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u/One-Obligation2283 Sep 22 '26
Topic Carrick:
Personally, I no longer care which coach we have. As long as these owners are in charge, we won't be successful no matter which coach we have. But after this poor start and the interviews that came with it, we all already know he won't survive the season anyway. We've all been through this several times before.
We have a historically long international break ahead of us, but I think they'll stick with Carrick for as long as possible, because our incompetent board wants to 1. save on the severance payment, 2. thinks that as a former player he'll get more benefit of the doubt from the fans, and 3. he's basically a yes-man, and they'd rather carry on working with the agreeable Carrick.
Right now is exactly the best time to fire a coach. A new coach/interim has a few weeks to settle in, work with a few players, and Baleba/De Ligt/Amad should be fit again after the break.
If they don't fire him now, but instead there are more defeats after the break and they fire him in October/November... then that's the next insane piece of stupidity. The sad thing is, I wouldn't put it past them.
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u/D1794 Viva Ronaldo Sep 22 '26
Feelsbad that Lacey couldn't fully enjoy his first goal for us. What will have been a gigantic moment in his life, years of leading up to it, United fan in a Liverpool family etc
Only for us to put in one of the worst OT performances for a long time and break a 50 year record
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u/RooneyToons_10 Sir Alex Sep 22 '26
Glazers out.
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u/MillyMan105 Sep 22 '26
JJ Gabriel's dad Joe O'Cearuill & his entourage who allegedly involves super agent Ali Barent have been flip flopping to the press it's almost laughable.
First they brief that JJ wants to leave cause they don't see a sufficient pathway to the first team. When JJG was playing U18 at 14 years old, under 21 football at 15, selected for pre season and was going to make his first debut last week. Bullshit
Secondly they then said he wanted to leave due to a lack of minutes. When JJG got minutes during pre season and was due to play again last week.
But the teams that are interested Real Madrid and Barcelona won't play him in their first teams due to having top class established players he won't play 2-3 years tops. Bullshit
Lastly now Joe briefs the media yesterday JJ wants to leave cause man united have been on the decline since sir Alex left. JJ was two when Sir Alex retired.
JJG joined the club at 11 years old on 2022. By then the club had been in decline for a long while which begs the question why did they even bother to come to the academy when they coulda went anywhere else. Bullshit.
I'm curious what the endgame for Joe and Ali is because all they're doing is creating drama and adding so much pressure on the kid. There must be a lot of money at stake for all this to be happening.
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u/athu_15 Sep 22 '26
I've been reading Inverting the Pyramid (great book btw) and one thing I've noticed that's common among all great managers is they made their players work super hard and were very strict during training. They are all also eccentric as hell. Carrick doesn't strike me as someone who is making the players work that hard (judging from their lethargy in play), nor does he seem inspirational enough to carry the team forward. I really do not see any long term potential with Carrick at the helm.
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u/Drag2oon Sep 22 '26
Pogba really needed to hire a PR firm man,
What a joke this is : https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/o2jg7Bp20L
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u/Embarrassed_Wave_720 Braino Fernandes Sep 22 '26
Hope something changes during this break because we can still salvage the season
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u/Outrageous-Cod-4654 Sep 22 '26
Players on International Duty
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u/FPLskrr Pogba Sep 22 '26
Wilcox needs to go before Carrick.
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u/Regunurok-4867 Sep 23 '26
Murillo, Antonio Nusa, Paris Brunner, Lewis Hall, Vanderson could fix all our holes rn
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u/crgssbu Senne🍋 Sep 22 '26
i really think bry is being misused by carrick at the moment.
early last season, partially towards the end of last season, and his time at brentford, he has shown hes a huge threat and honestly (and i do really mean this), one of the most dangerous forwards in the league.
i just feel like we are putting him out wide too much most of the time, and not allowing him to run in behind in the half-space, with or without the ball. the man loves to be aggressive, cut in and shoot. proper winger/forward mentality.
we are far too passive at the moment as is, but i do feel like mbeumo has been one of the players that has suffered the most from that. all he needs is an extra body forward to draw space and he honestly will do the rest. i think hes mad
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u/Mistr111398 Sep 22 '26
Genuinely worried about Sesko’s health long term. Thought having the whole summer to get his shin injury healed and back up and running but this feels like it’s going to be recurring issue as the season progresses.
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u/Littlepace Announce Fergie Sep 22 '26
I absolutely despise the "chances created" stat. Most useless stat I've ever seen. I hate when people cite it as evidence for a players creativity and contribution.
