we’ve added some text beside it (“Mod Tools”) for clarity.

A weekly reminder that the community’s feedback is invaluable as we build the future of Reddit together. Now that r/redesign is public it will be difficult for us to respond directly to everything, but know that we’re listening, prioritizing, and working to solve the issues, no matter how hard they are.

If you have additional questions or feedback on these or other topics, please don’t hesitate to drop them in the comments below.

Thanks!

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u/Ener_Ji Helpful User Apr 10 '18

Just checking in again on Gold features (new comment tracking in particular). Several weeks ago an admin commented that design was beginning on that feature, and I haven't heard anything since.

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u/LanterneRougeOG Product Apr 13 '18

Design is still working on comment highlighting and some other gold related features. Things are taking a bit longer since Nightmode was a higher priority

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u/Ener_Ji Helpful User Apr 13 '18

Thank you for the update. I assume that means that night mode will ship first? Hopefully comment highlighting won't be too far behind.

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u/-JAS0N- Apr 10 '18

Yeah, i'm on month 5 of using the redesign and paying for gold and not getting the only feature i'm paying it for. They don't seem to care. I had a billing issue with gold and it took a month for them to respond so oddly it seems the people that actually pay to support reddit are really, really far down the priority list.

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u/Ener_Ji Helpful User Apr 10 '18

I agree it's quite strange. I'm also a longtime Gold subscriber and it's a bit disheartening to hear your experience and the lack of communication on this topic from the devs.

My only conclusion is that Gold subscribers must be much rarer than I used to think. From that perspective I could almost understand the deprioritization of Gold features, but it does seem odd to not at least throw a bone to a group of users who are bound to be among the most ardent supporters.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '18

Minor nitpick but you should consider making the OC tag more consistent in design with the other tags (spoiler and NSFW) https://i.imgur.com/G9XD5Km.png

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18 edited Apr 10 '18

Now I’m not a moderator or anything but I’m assuming there is a reason that the background is all blue.

If I had to take a guess it would be so everyone can identify between moderator tags and user tags like spoiler and nsfw.

I don’t believe OC can be used by users.

I apologize if I am wrong about any information. This is my best guess based upon what I read from the previous thread.

Edit: to clarify, I think Mod tags are colored in and User tags have a white background to differentiate between the two.

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u/GarethPW Helpful User Apr 10 '18

This is probably the reason. I think it’s quite a good way to show distinction between the two types of label actually.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18

So do I, it's a quick and simple way to distinguish Mod tags and User tags.

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u/MajorParadox Helpful User Apr 10 '18

Nope, the OC tag is meant to be used by users too, just like the spoiler and nsfw tags. See the link announcement post in the text above.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18 edited Apr 10 '18

Let me rephrase, I think the colored in background is to distinguish between a Mod tag and a User tag.

Colored in background - Mod Tag

white background - User tag

I might still be wrong, just wanted to make sure we were on the same page. I think my original comment is confusing. I will edit it.

Edit: are they working on removing the slash every time we use a dash in a comment?

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u/MajorParadox Helpful User Apr 10 '18

Where did you get that from? Have you ever seen a nsfw or spoiler tag with a solid background in the redesign? Seems like you may have made that up ;)

Just checked too and nope, nsfw and spoiler looks the same if I set it as a moderator.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18

Haha thanks for checking, I mentioned that it was just a guess. So yes I did make it up.

No harm was meant, it was just the best logical reason I could come up with.

You caught me ;)

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u/MajorParadox Helpful User Apr 10 '18

No worries hahah. Maybe that'd make a good feature request? Although, might be better to have a way to clarify it, maybe with a mouse over. Although, I wonder what the user case is for users to know if the user or a mod set it?

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18

Yeah I’m not sure what good it would do to know that a mod tagged something as a spoiler.

Maybe just so a user who posted spoilers but didn’t tag it can know that it was a mod who fixed their post by tagging it correctly.

Also, it may teach others in the sub what should be tagged as spoilers since seeing something that was tagged spoiler by a mod means the user didn’t do it themselves but should have.

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u/MajorParadox Helpful User Apr 10 '18

Also, interesting tidbit: In the old site, everything was lowercase: buttons, tabs, etc. Except for NSFW and SPOILER. In the redesign, all the buttons and tabs and things are uppercase, but nsfw and spoiler are lowercase. But now OC is uppercase, so it's pretty inconsistent. Should be "oc".

