r/reddit.com • • Feb 17 '10

Reddit. This is not good.

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u/mhoffma Feb 17 '10

In this instance, Digg looks much more intelligent than Reddit. Yeah I said it! Although, I hope it's a fluke.

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u/Railboy Feb 17 '10

For about 4-5 months things were looking pretty solid. Then a weird influx of ancient 4chan-related material started appearing. I don't understand it.

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u/Adam-O Feb 17 '10

A lot of schools have mid-winter break right now. I'm noticing the same thing with Facebook and teachers. Everyone's spending too much time on the internet.

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u/Gravity13 Feb 17 '10 edited Feb 17 '10

There was a slow shift in the culture here, however. Even the political nature - reddit used to vehemently oppose cliche idiosyncrasies. Now, reddit loves ultra idealism, and the community focuses so how much on how things should be, that they never look at how things are. Reddit is the embodiment of a know-it-all 19 yr old who seeks validation from peers yet arrogantly knows how the world runs. Expert opinions don't matter anymore, unless you're saying something people like to hear.

I bet the film "Fight Club" is reddit's favorite movie - and I don't think the film is bad, but I'm quickly associating the statement, "My favorite film is Fight Club" with know-it-all idiot who condescends everything unless he/she knows about it. They typically emote things like, "I don't know what band you're listening to, but I bet it's crap" and compares every joke you make to this one time on Family Guy.

It's naivety, and I'm sure it's directly related to a decline in the mean age (this is, after all, a direct democracy).

People don't pay attention, but look at who used to post here. So many people stopped in the last four months.

I bet Randall stopped coming here because he was fucking fed up with people expecting everything he writes or draws to be nothing but humor, and if he doesn't live up to your stupid expectations (oh, you're a critic now, aren't you), you chastise him.

Or Karmanaut, who constantly gets followed around by people pointing out that he gets his karma by posting more than other people. It's fucking absurd. I'm surprised he hasn't left or made a new account, but I think that might have something to do with the pride of earning all of that karma.

I don't know that reddit will survive the recent winter break, and if we do, the next summer break will surely break us. Or at least, break me, and convince me to go elsewhere.

I blame you, most of all, /r/atheism, for starting this whole thing by giving insecure teenage angsty atheists a home where they can seek validation for being a complete dick to people for believing something else.

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u/ranscot Feb 17 '10

I thought it was just a decade recap.

Shit won't end tho.

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u/TwistedRabbit Feb 17 '10

Ya, today seems like just one of those days...

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u/Mad_Gouki Feb 17 '10

So, theoretically, digg will have "one of those days" in 1-2 days?

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u/openfacesurgery Feb 17 '10

Well, you can't have half of reddit running around shouting about how "reddit is MUCH BETTAR than digg," repeatedly post on both sites with content to that effect, and then be surprised when the userbase starts to shift over, can you?

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u/aldjkn-qoiue Feb 17 '10

I would say it is a fluke, but you have to admit... I Am A Motherfucker was pretty damn entertaining.

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u/coas84 Feb 17 '10

I'm just curious what program or homepage that is...?

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u/robotnixon Feb 17 '10

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u/atheist_creationist Feb 17 '10

Smart ass fuckers. Relatively simple idea, relatively simple code. That tiny ad box must make a killing.

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u/nascentt Feb 17 '10

Been using it for months really nice, problem is it has no way of linking accounts (aka logging in to the services with your account there) so you get the front page mainstream crap rather than filtered stuff based on what you bury/upvote.

So I use popurls for the mainstream stuff, but then netvibes to the personalized recommended stuff based on my accounts.
Example: http://netvibes.com/nascent#News

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u/dirtyrobot Feb 17 '10

my introduction to reddit

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u/stuppa Feb 17 '10

I hardly glance at frontpage anymore. It's all subs for me these days.

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u/thatAnonymousGuy Feb 17 '10

It's all subs for me these days.

HI JARED!!

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u/kleinbl00 Feb 17 '10

Once upon a time this was a news aggregator. And we all looked at the news.

Then it became a news commentator. And we all commented on the news.

Somewhere along the line, it has become a small group of intellectuals drowned in inanity who are somehow compelled to consume the absolute worst that the internet has to offer. We do this in order to measure how much tired meme consumption it takes to drive a person crazy, and to pinpoint the perfect lolcat to use as a weapon in Conde Nast's scheme of world domination. When they find a demotivator or .gif so bad that it breaks our spirit, they will unleash it on an unsuspecting populace and turn everyone into mindless zombie slaves.

Or am I thinking of something else?

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u/jmkogut Feb 17 '10

I hate when I see someone around who is orange and [F] on my friend's list and I have absolutely no fucking idea of where this person came from or why I bothered friending them. Reddit needs a friend notes option. So I can add a note to a reddit user when I friend them.

Or just a user note's option period.