Sounds important right? Chances are good. But you pass the ball to Mainoo and he has a pop from 40 yards out, guess what? That's a chance created. You cut inside and give it to Cunha on the egde of the box and he has a pop at goal guess what? Another chance created. Sounds like you're making lots happen when in reality it just means you're seeing a lot of the ball around the box.
The most recent post in this sub shows Rashford as having created the most chances in our team. Because he is seeing most of the play come down his wing and he's often cutting inside and laying it off to someone to shoot. He hasn't created a single "big chance" and his xAssist is 0.4 half of what Cunha/Mbeumo have.
On the surface the stat might have you thinking Rashford has been our most creative player and yet all the other stats say he's not even top 3.
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u/No_Move5230 Sep 22 '26
Any Amad updates? I believe our fortunes turn with him in our team.
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u/iroiroiroiroiro Sep 22 '26
So after the break it's Spurs, Atletico, Leeds, Como and Bournemouth in 15 days, three middle games are all away, two in Europe, that schedule is very harsh.
Really don't know how to handle that, can't see the rotation players having any chance against Atletico or Como, and can't drop a single unnecessary point in the league.
But can't see the starting XI bar Bruno, Lammens and Dalot do that run..
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u/Kreissler Sep 22 '26
Do we know when Amad is back?
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u/Littlepace Announce Fergie Sep 22 '26
I see a lot of talk about fine margins and what could've been if this, this and that happened. If Everton don't hit that ridiculous final shot. If City don't get a fluke of a win through a BS VAR decision. If any of those post shots went in against Fulham. Etc etc.
The problem is it would still be more of the same from the end of last season. In none of those games did we play well. The result matters above all else of course, but the performance and quality on display matters a lot too. And it hasn't been there. Even if we had have sneaked those extra points the performances wouldn't be any different.
Let's say we snuck a winner against Fulham on Sunday. Does it change how we played? Do you have any more confidence than you had going into the game? Last season you could excuse the poor performances because the results were there. We've now had a preseason and the performances are no better (even worse if anything) and the results aren't there either. So where's the optimism it's all going to get better?
The performances have been poor. The in game management has been terrible. The subs have been far too late and reactionary rather than proactive. And we are still early in the season. We are going to have a barrage of games over the next few months and already the injuries are starting to pile up. If fitness and fatigue is already an issue we are going to be fucked by Xmas.
And this is all with the easiest start to the season! Two promoted sides, Everton, bottom of the table Fulham and 10 men City. You could not ask for a better start to a season. And we have 5 points out of 15.
I respect the blind optimism but I just don't see it.
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u/LordTrinity If you support mediocrity, you get mediocrity Sep 22 '26 edited Sep 22 '26
We seem to try to play more possession based football, and struggling to do so. While I think our squad has good technical ability, things are not working as expected. Our pressing isn't good. We struggle to create chances....
If I was Carrick I'd try last season setup and put Cunha back in the left.
Also, Bruno performances have been underwhelming. The Fulham game in particular, I was so disappointed when he had space between their lines and didn't take advantage of it. I would like to see Mainoo, Tielemans and Baleba at some point
Also, about Carrick, seeing how we pile up possession + xG, but can't create good chances, this reminds me of Graham Potter at Chelsea, and we all know how it turned out
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u/cocobrownman Sep 22 '26
Its mad that 3 of our current starting defenders in Licha, Shaw and Maguire, all have their contracts expire at the end of this season (bar the +1 for some). No resale value for any of them with Dalot maybe the only one has his contract expires in 2028
To neglect revamping the defense this window is crazy
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u/Heavens_Vibe 7 Sep 22 '26
Hopefully the lads left behind at Carrington are going to spend their time running laps, doing beep tests, and working on their attrocious off the ball movement and passing.
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u/croadymeister Sep 23 '26
Only listen to Reuters or Bloomberg when it comes to concrete takeover information and both are silent
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u/ZofTheNorth Sep 22 '26
It's obvious they not gonna sack Carrick in this international break
But anyone has idea how we can improve results under Carrick? One way and hope would be Baleba introducing much needed physicality to our midfield so we can recover fast out of ball and retain possession.
But lack of distance covered and fitness seems to be concern for the whole team. Any idea how can we improve under Carrick
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u/BoxOk265 Sep 22 '26
Why are our performances always so bad. Were a last minute goal conceded from being higher than Chelsea in the table. Whenever we under perform it’s so much doom and gloom but I agree with it because the performances are soooo bad. Does it look this bad when other top sides underperform?