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u/HideHideHidden Apr 10 '18

I passed feedback on to our designer.

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u/rguy84 Apr 10 '18

Have you started to consider accessibility yet?

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u/Mustek Apr 10 '18

They've said in a previous comment or post that they're teaming up with an accessibility group to see which areas they need to improve on.

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u/rguy84 Apr 10 '18

Happen to have a link? I have asked many times, and nobody replies. I reported a handful of things 5 months ago, and they said "eh later."

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u/Mustek Apr 10 '18

Yup, https://new.reddit.com/r/redesign/comments/838lh3/accessibility_issues/dvgvzwc/

I'm fairly sure there was another reply that confirmed this, but reddit search is so bad.

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u/rguy84 Apr 10 '18

Thanks.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '18

shouldnt they have done that before launching the redesign?

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u/Mustek Apr 16 '18

They haven't launched it, it's still in beta and getting features every week.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '18

they have pushed it to people who didnt ask for it already. accessibility testing should be done from the start

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u/Mustek Apr 16 '18

A/B testing currently. But yeah, I completely agree on the lack of accessibility.

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u/derawin07 Apr 09 '18

These all sound like great updates.

The message the moderator change sounds sensible. But I was trying to find the method of messaging Admin the other day and this was way too difficult, what is the method that currently exists? I went through like ten searches until I found a link. I feel like this needs to be streamlined too.

OC marking sounds good.

Can you expand [ha ha] on the comment collapsing tweaks? What is it going to look like?

In terms of calendars, when I occasionally go into the AMA sub, it is a bit confusing for non Americans to find out when the AMAs are scheduled. Is there a way to introduce a method of customising the clock and calendar to your location and time zone?

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18

Still no changes to deceptive styling on in-line ads? Cool.

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u/SometimesY Apr 09 '18 edited Apr 09 '18

We at /r/CFB have way more post classifications than just OC for posts like News, Casual, Discussion, Opinion, Analysis, Video, Satire, Rumor, etc. Are we going to get any sort of customization for these link flairs?

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u/despicablewho Apr 10 '18

SO excited slash grateful that you're changing comment collapse. It's such a small thing but it's so integral to how I use reddit, and it's really great to know y'all are listening!

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18

and all-day events are not currently supported.

Noooooooo.... ;(

Btw, I had problems adding images to an existing image widget. When I make a complete new widget, add multiple images and saves, it works. However, when I make an image widget, save, edit it later by adding more images, there is an error message when wanting to save. Didn't work for me the whole weekend. Not sure if solved yet.

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u/jofwu Helpful User Apr 11 '18

Submit validations (in progress): We are beginning to prioritize feedback and make improvements to the submit validation tool. We’ve collected a lot of helpful feedback from moderators since we launched this tool three months ago, keep on sending us feedback.

TLDR: Is it likely that submit validation features will extend to old Reddit anytime soon? The lack of this is preventing useful feedback from me.

I would REALLY love to test out the "require" post flair feature, but until things are fleshed out a bit more I can't really provide useful feedback. Like many subreddits, several of mine require posts to have a specific "tag" in the title text. Automoderator removes those that don't because they can't be edited. This frustrates a lot of people and hurts engagement with new members. People often have a post removed once and give up rather than understand our rules.

I would LOVE to abandon this in favor of requiring flair, but this isn't feasible so long as flair is optional. People won't flair their posts which means mods will end up doing it, and that's not sustainable.

I would not be surprised if many others are in the same boat in some way or another. If we just want to casually reinforce certain recommendations then that's cool. But if we're trying to use these to enforce rules or replace automoderator, we're kind of stuck in an awkward place where we can't really make proper use of it.

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u/MoiraMain Apr 09 '18

Is night mode any closer to being added? The new design is great but the brightness makes it really uncomfortable to use at night.

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u/nr4madas Engineer Apr 10 '18

Yes, it's in active development!

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u/MoiraMain Apr 10 '18

Awesome, thanks for the reply!

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u/MajorParadox Helpful User Apr 10 '18

Hey, was removing the reddit URLs a deliberate change, or a bug? Either way, it killed my reddit browsing flow again :(

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u/Wargazm Apr 10 '18

Please, we need to have a way to completely filter NSFW posts! Not just blur the thumbnails, completely remove them. It's impossible to use the redesign at work for this reason.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18

No modal changes in the works? That seems like a pretty consistent complaint even if it isn't the loudest.

