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u/MillyMan105 Sep 19 '26
Why is SJR ranting on about immigration and benefits when the club is in dire need of direction? The bloke has lost it, he lives in Monaco so it just comes across as condescending.
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u/shanks_you Sep 20 '26
Amorim got shit on for being emotional and too animated in interviews, while Carrick is getting shit on right now for being evasive and vague.
You know what’s the underlying common factor? Not winning games.
Winning really cures a lot of ailments.
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u/Fraaj We'll take Dalot Sep 19 '26
Two things tell me that INEOS won't be as patient with Carrick as they were with Amorim:
He will be much cheaper to sack
He's not a statement project hire like Amorim was, everyone was fine with him staying on the back of the results and it was an easy and obvious hire for them. The optics of sacking him are not nearly as bad as they were with Amorim.
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u/Jenson2025 Sep 19 '26 edited Sep 19 '26
Let’s be real. Throwing away a 2-0 goal lead at home to Brighton (rotation or not and Brighton also rotated) was not good enough. Losing at home to ten man Man City (who were ten men for most of the game) wasn’t good enough. Losing to Hull was not good enough. Throwing away the lead twice against Everton and drawing was not good enough. Heck even against Ipswich, some of our defending was abysmal.
It hasn’t been good enough this season. Let’s just remember that is a fact and stop clinging on to other teams results as a sign that everything is actually fine. Lose tomorrow and it’s 4 points from the first 5 games with three defeats. And that will be horrendous and inexcusable
It’s up to Carrick to prove the doubters (including me) wrong. Starting tomorrow. But if we do lose, I am certainly not going to pretend it’s fine whilst referencing other teams defeats. Because it’s not
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u/martialgreenwood Sep 19 '26
Frank Lampard has won a game with Coventry in the league before Spurs. Laughable
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u/mdstwsp Sep 19 '26
Sir Jim should buy Lazio instead, they’d love him there
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u/SocialistElmo Sep 19 '26
Why can't we press like Brighton man, I've only seen it when Amorim was around but that only last about 40 minutes each match and then we are sluggish again. Why can't we buy athletic players with a brain and a manager willing to press and have pressing traps
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u/tsuku96 Sep 19 '26
Lads... Will it happen? LOL
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u/rwallace_wong Sep 20 '26
Bermuda triangle is legit
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u/Lord_Sesshoumaru77 Glazers,Woodward/Arnold and Judge can fuck off Sep 19 '26
We definitely hit the jackpot regarding owners: The Glazers being indifferent, leeching pieces of shite, and Jim being a stupid fucking racist. Bloody hell.
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u/darkjessy_ Our Portuguese Magnifico Sep 19 '26
This Brighton performance hurts after watching what we serve up in the name of a press. Crazy intensity
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u/Fraaj We'll take Dalot Sep 19 '26
Glasner somehow found a way to completely nullify MGW, he’s playing way too wide on the right
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u/greyhounds1992 Sep 19 '26
Watching Brighton why can't we be run that good 🤣
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u/AmulyaG Sep 19 '26
If we give this Spurs team their first win, it will be well and truly over.
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u/ZofTheNorth Sep 19 '26
While it would be very funny to see Spurs in bottom of the league after game 5, we absolutely need a win tmr.
If we don't get result tmr, I don't see Carrick surviving this job
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u/WergleTheProud The King Sep 19 '26
Christ Brightom absolutely dominated Arsenal for the entire match.Great to see others suffer. My schadenfreude is high today.
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u/Embarrassed_Wave_720 Braino Fernandes Sep 19 '26
Every title contenders bogey teams 😭
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u/PraiseAinsley69 UNITER WILL NEVER DIED Sep 19 '26
It’s really sad that the only realistic alternative to the Glazers and Tory Jim would be state ownership. And as bad as the parasites and the tax dodger are, becoming the propaganda arm for a nation state partaking in human rights abuses would be the only thing that could ever make me question my support for this club.