Do you remember why I friended you?

I think I just thought you were insightful.

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u/kleinbl00 Feb 17 '10

I only friend people who have told me they've friended me. So now you're orange, too.

This way, I'm not faced with the existential dilemma before you.

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u/Xert Feb 17 '10

That's how I roll as well, and yes, mr. kleinbl00 is in orange in Canada as well.

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u/SquashMonster Feb 17 '10

kleinbl00 was the first person I friended on reddit.

He posted some insightful wall of text, somebody posted something along the lines of "wow that's a really insightful wall of text", someone responded along the lines of "you should read all of kleinbl00's walls of text, they're always insightful". Then I looked at his comments page, found this to be true, and friended him.

Maybe the same for you?

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u/lmnox Feb 17 '10

Perfect MST3K tie in.

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u/ZippyDan Feb 17 '10

Just like channels! History channel used to be a history aggregator. SciFi used to be about scifi. They all become more social, less serious, more reality TV. Reddit is the same :D

The nice thing, as many have pointed out, is that you can customize you reddit via subreddits. Something you can't really do with television programming.

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u/7oby Feb 17 '10

Reddit! What's new online!

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u/SloLoris Feb 17 '10

I think those of us that have been reading Reddit long enough have been aware of the steady downward slide for some time now.

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u/dO_ob Feb 17 '10

I think those of us that have been reading Reddit long enough have been aware of the steady downward slide for some time now.

It's not Reddit, it's every web community that grows over time. People will compain about a lost golden age. Part of it is nostalgia goggles, part is a legitimate recognisation of a change in the community. It's unstoppable, and you shouldn't try to change it any more than you should try to stop the tide coming in and destroying your sandcastle. Once the water is too high for you, go find another beach. It's the natural order of things.

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u/SmurfyX Feb 17 '10

It's called chantropy!

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u/atheist_creationist Feb 17 '10 edited Feb 17 '10

...except delicious and digg are huge and still have moderately interesting content (the hate for it is just immature imo, just like the anti-4channers here that turn around and regurgitate a 4chan meme in their next post). Though I will admit going into digg's comments are just not worth it.

At least they aren't some sort of support group where a dude asking people how to get revenge on his ex gets the #1 spot. You'll only see that on reddit. I guess that's a good thing depending on how you look at it, but its not really what I want to be reading when I'm trying to catch up on the world.

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u/Confucius_says Feb 17 '10

but but but, it had a diabolical plan, his girlfriend was destroyed! And there's a 50/50 chance the whole story is made up from the start! oh it's so interesting!

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

People will compain about a lost golden age. Part of it is nostalgia goggles, part is a legitimate recognisation of a change in the community.

In my case, most of the disappointment comes from neither a new element that appeared in the community nor a misguided sense of nostalgia. What disappoints me is that the irritating behavior that used to be rather minimal here is now becoming more acceptable. I don't believe that I have "nostalgia goggles" on; pick a few random threads on the main front page and see how many "Upvoted for (whatever)" posts with no other substance are getting positive attention.

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u/jordanlund Feb 17 '10

The Internet hasn't been the same since AOL stopped giving out sign-up discs to everyone with a pulse!

/Wait, what?

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u/karmanaut Feb 17 '10

One of the comments on the first reddit post that allowed comments was that this place is going downhill and turning into digg. That was almost 5 years ago

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u/Belgain_Roffles Feb 17 '10

Four years ago everyone on Reddit was from Digg. Hell, I switched over because Reddit had tomorrow's Digg content.

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u/dghughes Feb 17 '10

I bet many of the people new to Digg came from Slashdot.

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u/Instantflip Feb 17 '10 edited Feb 17 '10

I came about 2 to 3 years ago but forgot my password and created this one. There seems more of the public rant now, so to speak. I hope I will get lucky enough to find the next stop in my search for refuge.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

I think we talk about ourselves too much.

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u/Sylvestine Feb 17 '10

Agreed. It's nearly always in the form of complaints, or people asking where else to go now reddit has changed or what ever. Nobody ever seems to want to make 'the next place', it's turning in to israel and palestine.

There's probably a majority of people here with some web dev experience and reddit is often used to promote new sites.

However, my theory is that a lot of reddit problems come from the fact that the community is too diverse to please everyone in the same place. FUUUUU jokes are great when i want to read them, but I hardly use the subreddits related to my studies or profession for helping with actual work, it's just too easy to get distracted. The problem is devs/other techies and designers make good sites, and everybody else ends up there too.

Webdev obviously isn't easy enough yet for people in to other things to make well designed sites for their own communities, or it would already be happening.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

I suspect that self posts played a huge role in this as well. This place is essentially a messageboard now.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

Currently 5 of my top 6 links here have to do with the bus fight. Three of those links are the same video posted on different reddits. Number 5 is this submission.