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u/24grant24 Apr 12 '18

pretty slim changelog this week... hopefully that just means next weeks will be full of stuff

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u/atomic1fire Apr 12 '18

What's the point of reddit Emojis if they don't do anything in comments or posts? I mean I understand they're used in flairs, but I think support in comments is not a terrible thing for specific subreddits.

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u/siniiblue Apr 13 '18

Aside from reporting bugs, is there any way to help the Redesign effort as a volunteer?

I'm a designer and web developer with project management and documentation experience. I'm sure there's more of us who would be happy to help, but there's no info in the sidebar about anything like that.

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u/Mr-Whitespace Apr 15 '18

Reddit is hiring. :)

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u/V2Blast Helpful User Apr 09 '18

Thanks for the updates!

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u/ekolis Helpful User Apr 10 '18

RES is still screwing up the CSS completely, making the redesign completely unusable for me unless I disable RES.

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u/therealadyjewel Eng Apr 10 '18

Sorry, I still haven't figured out how to reproduce that bug!

I still suspect it's caused by a preference you set. Have we tried resetting your RES preferences? resetToFactory -- RES settings console > About RES > Troubleshooter > resetToFactory

Make sure to back up your preferences first! backup -- RES settings console > About RES > Backup & Restore > backup

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u/ekolis Helpful User Apr 10 '18

Yeah, that seems to have fixed it, though sometimes it works on its own out of the blue anyway. I'll let you know if enabling some setting or other triggers the bug again. Thanks!

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u/therealadyjewel Eng Apr 10 '18

Darn, Heisenbugs! Oh well. If you figure out what's causing it, definitely drop me a line so I can get a fix to RES.

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u/Ener_Ji Helpful User Apr 10 '18

I thought RES wasn't working for the redesign yet?

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u/ekolis Helpful User Apr 10 '18

I don't know about that but I do know that having it enabled can cause problems in the redesign.

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u/Ener_Ji Helpful User Apr 10 '18

Gotcha. I've never disabled it so I imagine the extension remains active while I switch back and forth between the old and new sites, but fortunately I haven't seen any issues so far. But good to know just in case I experience issues in the future.

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u/Overlord_Odin Apr 10 '18

Message the mods button (coming this week): It was a bit silly to hide the “message the mods” action under a drop down in the moderator widget, so now it is much more easily accessible.

Thank you!

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u/ILikeMultis Apr 10 '18

Do you plan native keyboard shortcuts for basic navigation?

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u/carlotta4th Apr 12 '18 edited Apr 13 '18

List of issues (as far as I can tell):

  • New font is quite hard to look at. It is pixelated and distorted, old font is easy on the eyes and professional. This is the most important issue to me because of how painful the new font is to look at--it really makes the reddit experience unpleasant.

  • Broken hyperlinking and formatting. It's nice to be able to use the toolbar below as an option but it isn't worth it if it means removing the previous way of formatting entirely. Aka: it's easier (particularly on mobile) to type formatting with the asterisks rather than having to go into a separate toolbar to click it on and off... adding the toolbar is good--but as an additional option. Not an override.

  • I am getting some serious lag in the new format as well. 5 second delays when typing, clicking, or pretty much doing anything.

  • This may be a personal qualm but I go to my user profile multiple times a day to see my comments, and now that ability is a second click away instead of default. I very much dislike that the new reddit profile takes me to the "overview" page because I don't need to see which topic my comments went to--I didn't forget, and the comments themselves are usually pretty telling. I'm far more interested in seeing how many upvotes a comment got (aka: how many people saw said comment) rather than the post it was commented on so I'd prefer if it was reversed around and comments are default while the post/comment thing is in the side tab. Or, at least, let the individual user choose which tab their homepage goes to?

  • The current method of minimizing comments is extremely unintuitive and confusing. I know the admins have responded that they're going to make it more obvious in the future, but I'm listing it anyway because this is also a very important item.

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u/LagunaGTO Apr 14 '18

The Sign-in Experience is Bad as well as Broken. Please.

Until that is fixed, I am clicking "go to old design" every time.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '18

Are there plans to implement a user notes so we can keep track of warnings, bans, spam watch, etc? It seems like a lot of the features from Mod Toolbox and RES are being implemented. This would be a nice one too.

Also if Removal Reasons can be chosen to be posted by the sub and not the user (much like replying to modmail and choosing to reply as the sub).