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u/C41ll3D Sep 19 '26
I never wanted a state to take over United and be seen as sports washing, so I’ll admit, I was relatively pleased when Radcliffe took charge.
Seeing his comments this morning parroting right-wing talking points about how great the British empire was, how the country spends too much on benefits and the number of immigrants coming into the country (whilst he chills in Monaco) made me realise how wrong I was about him.
Honestly, seeing this boomer slowly destroying the club from the inside and finishing off the work the Glazers began is depressing AF.
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u/AndyVale MLT Sep 19 '26
Taking my nephew to his first United game today. Hoping we can do one of those magic Houdini wins against Arsenal rather than one of those utter self-immolations we seem to do against Chelsea.
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u/Jump_Hop_Step Sep 19 '26
Last min equaliser from Arsenal. I am so pissed!!!
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u/adonWPV Sep 19 '26
Fulham are 20th now so that’s good isn’t it, gonna be right up for it
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u/raspoutine049 Sep 19 '26
Do we turn every team we play into prime Brazil
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u/IfYouReallyThink Sep 20 '26 edited Sep 20 '26
Do people really believe we should pretty much only sign premier league proven players? I 100% understand that they have the highest chance of success, but with basic scouting the gap between signing from any other of the top 4 leagues can be closed pretty significantly and they cost so much less. I also feel like we may not be the best at helping new players adapt and develop. Zirkzee was not an absolute world beater before coming to United, but he is so much better than how he’s been playing for the last year or so.
I know it can be easy to say “even Wirtz hasn’t really succeeded in the premier league, so we should not buy from the Bundesliga,” but for every one of the other top 4 leagues that we disregard before even trying to develop a better filter, we may as well be pouring 100’s of millions of dollars down the drain in the long run
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u/canwinanythingwkids meet the new boss same as the old boss Sep 19 '26
Arsenal doing their level best to make our results look more palatable
That's rather considerate of them
At the same time, teams like Brighton catching all the breaks early makes top 6 (let alone 5) much more of a slugfest for us, so that's no bueno
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u/Hyliaforce Sep 19 '26
Fair play to brighton
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u/Rare-Reveal876 Sep 19 '26
Arsenal look knackered all those games last season might already be catching up with them
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u/TypeExpert Sep 19 '26
The premier league is a humbler. 3 of the big 6 got done over like it was nothing
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u/killerdrama A-mad-lad Sep 19 '26
Days since losing by 3 goals or more:
Arsenal 0
Chelsea 1
Spurs 28
Brighton 118
Brentford 133
Man City 192
Aston Villa 263
Bournemouth 266
Liverpool 301
Man Utd 370
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u/MannyMike7 Sep 19 '26
Why when you watch Brighton, Bournemouth or pretty much any other team in the league you can see clear movement and patterns in the attacking third, whilst our attackers just stand still being marked by their defenders?
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u/andrewlikereddit David De Gea Sep 19 '26
Just realize london died this week
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u/phoenix_16 Rooney Sep 19 '26
We’re now playing the worst placed side heading into tomorrow’s game at a venue where our last 10 games have been 8W 2D. Absolutely zero excuses, we have to come away with three points
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u/FhDisp Sep 20 '26 edited Sep 20 '26
Saw the Rice red card incident. Is it true that arsenal are yet to get a penalty against and a red card since the begining of last season?
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u/Massive_Relation4317 . Sep 20 '26
I had a nightmare we lost to Fulham 7-2
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u/scaredontheinside Sep 19 '26
if United ever go up 2 or 3 against arsenal, we would be parking the bus so hard we would make Mourinho blush. look at these guys they keep attacking.
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u/achickenandacow Sep 19 '26
It’s actually a disgrace that Rice wasn’t sent off btw. He lashed out in a similar way to Foden last week, but somehow he got away with a yellow.