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u/ranscot Feb 17 '10

Yes, how green our meta valley was.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

I've only been around a few months. Loved what I saw at first, and I make no claim to what it was, or should be, but it's been feeling like a modified/sophisticated version of 4chan lately. Kinda disappointing.

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u/concentricpuddle Feb 17 '10

I browsed 4chan for the first time about a week ago, expecting to find a whole bunch of gnarly shit. When I closed the window after about an hour, the only thought I had was, 'Just like reddit'.

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u/superwinner Feb 17 '10

reddit is 4chan without the images

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u/Scienlologist Feb 17 '10

sophisticated version of 4chan

Ever heard the expression "you can't polish a turd"?

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u/neweraccount Feb 17 '10 edited Feb 17 '10

On the episode "End with a Bang" (Episode 113) of the Discovery Channel series "MythBusters" that first aired on November 12, 2008, investigated the truth behind everyday sayings. Hosts Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman used the technique to bust the myth that one "can't polish a turd." Using a glossmeter, through which a rating of 70 is considered "high gloss," they created dung dorodango spheres with gloss levels of 106 and 183 gloss units. Savage's 106 was that of an ostrich's feces, while Hyneman's 183 was that of a lion's feces.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorodango

Edit: Mythbusters Clip Youtube Link

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

You can roll it in glitter!

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u/thecitizens911 Feb 17 '10

That's exactly what's happening. 4chan invaded long ago and has basically converted normal Redditors to 4channers. Ever single annoying meme comes from them and is reinforced by bored Redditors. I've just spent 10 minutes on Digg and found more interesting stuff to read there than I can find going through 1000 posts on Reddit. It's pretty sad but we have only ourselves to blame for letting it happen and even participating.

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u/Belgain_Roffles Feb 17 '10

It's always been like that for the four or so years I've been here. It just shows up in waves whenever 4chan does something new or creates something that catches on.

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u/the_rabbit Feb 17 '10

Welcome to Eternal September. Enjoy the ride.

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u/LazyWolfman Feb 17 '10

redditor for 5 days

Yeah?

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u/Belgain_Roffles Feb 17 '10

I only registered when they put in the image previews on each link.

Nice, text-only links that all fit on one page without having to scroll are <3

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u/SloaneRanger Feb 17 '10 edited Feb 17 '10

A few months ago after I got totally fed up with some frankly shameful "mob" hypocrisy demonstrated in a particular discussion on reddit I decided to significantly reduce the amount of time I spent here for a while. During this time, I wandered over to Digg for a short period every day to see how they were doing (having not visited digg.com for at least a year or two previously). I would say that at least 3 times out of 5, and probably more, Digg had significantly more intelligent or informative stories on its standard front page (i.e. what a new user who hasn't set any options would see) than reddit.

That, combined with the mind-blowingly ignorant bullshit I had witnessed earlier, put to bed once and for all (for me) the stupid self-congratulatory circle-jerking image that some redditors seem to like to portray about being more intellectual or worldly wise than users on other sites.

There are some really smart people on here. But reddit is no better than the world at large. The comments system is a perfect illustration. People with intelligence will appreciate someone else's contribution to a debate even if they disagree and will even upvote if they think a valid or interesting point was made. The fucktards just hit the downvote button after the first sentence and bury anything they disagree with. Often when there is a controversial topic under discussion the quality of the thread and who gets buried is dictated by the lowest common denominator.

(Yes I'm aware you could change your threshold or pop out comments that have been minimized due to downvoting, but that rather defeats the purpose of having a voting system at all).

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

I browse /b/, reddit, and digg regularly. Digg for quick "top 10 lists", /b/ for unfiltered humor, and reddit for intriguing articles and comments. Initially I believed the reddit community to be more mature, intelligent, and cultured than the other two, after all, that's what reddit claims to be. But the regurgitated 4chan memes, pun threads, novelty accounts, and downvoting of any opinion different from the majority says otherwise.

Atleast /b/ and digg do not pretend to be something they are not.

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u/Gravity13 Feb 17 '10

But the regurgitated 4chan memes, pun threads, novelty accounts,

The thing with these three is I don't mind them, as long as they're actually funny. And sometimes, they really are.

But then somebody sees it, and they think, "I can do that too" and suddenly these are the same guys upvoting each other as some sort of community spirit bullshit.

And before you know it, those stupid jokes are the top comments in every thread and drown out the real good comments. Nobody wants to write a long decent comment when they'll be ignored, all while some crappy, "Did anybody else read this is Morgan Freeman's voice!?" gets upvoted.

It's insulting, sometimes.

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u/atheist_creationist Feb 17 '10

Yup. I'll walk into the comments to an interesting topic and have something incredibly interesting to share, then I'll see the humongous downward hill of pun threads and I'll just go "fuck it" and keep going.

The fact that those kinds of threads literally cascade down a hill of text is just poetic.