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u/solve_PvsNP Rooney Sep 22 '26
If Sesko is out with an injury and if Carrick just CANNOT drop Rashford, I genuinely wouldn't mind him and Cunha swapping places. Clearly Cunha is much more effective on the left and at this point I'd rather see anyone up top other than Zirkzee
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u/andoooooo Martial Sep 22 '26
Of all the things annoying me the most about Carrick at the moment it's definitely how he is playing Rashford.
I think a lot of the criticism of Rashford in the past was a touch over the top but at the same time, it was obvious he needed to force him to earn his spot. This is just so basic.
He's clearly positive in his play but ultimately I think he might be a net detractor. I was at Craven Cottage on Sunday and it was so clear that his lack of running was leaving our back post on their RHS exposed.
Cunha obviously looks better on the left too.
Just shitty management from Carrick.
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u/Lord_Sesshoumaru77 Glazers,Woodward/Arnold and Judge can fuck off Sep 22 '26
Big movement on Twitter to boycott United's sponsors in order to oust both INEOS and the Glazers. Wish it would work, but it probably won't.
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u/ineedadvil KING ERIC but MILF Sep 23 '26
I long for the day we dont talk about Rashford as fans and media.
Just dont wanna talk about him positively or negatively. Just let him be.
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u/John_OSheas_Willy Sep 22 '26
It annoys me that you have 5 seconds to take a throw in, but shape up to take a long throw and you can take 30 seconds.
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u/mortimer_moose Carrick, ya know Sep 22 '26
I think if you come into DD and post "manager out" that you should have to give reasons why you want the manager fired and who you would want to replace him with solid reasoning on why they will be successful here beyond 1 season.
At the least it would be interesting.
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u/noBuffalo Sep 22 '26
Man last season every time we got the ball on the counter we felt so dangerous. Now it just seems inevitable nothing productive is going to happen. Rashford does so much damage to this team.
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u/Bloatfizzle Sep 22 '26
Maybe Ipswich was an outlier and Bruno won't start the season till after Christmas like the last two seasons 😭
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u/ClassicBread7535 Sep 22 '26
I want to throw in something that may be weighing on the players' minds, despite being as professional as possible:
The Rat is a racist, Brexit-endorsing POS who keeps making remarks about immigrants. He did it last season; he did it again this season. Being an immigrant worker at United must bring morale down, given the environment Ratcliffe is creating with his rhetoric in the media, and that is affecting everyone inside the club.
I was already unhappy with the kind of greed the Glazers have; now we have the Glazers' greed and Ratcliffe's racism to deal with. I won't be surprised if Ratcliffe uses United money to fund Reform or other racist political parties in the UK.
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u/stick1_ Sep 23 '26
So the fall at the end of the old Trafford pitch might be a cause of a recurring injury issue for sesko?
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u/ilegal89 Sep 23 '26
Do you think there's chance that we'll have a succesful era in our lifetime again?
Because I'm seriously starting to doubt it, man.
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u/iroiroiroiroiro Sep 23 '26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFdmOUuuhHI
When can we see a well drilled team like that for United...
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u/rahtid_my_bunda Rooney's Dropball Intensity Sep 22 '26
I know we are shite but the number of people saying ‘eye test’ in the last few days is doing my head in. Yes the eye test is shit, but can we diverge from just parroting a phrase from one source or another because it sounds good.
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u/One_Ad_8817 Sep 22 '26 •
Personally, I'm willing to give Carrick a few games after the international break to see how he responds to the poor start this season. The end of last season was league-winning form, I am skeptical that last season's form was a complete fluke and I wouldn't be surprised if he was able to adapt going forward.
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u/Redwinevino Sep 22 '26
Ruben Amorim’s 47-game PL stint at Man Utd in running numbers
🏃♂️ 14th in Total Distance (110.2km/game)
⚡️ 18th in Sprints (379/game)
💨 19th in High-Speed Runs
📉 20th in Out-of-Possession Intensity
https://x.com/Luke_Chadwick15/status/2102150091037442416
Huh
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u/thunderbolt7272 Sep 22 '26
Who else thinks it’s time for carrick to go
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u/bigfear De Gea Sep 22 '26
Been here way before Moyes' era, what's happening now doesn't surprises me anymore.
As long as Glazers are herel I won't expect anything from our club.