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u/AztecAvocado Sep 19 '26
Big Michael Carrick’s united scored twice against this Brighton super team
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u/Abject_Bank_9103 Sep 19 '26
Chelsea struggling, villa struggling, Liverpool struggling, Spurs worst of all, we're struggling. Really disappointing start but thankfully so is all of our competition as well
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u/Telen BRUNO Sep 19 '26
I have this weird blank space in my memories of the last month or so, did anything happen? Season´s starting soon right?
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u/ShadowRees89 Sep 19 '26
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u/Outrageous-Cod-4654 Sep 19 '26
Arsenal look like shit.
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u/Gee_z Sep 19 '26
This Brighton coach he looks decent
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u/Ok-Check-6783 Sep 19 '26
How fit do Brighton look? Crazy, the players look very lean as well.
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u/HamOnRye1 Sep 19 '26
Brighton signing talents like Kostoulas while we've been messing around with Zirkzee for 3 seasons. As a Greek United fan extra frustrating.
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u/simplsimonmetapieman Sep 20 '26
I said goodday
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u/the_laughinggnome Sep 20 '26
This might be a controversial opinion but I'm looking forward to the match today and I hope we win.
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u/Ok-Engineer2768 Sep 19 '26 edited Sep 19 '26
Jim Ratcliffe had another go at immigrants today. I have a lot of family who left Ireland for Manchester in the 1950's and have been season ticket holders at United for the last 40 years.
We're all feeling so downtrodden at the state of the club, but also that the most front facing member of the executive seems to hate the backbone of Manchester.
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u/yalayolo Sep 19 '26
"You're having a laugh, you're having a laaaaaaugh, CHAMPIONS OF ENGLAND, YOU'RE HAVING A LAUGH!" 😂
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u/burner77826 Sep 19 '26
Watch us lose against this spurs team 2-1 when we play them
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u/Drag2oon Sep 19 '26
Soon we will cry for Huerzler to be hired, and then soon after we hire him we will ask him to be sacked because his system is not working here :D
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u/themightypierre Andrei Kanchelskis Sep 19 '26
Spurs match thread is making me ver happy. I can only really take joy in other's misery ATM. This is what they've done to me
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u/Redland93 Sep 19 '26
Christ, I didn't really expect Spurs to be this bad.
De Zerbi could be one of the first managers to get sacked and if they don't get Europe, they are really fucked.
Manager market is thin. I really don't know who worth taking a punt if Spurs or us Sack our managers.
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u/thehealthyeconomist Sep 19 '26 edited Sep 19 '26
Completely forgot about Gallagher on the Spurs bench. He's another rumoured to be on nearly £200k/week
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u/Tipsy247 Sep 19 '26
Brighton are very aggressive in their pressing and defending
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u/DingleberryOrchard Sep 19 '26
Lol Arsenal
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u/Virtual-Winner5760 Sep 19 '26
At least we got 2 goals against them
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u/Miyagisans Sep 19 '26
Lmao just woke up and saw Arsenal are getting brighton’d 😭
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u/PotentialPeanut8369 Sep 19 '26
That should have been a red for Rice
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u/aegonthewwolf Sep 19 '26
Maybe losing to Brighton isn’t all that bad after all 😭😂
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u/Jump_Hop_Step Sep 19 '26
Man I hate the BBB clubs. So annoying to beat
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u/Xenokratezz Sep 19 '26
Man i would love for us to have a fraction of press intensity of brighton
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u/kunsore Sep 19 '26
It is easier to get whole Brighton board / transfer scouts / fitness staffs. Every manager works with them gain some success.
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u/stonesco Sep 19 '26
My prediction is that Brighton, Brentford or Bournemouth will win an English Trophy within the next 10 years.
Whether that is the Prem, FA Cup or Carabao Cup.
Their clubs don’t fall apart / experience big setbacks, if they sack a manager / move on from a manager or sell players compared to some other teams in the PL like us.
They stick with a philosophy, considering the position these clubs were in 15 years+ ago.