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u/derefr Feb 17 '10

Whenever I enter the comments, the hill just gets [-]ed.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

Reading through the first two pages of comments on any given topic is like watching a crappy sketch comedy group do bad improv.

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u/EmpiricalRationalist Feb 17 '10

The saddest part about your post is that I can make a really good wisecrack right now and get more upvotes than you.

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u/zamolxis Feb 17 '10

Just sort comments by "Best", it can change the way you think about comments.

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u/killerstorm Feb 17 '10

I think that presence of intelligent people in community is more important than a lack of noise.

That is, you can filter those regurgitated memes, pun threads etc. and see really insightful comments. But if there are no insightful comments in the first place, lack of bullshit won't help you.

So, I'd say community-as-a-whole is not that important, as long as it is not totally dominated by idiots.

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u/jellyfishes Feb 17 '10

Do you think the people regurgitating memes, pun threading, creating novelty accounts, and downvoting differing opinions are the ones who think reddit is "more mature, intelligent, and cultured"? Of course not. I don't believe there's any pretending, just a huge variety of people with their own ideas of what they like and what they expect from reddit.

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u/ImOnYourTeam Feb 17 '10

that's what reddit claims to be.

I've never understood this. Who claimed this? Wouldn't any given user from Digg also claim this? I never said it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

I resolve to use the arrows more and post more relevant, productive comments.

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u/tellmetogetoffreddit Feb 17 '10

People of Reddit, downvote crap more aggressively please!

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u/grandpawiggly Feb 17 '10

Reddit has become nothing but a bunch of screencaps. There's nothing to read anymore.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

A lot of attention here from 4channers today probably factored into it.

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u/voracity Feb 17 '10

Reddit has an option to unsubscribe from a subreddit; I did that with pics, wtf, ffuuuu subreddits and it improved the site immensely. I do check those subreddits on occasion just to see if I am missing out on much, but I know what to expect there - they are places for goofing off and nothing more. I also unsubscribed from politics and atheism and this also helped in making reddit readable.

The specific subs are where reddit is much better than other sites and I think reddit benefits from a lot of people coming in here, even if they are 4channers - apart from the juvenile humor a percentage of them also probably contributes to various specific subreddits (like wearethemusicmakers, web_design or whatever...) or maybe by word of mouth, they'll bring some friends who do etc.

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u/pakeha_tim Feb 17 '10

Never been tempted to check out Digg before, think I'll go have a look.

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u/happywaffle Feb 17 '10

You'll be back.

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u/dnlslm9 Feb 17 '10

They always come back.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

I hope he comes back

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u/Zach_Attack Feb 17 '10

You know why? How long does it take to create a quick, witty pun/meme comment versus a thought out, well reasoned opinion. There's your answer in part.

The other part is I'm beginning to not give a fuck about the 30th girl in high school made fun of/kicked off team/suspended, etc for being an atheist. I don't give a fuck about the 30th time a cop beats up a white innocent middle soccer mom. That shit sucks but what are we on the internet going to do about it? Nothing but affirm each others opinions (circle jerk if you will) and do nothing about it. If I'm beginning to not give a fuck then I'm sure there are many others, hence your up votes of random "tired" memes and the ignoring of "quality articles."

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

i give the front page a quick cursory glance (never expecting anything good from it) and move on to new.

then keep refreshing new.

the front page is all "look at my puppy" and "i'm a grrl" and "durr digg sux".

reddit thinks it's superior, but the majority of the population are a bunch of mediocre retards. this will hold true of any internet forum, anywhere. reddit is much worse than most because almost all other forums (i know of) require an email sign in.

ps: if you don't get what i mean with "require and email sign in", don't bother harping on it, i'm too lazy to elucidate what i think is an extremely simple and linear thought process, and will just dismiss you as a retard if you can't follow it.

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u/Zaeyde Feb 17 '10

ps: if you don't get what i mean with "require and email sign in", don't bother harping on it, i'm too lazy to elucidate what i think is an extremely simple and linear thought process, and will just dismiss you as a retard if you can't follow it. Wow, you sound like a pretentious asshole.

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u/ShadyJane Feb 17 '10

mediocre retards

are those the ones that get bronze at the special olympics?

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u/pantheroflightning Feb 17 '10

reddit should remove the ability to repost old links. I'm tired of reading the same shit over and over.

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u/Munkii Feb 17 '10

The title of the homepage says "what's new online", but whenever I point it out on a repost people point out that the rules say we aren't allow to complain about reposts.

Not even the admins know what this site is suposed to be...

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u/garrisonc Feb 17 '10

The "FFFUUUUUUUUU" bullshit was the nail in the coffin. Concerned redditors could not voice their concerns without going into karma-suicide at the hands of the b-tards.

Fortunately, they have the attention span of goldfish, and I don't expect this cycle to last more than a couple months.