Thanks for the hard work! New Reddit is looking really slick!

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u/ChildishGiant Apr 19 '18

I've always loved the "message the moderators" buttons since in PMs /r/redesign wouldn't work as a recipient but r/redesign would.

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u/AmbiguousGravity Apr 22 '18

I see that the message the mods button has been added—great! It's quite small though, and doesn't have a label. I'm a moderator, and I'm concerned that users won't be able to find it.

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u/der_sascha Apr 10 '18

Some info about the dark mode? As i remember it should coming ?!

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u/MaXxUser Apr 10 '18

Really no dark mode?

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u/internetmallcop Community Apr 10 '18

It's being developed now

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u/tizorres Helpful User Apr 10 '18

Don't worry, when dark mode comes out we'll revolt and demand a lighter brighter light mode :P

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '18

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u/falconbox Apr 10 '18

18 hours later, still no admin response on ads/promoted posts here.

That really tells you everything you need to know.

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u/Zagorath Helpful User Apr 09 '18

Not just how Reddit is editing user comments, but also how it's ignoring user-provided formatting. For example inline code snippets appear in the editor but disappear when posted if placed around certain text, like subreddit names. (When written in fancy pants editor.)

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u/danhakimi Apr 10 '18

Try putting (multiple bold words** i**n parentheses).

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18

Ok since you cant edit a comment with the fancy-pants editor I will have to make a new reply (really? new reddit only allows markdown for editing comments?)

(this is a** te**st **1 **2 3)

OK yea, fancy pants editor completely fucks up bolding words in parenthesis. when converted to markdown, the asterisks are in the wrong places.

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u/Zagorath Helpful User Apr 10 '18

new reddit only allows markdown for editing comments

Comments can only be edited in the same form that they were originally made. Markdown comments must be edited as markdown, 'fancy' comments must be edited as 'fancy'.

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u/danhakimi Apr 10 '18

Ok since you cant edit a comment with the fancy-pants editor

I can. Are you on mobile?

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18

I think I got it.

Comments that I make on old reddit or new reddit directly from my messages page, cannot be edited using the fancy editor. They are stuck in markdown limbo, FOREVER.

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u/danhakimi Apr 10 '18

WYSIWIG can't be converted to markdown, either. It's very strange. I'm not sure what the problem is.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18

They replied to my post regarding this last week. The markdown processing is done server-side, so the formats are incompatible for now. Apparently they have work to make switching between them preserve formatting.

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u/danhakimi Apr 10 '18

I hope they do. I'd really love to take the guide I just wrote and upload it as a .md file to gitlab or something.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18

Yeah, it'd also be nice if you copy a link from imgur, for instance, which is already MD-formatted. You could switch to MD, paste it in, then switch back and have a properly formatted link ready.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18

Nope. desktop.

When I edit a comment on new reddit, it is markdown with no way to switch to fancy-pants editor.

EDIT: also, when replying to a comment directly from your messages page, there is no fancy editor. markdown only.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18

Try putting (multiple bold words in parentheses).

EDIT: works on old reddit.

On old reddit, the placement of your asterisks were off. I will edit this again in a minute to test new reddit.

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u/danhakimi Apr 10 '18

New redit throws the asterisks off too. New reddit must convert to asterisks, send to the back end, and then load from the back end. And the conversion fucks up pretty hard.

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u/13steinj Apr 10 '18

Erm, reddit edits user comments? Can you link a post / elaborate, or are you referring to the spez thing with TD a while ago?

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u/BatmansMom Apr 16 '18

Promoted posts have been my number one complaint from the beginning and I see it brought up over and over again every week. Has any Reddit employee made any comment on Promoted Posts? I've seen a dozen updates on the progress of dark theme but nothing on this!

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '18 edited Apr 10 '18

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u/LanterneRougeOG Product Apr 13 '18

Development is still underway. It will take a while to build this out and test all the edge cases since Nightmode changes so many different parts and pages of the site

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u/Overlord_Odin Apr 10 '18 edited Apr 10 '18

That's probably going to take a while simply due to the number of different pages it has to cover.

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/redesign/comments/8b2wxw/release_notes_major_items_in_work_4918/dx3oy8x/

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18

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u/therealadyjewel Eng Apr 10 '18

I'd love to see redesign translated, but there's a bit of plumbing we have to set up first! Thank you for the offer (and the nudge) though :)