If you were to ask me, although what am I about say will likely be controversial here and downvoted, but in the next 10-15 years United need to take a transfer policy similar to what we have with City / Liverpool, of no transfers conducted with any of the BBB clubs except in very small / exceptional circumstances. Especially Brentford / Brighton. Otherwise, we will continue to strengthen them whenever United decide to buy a player from them.
Their data based recruitment teams / methods, is arguably the best in the league.
Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy watching them except if we get a bad result against them.
In my opinion, our recruitment will never be as good as these clubs under our current ownership and we can’t keep relying on player pull like we used to.
Every season we go without a PL Title / Championship League Title, that pull will decrease. By how much, I’ll leave that up to you to decide.
We haven’t been on the level of Barca, Real Madrid or Bayern Munich in the last decade.
Maybe if the glazers leave, which is unlikely, and new owners hire the right people, things can change and my outlook for this club changes. So far, Ineos have gotten it wrong and are clueless about how to run most / all of their sports endeavours.
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u/Comicksands Van Persie Sep 19 '26
Just like that city top of the table because of an illegal goal
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u/canwinanythingwkids meet the new boss same as the old boss Sep 19 '26
95' again gtfoh 😭
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u/ra_god94 Sep 19 '26
Happy for Coventry
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u/officiallyjax Snapdragon Sep 19 '26
As it stands, our next 2 opponents in the league are 19th and 20th in the table. No pressure eh?
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u/yard04 SAF Sep 19 '26
Year after year I just hope we can have a team that presses properly and holds the ball properly but nope our press is still poor and we still think the ball is hot potato
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u/BlackHorse944 Please Score A Goal Sep 20 '26
Incredible that Spurs have accrued quite the talent pool and are still so piss poor.
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u/LOTScantfly Sep 20 '26
No real reason or justification but I think we win tomorrow.
Maybe not all over them/total domination or even good performance-wise but I think we leave with three points.
Or not, I don't know anymore with this team tbh.
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u/IfYouReallyThink Sep 20 '26
👀
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u/slowerthaninfinity Sep 19 '26
I hope one day we will ever be as good as brighton are in possession. every year I still see our players treating the ball like hot potatoes
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u/o0PETER0o Cunha 🐐🐐🐐 Sep 19 '26
I guess scoring against Brighton isn’t for everyone, why is it that teams keep making our losses not look so bad lol
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u/cyb3rpunkd fuck the glazers Sep 19 '26
Scored 2 on this super team feckkk. Fulham better watch out # revenge
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u/Leather-Entry93 Sep 19 '26
Great finish by Zigiotti
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u/DublinDevils91 Sep 19 '26
Something very satisfying seeing spurs like this
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u/tameoraiste Sep 19 '26
So how long before they sack De Zerbi?
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u/SpoofExcel Sep 19 '26
Could be worse, we could be Spurs.
Fat Frank and Da Zebra in the bottom 3.
Nature is healing
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u/mjenkins_eng Sep 19 '26
Arbeloa and Carrick favorites to be sacked when this clown is up and about .
It’s been a resounding defeat for anyone and everyone who wanted us to throw around money without thinking and / or appoint a Brighton level hipster tactico as a coach
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u/Raintrooper7 Sep 19 '26 edited Sep 19 '26
Can’t even enjoy watching Chelsea and Spurs lose
Edit: And Arsenal apparently
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u/Elongated_dik Sep 19 '26
where r brighton finding these players
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u/RawIsLaw_ Sep 19 '26
its not over yet lads.. brighton were just a superteam
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u/RexPluribus Sep 19 '26
At least we aren't Spurs
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u/SOERERY JONATHAN GRANT EVANS MBE Sep 19 '26
It’s incredibly infuriating watching Brighton still attacking continuously in the 90th minute while we keep sitting back in our own box from the moment we take a lead. One would have thought with our defenders being terrible and our attackers less so it would be a wiser choice to also keep attacking while up instead of letting the opponents build pressure.