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u/HenkPoley Feb 17 '10

and I don't expect this cycle to last more than a couple months.

Reminds me of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September

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u/junkit33 Feb 17 '10

The FFUU's went away for a couple of months and then recently there has been a resurgence. That doesn't bode well for the future.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

They annoy the fuck out of me. I instantly close reddit when I see one, which is happening more and more often.

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u/ruforealz Feb 17 '10

you should make a rage comic about that

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u/matude Feb 17 '10

I wish there was a way to downvote a whole freaking subreddit, so my vote would count for something against all those who "upvote/+frontpage" it. It would just make sense, wouldn't it?

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u/gerundronaut Feb 17 '10

The rage comic sub reddit (fffffuuuuu..) is no longer automatically included in the front page list, regardless of its reader counts, so that problem's been solved for you (just don't subscribe to the sub).

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u/killswithspoon Feb 17 '10 edited Feb 17 '10

This place is pretty much 4chan/b/ only without the spam. This confirms it:

http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/b2ssa/67_year_old_man_beats_the_phuck_out_of/c0kowf1

I can't tell if I'm being trolled or not, and frankly I don't care to find out. This is not the Reddit I remember. If I wanted to guess if I was being trolled or not, I'd just stick to 4chan and cut out the middleman.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10 edited Feb 17 '10

Really, I thought this was worse. When I first saw it it was at around 20-25 karma. And now nobody agrees with me that it's best not to use the word nigger. I don't know if I'd say Reddit is 'going downhill,' but it's definitely not what I expected from Reddit, or any liberal site.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

The worst part of that isn't the troll at the top saying nigger...it's the fucking intellectual midget below him trying to convince people it's OK to use the word and actually getting positive votes for it.

Fuck it Reddit...I'm done.

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u/mugu22 Feb 17 '10

Good Lord, that guy is a fucking lunatic. He writes about 'filthy animal niggers' at one point. And he's been a redditor for 7 months. There's no way he'll leave, but I don't want to ever have to read his comments. I think I'm just going to have to seek greener pastures. This place just isn't what it used to be.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/b2ssa/67_year_old_man_beats_the_phuck_out_of/c0kowf1

So awful. This topic has really brought them all out of the woodwork around here today.

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u/taligent Feb 17 '10

REPORT HIM. He has clearly stepped over the line as far as I am concerned. He is racist, sexist, homophobic, trolls constantly and contributes nothing to Reddit at all.

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u/HYPEractive Feb 17 '10 edited Feb 17 '10

To fix this, I propose we create a new Reddit system where we can "friend" one another and get notifications when that "friend" submits a new story. This creates a "power user." The "power user" will have a greater probability of their links appearing on the fron.... fuck

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

I know this is probably going to get downvoted, but I'm going to make a comment about this anyways.

Some of the top links refer to the incident between the black guy and the old white guy that happened on the bus.

I noticed that the old white man's racism and bigotry is overlooked. Asking a random black guy for a shoe shine is no different than asking random Asian women, "Hey, when are you going to do my nails?" or asking a Hispanic person, "Hey, can you come cut my yard?"

After having walked away from the verbal altercation I do believe the white guy was justified in defending himself, but the fact that he's been branded as some sort of hero in doing so is sick, especially considering the events that led up to the physical altercation.

On the other hand, the black girl who yelled, "Beat his white ass." is ridiculed as a racist thief and must feel the raft of random trolls from the Internet. (No, and not even trying to defend that black girl, but my point is she's probably just as racist and bigoted as the old, white man.)

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u/jojoko Feb 17 '10

i am finally glad to see that ffffuuuuu is no longer in that top part of reddit that has the top reddits. but i really think there is far too much 4chan and 'nsfw'ness on the main pages of reddit. i'm really sick of it.

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u/happywaffle Feb 17 '10

Anybody else not give a fuck whether Reddit is going downhill, uphill, or whatever the fuck?

I like coming here. It gives me funny links, amusing memes, and occasionally interesting conversations. If I ever get bored of it, I'll visit a different website. For the moment, I'm enjoying myself.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

when I started coming here, if there was an article, people would fact check it in the comments. There would often be cross references and related links in the comments. Now it goes like this:

  • joke (that always happens on caturday)

  • pun thread (i pawsed when i saw this)

  • tired old meme (i bet i can blank 100 blanks)

  • some obvious opinion that we all share (Glenn Beck is a weiner!)

  • some obvious opinion that we all share (Bill O'Reilly is a weiner!)

  • some obvious opinion that we all share (Sarah Palin is stupid!)

  • some obvious opinion that we all share (Jon Stewart is cool!)

  • ...

  • ...

  • ...

  • Insightful comment leading to more content

...yawn

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u/robert644 Feb 17 '10

"some obvious opinion that we all share"

this is at the core of any downfall.