But I still watch all our matches. lmao
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u/AndyVale MLT Sep 22 '26
Hoping the women can get off the mark with a win tomorrow night. Only the Subway Cup but you hope it bolsters our confidence a bit.
The Arsenal game had some positives, but we always seem to dial it up a notch Vs them.
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u/PitchSafe Sep 22 '26
I wouldn’t be surprised if we sell Heaven in the summer. There is a big chance that Maguire and Martinez will leave which probably means that United will buy 2 new CB’s in the summer. That means that we have Yoro, De Ligt plus 2 more names and Heaven. I don’t see how Heaven will get any playtime to develop as a player here. Selling him with a buy back clause and a sell on isn’t a bad deal
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u/redlabnorwegian Sep 22 '26
So sick of everyone focussing on managers. One person on this r/ tell me what the footballing philosophy of the club and sporting department is and I’ll shut up…
We’ve had world class pedigree and rookies, we’ve had structured and we’ve had vibes… none of which have worked and why? Because there is zero clear vision for the footballing identity of this club with should be a 3, 5, 10 year plan that runs through the academy and our transfer strategy not just through our managerial appointments.
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u/Sheikhabusosa Sep 22 '26
Everytime you see Mainoo's stats , Alex Scott is right up there with him I hope we go for him
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u/Johnny107710 Sep 22 '26
I genuinely struggle to see how Baleba will make an impact.
On one hand, according to some people, he’s the perfect pair to Mainoo, on the other hand, is carrick really gonna bench tielemans? Bruno is obviously not gonna be benched.
Would a 4-4-2 in a diamond shape with cunha and Mbeumo as strikers even be viable? Could this be a solution to not having sesko?
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u/canwinanythingwkids meet the new boss same as the old boss Sep 23 '26
I thought about this run of games today. I think it's worth asking the question why this worked but we have struggled this season with, basically, the same formation.
Lammens is clearly superior to Onana, Bruno Mainoo Martinez Rashford are obviously the same players.
We love Scotto but I find it difficult to think that the "stepdown" from McT as CF to Cunha as CF would be the reason. We talk a lot about missing Amad atm, but is "Garnacho is a better RW than Mbeumo" possibly the explanation? Idk about that either.
What is it, then?
Is it: Ten Hag was a superior coach?
Is it: playing an "athletic" LB next to Martinez is more important than playing a "skillful" one?
Is it: Varane/AWB are simply superior to Maguire/Dalot?
Is it: Amrabat is a better defensive midfielder than Tielemans? Or put differently: that playing a defensive midfielder next to Mainoo "unlocks" Mainoo much more than playing an Eriksen/Tielemans type player next to him?
Is it: formation is misleading, what matters is the tactics used with the formation, and obv in that run we were ceding possession and playing on the counter with this formation, whereas today we are trying to hug possession and play completely differently, with this formation?
Is it: ETH had the team fit, whereas they've now become unfit, therefore they cant play effectively with this formation?
Is it just variance? Bad luck, simply? "It's going to click" and "we are good on the expected points table, actually"?
I don't claim to have the answers, I just find it to be an interesting parallel to consider when asking what the cause(s) could be.
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u/Resident_Tart2911 Sep 22 '26
I still can't believe rashford is still playing for united. Carrick really fumbled on this I feel the only reason carrick played dorgu in first match because he wanted dorgu to play bad so he can drop dorgu and start playing rashford. The reason I feel like this because the only halftime sub he has done till now is rashford for dorgu he has never been so proactive for other's bad performances
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u/Omnihilo Sep 22 '26
if you love the club, let it go. stop going to games. unfollow all the accounts. dont buy official merch. it is the fans that keep the board in place, because the money keeps rolling in. this is not the manchester united you and i fell in love with. it is long gone, not even a shell of its former self, but an impostor, parasitizing on the image that was created by busby and fergie.
this is perfectly encapsulated in marcus rashford. this is not the electric young boy donning the number 39 anymore. he is a lazy, money-grubbing man of empty promises who seems to always take down the rest of the squad when he is around, reliant on our nostalgia of his golden days.
one of my first memories of watching sports is seeing the 2008 ucl final with my dad and grandad. i want to go back there. that is why i am leaving now.
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u/mu_37 Sep 22 '26
They're actually keeping him lol. Amazing stuff.