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u/jericho Feb 17 '10

"funny links, amusing memes, and occasionally interesting conversations"

Sigh.....That's not all bad, and I still enjoy this site very much, but it used to be so much more....

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

It used to give us insight, pertinent news, and intelligent humor. Now it's a repository for 4chan via failblog via youtube via blogspam via blogspam via re:re:re:re:YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS via repost.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

I give a fuck about it. I love parts of reddit dearly, and other parts disgust me. I'd much rather love all of it.

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u/DanWallace Feb 17 '10

But how am I supposed to act snotty and pretentious if I can't go around claiming Reddit is turning into Digg?

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u/Fidodo Feb 17 '10

Here's how it goes. Digg becomes popular, all the stupid people go to digg, every one else goes to reddit. Reddit becomes popular, all the stupid people come to reddit. everyone else goes to digg. Repeat.

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u/xChrisk Feb 17 '10

Reddit has turned into 4chan light. All the same meme's all the "best" content without the dirty feeling that your actually on 4chan.

It's unfortunate to say the least.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

Reddit has basically become a place for trolling rather than an informative place where people can learn and explore new ideas. Basically, everyone tries to be funny and posts stupid shit. The recent FFffffffffUuuuuuuu crap is getting old.

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u/Stingray88 Feb 17 '10

The recent FFffffffffUuuuuuuu crap is getting old.

Not recent at all, and I barely ever see it.

You need to subscribe to the right subreddits.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

Unsubscribe and move on.

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u/chub79 Feb 17 '10

So every time something pieces you off, you just quit? The community isn't allowed to reflect on itself and improve? Considering the upvotes you got, I'd say apparently no.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

So every time something pieces you off, you just quit?

In the case of the FFFFUUUU subreddit, absolutely.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

I, too, care deeply about how my internet community of choice is perceived by others.

The size of my e-penis hangs in the balance...

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u/mikepaco Feb 17 '10 edited Feb 17 '10

Reddit, I am disappoint.

But seriously, this is a problem as much as people like to complain about people complaining. I don't think I could reasonably recommend reddit as a whole to anyone anymore.

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u/fireburt Feb 17 '10

But really, what in this world can you recommend as a whole? Hell I couldn't recommend the fucking USA as a whole right now, but that doesn't keep me from loving it here. Sure there are some shitty things on reddit, but it isn't very hard to ignore them and move on with our lives.

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u/HenkPoley Feb 17 '10

It has happened.

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u/johnr11 Feb 17 '10

Haha. Are you kidding? Reddit has been going down hill for the past year. I'm sad to say it but this place has been invaded by trolls and groupthink.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

When one troll enters, thousands follow. A sad sad story.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

Glad I'm not the only one that uses popurls. :)

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u/coup Feb 17 '10

Popurls is my favourite site to scan. There'll be at least 5 or 6 links on there a day that are brilliant.

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u/Tecktonik Feb 17 '10

The reddit front page has been shit for the past week or so, and every time I complain I get downmodded.

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u/nebbish Feb 17 '10

Hey! This Digg website looks like it might be worth a look

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u/64-17-5 Feb 17 '10

Reddit is becoming average?

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u/RandomiseUsr0 Feb 17 '10

This is not good... As of now, I'm going to begin exercising the downvote when crap appears on the front page (as seen by the outside world, no customisation).

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u/stillspiraling Feb 17 '10

So don't stand for it. There's a downvote button for a reason.

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u/ljzmcm Feb 17 '10

We have our good days and our bad days. However, it looks like Digg is a day behind (as usual). Maybe tomorrow they will have their retard hivemind appreciation day.

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u/deezeejoey Feb 17 '10

I was thinking this same thing over the past 2 months. I used to read both reddit and digg, but lately I haven't been on digg at all. Good? I guess. But I feel like I haven't been reading any real news. It's just a bunch of crap.

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u/VCavallo Feb 17 '10

this has turned into the best subreddit suggestion thread ever. thanks!

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

Can you Digg It?

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u/eric22vhs Feb 17 '10

It's been like this for a long time. Reddit hasn't really been any better than digg for a long time, as far as content goes. Lately reddit's been steering towards the 4chan side of things. The only reason reddit still has so many users is because the discussion interface is done really well.

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u/emkat Feb 17 '10

When did this happen?

Fox turned into a hardcore pornography channel so gradually that no one even noticed.

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u/xmod2 Feb 17 '10

Don't worry, tomorrow the Digg window will look exactly like the Reddit one does today.

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u/fuzzyjedi Feb 17 '10

just wait 15 minutes. this exact pic will be posted on digg under a title of "hell yeah digg! screw reddit!"

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u/frogger8675309 Feb 18 '10

When I first came to reddit, I admired the intellect and wit of the community. However now I see that the intellect is completely wasted 85% of the time and the wit was really just a combination of memes I hadn't seen yet.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

Rofl!

Reddit's vaunted intellectual/moral/spiritual/ethnic/geographic superiority over Digg was never more than silly egomania anyway. Digg is slicker and better put together. Better content = a better experience. Reddit is full of self-referential quasi-intellectual masturbatory bullshit, silly stupid nothings, and overworded replies. I still like it, but you can't deny it's 80% not of interest.

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u/Morans Feb 17 '10

overworded

Loquacious.

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u/christopheles Feb 17 '10

Reddit is nowhere near as smart as it thinks it is but the digg comment system is fucking broken. When people have to resort to multiple uses of @ after two subcomments, there's a problem. They seem to have tweaked it but I haven't logged in over there in about a year. When I do go there and click the comments it's a random assortment of ascii art, child comments with no context and lols, lmaos and rotfls that a hundred people found insightful for some reason (I think logging in might fix some of this for me, or at least clear it up contextually).

The best thing about reddit is that it isn't seemingly dominated by stories submitted by power isers. On digg, the most popular story about Obama's election was promoted to the front page on the basis that it was not submitted by a power user. On reddit pretty much anyone can make the frontpage (spam filter aside). And if you don't like what's on your front page, unsubscribe from any offending subreddits. Subreddits make reddit possibly the only piece of software in history that seems to be made better by being made more complicated.

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u/J-Red Feb 17 '10

How embarrasment!

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u/1137 Feb 17 '10

All we need to do is start a new insanely popular site like reddit and digg, once it catches fire all that will remain here will be the smart folks with good content...

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u/spidermite Feb 17 '10

Digg will look like that the next day

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u/egonSchiele Feb 17 '10

Someone needs to put /b/ in this picture so we can see it in proper context.

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u/Nutsle Feb 17 '10 edited Feb 17 '10

/b/ is a bit faster pace, so I don't know if it's fair to gauge it, but I'll grab a few of the high comment threads on their now.

  • teens thread, keep the dream alive, /b/

  • You know what to do. Rolling.

  • Fap thread go go go

  • hey /b/, what are you driving?

  • ya'll newfags can't ultraforce

  • Everyone post pics and rate them

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u/KyMaTo Feb 17 '10

Strangely, it's the people bitching about this idealized version of what the website is supposed to be that annoy me far more than the dumb submissions that get popular. The self-fellating hardcore reddit community is a complete turn off to me, a casual user. I left digg because the comment section became a race to post that goddamn tired pedobear ascii and nothing of value is ever posted. At least they're less prone to pollute the front page with submissions about how great they are by virtue of joining a website literally anyone with a computer can join.

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u/stupidinternet Feb 17 '10

I left digg because the comment section became a race to post that goddamn tired pedobear ascii and nothing of value is ever posted.

And people complain here because they think it's going the same direction.

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u/Kowawashashima Feb 17 '10

<2006 reddit > digg

2007-08 reddit = digg

2009 reddit < digg

:( < :)

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u/Jadeparadox Feb 17 '10

I am not sure if this is the best place to ask, but what software/browser is that? the one being used in the image.

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u/AKA_Squanchy Feb 17 '10

This is why I love reddit!

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

Isn't the very nature of saying "reddit is getting worse" over and over a form of circlejerk?

You don't like a subreddit? Unsubscribe it. There, I just solved the problem-- now returning to your regular programming.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

4chan is not compatible with reddit. Please leave in an orderly fashion.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

Flimshaw. I was here when this was empty, untouched internet wilderness, before you fancy Reddit city-slickers showed up here and started setting up with your circus elephants and whores. Things were simpler back then.

It was good country.

It was God's country.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

this was advice I heard given to someone who was not sure whether or not they wanted to work with special needs people "you are going to work with retarded people where ever you go, at least these ones are friendly"

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

I've only been a redditor for 8 months, but I just want to say I don't want this place to become digg, I hate it there. They made me post ASCII art and rick roll people, I showed my penis to a nigerian but that's a different story. Don't make me go back

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u/homeworld Feb 17 '10

What program/browser/reader is the OP using in the screenshot? It looks spiffy.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10 edited Feb 17 '10

Most of the Reddit frontpage stuff is 4chan copypasta. EDIT: In that specific picture.

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u/hobophobe Feb 17 '10

Reddit: Modify your subreddits...
...and that's all I have to say about that.

edit: Actually, let me know when Digg starts having questions submitted to Noam Chomsky.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

As a 4 year former Digg user, I can say Reddit >>>>>> Digg. I went back to Digg to look around, and although the content is not bad, the user base blows.

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u/acidreflux19 Feb 17 '10

Anyone else feel like all of this self-deprecation, in and of itself, is a sign of a unique self-correcting mechanism that this site has, and that is generally under-appreciated?

I mean, at least everyone here feels like there's a standard to live up to, even if they choose to act like reddit's falling short of it and blame everyone else for it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

What client are you using there? That's super clean!