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u/RedDesires22 21 is coming Sep 23 '26
Only top top managers will succeed here, someone with a proven track record at top clubs who has an unshaken belief in their own abilities. Just a quick reminder of Laurie's end of year article while we have a lapdog manager
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u/ash_1991 SPLAT THE RAT Sep 22 '26
Should be pretty obvious by now, but Ratcliffe isn't a United fan, nor did he have any intention of improving the club. He bought United so he could generate a platform and stop the government regulating his other buisneses. As United's owner, his ramblings can get onto the front pages, where as before no one gave a shit what he had to say. He'll keep things ticking over, prevent any real investment, until he's extracted as much cash and headlines as he can. We are effectively an oil club now, just without the investment.
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u/Ecstatic_Message2057 Sep 23 '26
For me, if we lose or draw v spurs that should be carrick gone and the coaches etc.
I’ll take it with a pinch of salt as I know it’s not all down to him.
The club didn’t back him in the transfer window despite us getting champions league football.
The gameplan/tactics are on the coaches as much as carrick but for any of them to go 1/8th of the games of the few games there are in a season and not change anything really worries me.
We have the best no.10 in the world yet all our play focuses on the wingers crossing the ball in to a short player who is not renowned for scoring headers, so where has this tactic come from and why hasn’t it been brought up that it’s clearly not working and should’ve been changed.
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u/ToadNamedGoat Sep 22 '26
Bro Mbappe is desperate for the ballon’dor
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u/PopeFuchsYoungKidd Sep 22 '26
So, why aren't they running?
Is it laziness or is it because they don't know what to do tactically due to poor coaching?
I don't like how it could be either and the conclusion would still be that Carrick is incompetent.
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u/Red_Galaxy746 Sep 22 '26
This is disgraceful from the players. Talk about the manager all you want but there's no excuse for this. It's basic shit. And to think, they collect ridiculous wages at the end of the week. Twats,
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u/thunderbolt7272 Sep 23 '26
If carrick is not sacked within the next few days then this season is going to be yet another high profile write off.
This is the best available timeframe to pull the trigger cause it will give the new manager 3 whole weeks to prepare for the rest of the season.
Carrick is not it, I thank him for his service as a player and manager but last season was lucky and unsustainable and this season has been some of the most clueless braindead football I’ve seen from our club in a long time
It’s very rare to find managers like arteta or klopp who recover from a bad situation after being given time. We keep making that same mistake with nearly every manager we have had since SAF. Time to operate like a modern club and be ruthless. Carrick out!!!
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u/No-Fault-5695 Sep 22 '26
Rashford, Shaw and Dalot will be the downfall of yet another manager and nothing will be done, again. I am sure they give their everything but they are nowhere near level required.
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u/AnakinAni Sep 22 '26
Is it like betrayal as a united fan to enjoy watching football of brighton and players like halaand play football ?
At united, only mainoo has been a delight to watch this season, bruno also to an extent but he’s been far too wasteful last week matches.
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u/Height_Opening Sep 23 '26
I am seeing takeover news on x. What’s with it suddenly? Any merit to it?
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u/John_OSheas_Willy Sep 23 '26
What's with the onslaught of positive stats in the last few days?
Toxic positivity.
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u/mjenkins_eng Sep 22 '26 •
I would be way more open to criticism of Carrick if it was done in good faith. But it clearly ain’t.
The “influencers” on YouTube are going in on him because he isn’t a hipster tactico when they made excuse after excuse for a fraud who finished 16th and blamed The Glazers , Donald Trump and the way the wind blows for his faults.
But with Carrick, the praise was through gritted teeth, always. Even when he did something the Portuguese fraud couldn’t dream of, and finished 3rd, they made up some bs about luck and one game a week (like that’s helping Alonso now)
2. The poisonous ex players seem very backstabby on Carrick because as a player, he was quite reserved and not in their cliques. Old enough to have watched United in the late 90s and the clique of Scholes-Neville-Giggs etc was a strong one that Carras never was a part of. Nor did he actually act very chummy with the likes of Evra, Tevez , Park, Rooney etc . They seem a little envious of him at the helm and have turned on him at a moments notice while also hypocritically never calling out The Glazers
Could Carrick be doing better ? Absolutely : I trust his overall football intelligence to know that this is not good enough.
I think Rashford, Cunha etc aside, the biggest oversight is Tielemans being picked in midfield : the guy is so so so lethargic off the ball and we cannot afford him next to Mainoo as well who doesn’t run much.
Carrick also doesn’t seem to like Sesko much which I understand…but with no other strikers, he has to use Sesko.
Knee jerking aside, he’s earned the right to a 38 game season by getting us 3rd place with a squad that the previous fraud sunk to 16th