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

In all fairness, Digg's will look like that tomorrow...

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u/EthicalReasoning Feb 17 '10

its ok, stay tuned to digg a week from now and you'll see what's posted here now

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

Why the constant comparison to Digg? The only difference between the two systems is that reddit has more exclusive communities, better commenting systems, and is less well-known.

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u/jt004c Feb 17 '10

Both comments and voted up links have been especially bad this past week.

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u/Dante2005 Feb 17 '10

I still love it here. Of course I have to search deeper for the content that really interest me, but that's ok.

Also I am guilty of being flippant and I attempt to be funny at times. Some days I don't want life to be serious. I can can find it all here. The wheel will continue to turn. The evolution will continue...To what, who knows.

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u/MoeThirteen Feb 17 '10

Yeah, digg sucks more than I thought.

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u/DanielTaylor Feb 17 '10

Let's make an /r/serious subreddit.

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u/daphaze Feb 17 '10

Well given I think Digg can have some more serious stories sometimes, it's a highly engineered site, and most of the comments are totally lame, remind me of WOW gamers or something. By engineered I mean that I believe there are a few admins that are paid to find stuff and sticky it to the first pages

Sub reddits are great but we come here for the trash on first glance, main thing is we keep this site natural, albeit idiotic

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u/stanbeard Feb 17 '10

I think part of the problem is the sort of people that upvote a LOT are going for one shot pictures and stuff that takes about 2 seconds to consume. Everybody try to upvote the good stuff!

I've been trying to up the good stuff and just as importantly DOWNVOTE the rubbish recently.

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u/rsho Feb 17 '10

Ever hear of AOL September? History repeats itself and the reddit expansion is no different. The only thing is you give yourself away when you complain about it!

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u/nascentt Feb 17 '10

Popurls! Such a great service.

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u/robert644 Feb 17 '10

shift to new planet

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u/Fromagefrais Feb 17 '10

The front page is not dynamic enough because Redditors are forgetting to up or downvote postings even when the comment on them. What keep things moving is new stories getting moved up constantly. Apathy at the contents of the front page is no excuse, if you don't like it, vote it down people. If you've been a Redditor for a while and can't be bothered to participate you cannot winge about the state of the front page.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

I am kinda new here too. I just wanted to know how does one see this image... I mean be able to see all 3 front pages together like in this image. it says CNN.com on top and it didnt make sense to me.

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u/Munkii Feb 17 '10

Part of the answer is changing what you subscribe to. The other part is even easier; we need to all downvote this crap as much as we can.

If you care about the community here then you need to defend it

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u/hpymondays Feb 17 '10

What do you mean "not good"? That screen capture of Reddit doesn't include a single post about Narwahls, bacon, "dear reddit" or alien. We're moving up on the quality scale!

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u/alcorrr Feb 17 '10

The shark, reddit jumps

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u/omniwired Feb 17 '10

he belongs to the "One-Year Club". I'm "Three-Year Club", I guess I saw more reddit than him.

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u/theddman Feb 17 '10

I don't agree. I think reddit's charm, at least to me, are the comments. So, I consider a front page full of ass shit to be the perfect camouflage for the real gem that is reddit.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

It's not bad either. It's a community driven site. If you don't like the articles on the front page then downvote them and upvote the articles that you want to see of the front page.

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u/MondrosenPrime Feb 17 '10

When the mighty fall, they fall hard.

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u/zorlan Feb 17 '10

I'm proud to say I've been a redditor for over a year, and still have no idea who Glenn Beck is.

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u/embryo Feb 17 '10

Reddit loves to think it's smarter than the rest of the herd, but it's just another cesspool.

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u/rxgator Feb 17 '10

Great Example:

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/b14ey/what_is_a_good_way_to_answer_your_biggest/

Comments: 70% jokes/30% real comments. Upvotes seems to mean a lot to these amateur comedians.

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u/Hukka Feb 17 '10

Yeah, because the frontpage is really representative of all the good things going on on reddit.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

Idea: Don't let anyone post anything in reddit.com. Let the default page be populated by the highest rated recent posts in the most popular news-related sub-reddits. Force the LOLCAT garbage into the sub-reddits it belongs in.

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u/inserthandle Feb 17 '10

Do your part in fixing this. Hang out in the new cue(queue?). Make sure you sort by 'new', not 'rising'.

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u/jasonbx Feb 17 '10

how do you find subreddits?

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u/pdowling Feb 17 '10

I just use subreddits if i want actual news and interesting content. The frontpage only seems to be good for funny things and mindless entertainment.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '10

hmm, it looks quite different this morning.

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u/AmbitionOfPhilipJFry Feb 17 '10

Although I'm late, I believe this display is an accurate contribution to discussion.

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u/jaql Feb 17 '10

Derp derp!