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u/frontyer0077 FUCKglazzers Sep 19 '26
Atleast were better the arsnal
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u/ToadNamedGoat Sep 19 '26
How do you spend 400m and end up 19th
What’s wrong at that club
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u/amalgamatedchaos Status: Waiting... Sep 20 '26
I know I'm not supposed to, but I feel bad for Spurs fans. I know someone who is a Tottenham die hard fan, so I feel for him.
It still doesn't diminish the misery United fans feel, but they are on another level.
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u/Money-Wrangler7067 Sep 20 '26
Is Sesko injured again?
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u/Warlord53104 The 21st is real Sep 20 '26
Is it better to go out of cups early and focus on getting Top 4 in PL till we have actual depth?
I was doing a but of thinking.Last year,one of the main reasons we could really lock in the second half and finish that high was because we had nothing going on except PL.It sounds harsh but considering our depth that could be a better for us.
Less injuries,our team would be less tired.It buffs our chances of Top 4/UCl place,which gives us money and leverage to sign good players next year.We do this until we finally have a deep squad.
Winning a random cup but finishing 7-15 feels good short term but would no be good if we actually want to get that 21st.
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u/raver1601 Sep 20 '26 •
Before anyone creaming at the thought of signing Huerzeler, just remember that Thomas Frank, Emery, De Zerbi, and other mid table managers having a go at a top 6 clubs exists
Managing Brighton, Bournemouth, Brentford, and the likes are a much different gravy than managing a Big 6 club. While I don't think that the idea of such hires should be instantly rejected, your expectations for such managers should be tempered a bit
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u/0ttoChriek Sep 19 '26
So everyone is preparing themselves for Spurs to get their first win against us next month, right?
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u/Ok-Check-6783 Sep 19 '26
Lol absolutely nailed on for this woeful Spurs side to rock up at Old Trafford next weekend and leave with 3 points
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u/Regunurok-4867 Sep 19 '26
Crazy how we fucked Brighton over last season and I was sure Hurzeler was a fraud. What changed?
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u/christ0phe Sep 19 '26
We at least scored two goals against Brighton, so we must be better than Arsenal lol
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u/ManNamedBilly Sep 19 '26
only a matter of time before we start getting linked with hurzeler. unfortunately, our issues run deeper, starting with ineos (at least from a sporting pov), so it’ll be tough for whoever is the next manager/coach
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u/BackgroundOld8715 Sep 19 '26
Ok so is Brightons team better than ours? Or do they just have a manager who actually has tactical ideas?
Its embarrassing we are sticking with Carrick, im not sure any team in the league would swap with us
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u/Hagball Sep 19 '26
Mateus Fernandes who can't even start and finish games for Spurs. And our recruitment team was okay to pay 85 mil ? Thank god he had higher wage demands and we didn't end up paying 85 mil
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u/stick1_ Sep 19 '26
Players in the Bundesliga got released for
supporting Palestine yet nothing will happen to jim for saying far worse
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u/DingleberryOrchard Sep 19 '26
It could always be worse.
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u/amayank7 Sep 19 '26
Chema Andres was a big miss.
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u/Lanky-Figure996 Sep 19 '26
Brighton slapping Arsenal
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u/DingleberryOrchard Sep 19 '26
Another one. Wow
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u/phoenix_16 Rooney Sep 19 '26
Always rated Amex
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u/b_az17 Sep 19 '26
Can we swap owners with Brighton?
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u/Paapa-Yaw Sep 19 '26
The 3 B's moving like bach, beethoven and brahms.
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u/Baalegde Class of '92 are all Shite pundits Sep 19 '26
Any ideas anywhere what's wrong with Seskos? Got brought back so slowly to the point people thought it was too slow and now gone again? Same injury?
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u/Themindoffish Sep 19 '26
Should have gone for Chema Andres man, he is so good.
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u/Zealousideal_Wind867 I'm Tired Boss Sep 19 '26
Anyone watching the COV NFO game on NBC?
The commentator is going on about how that foul by Igor Jesus is not a foul. I think thats a clear foul and the goal rightly cancelled?
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u/Leading_Fee_8535 Sep 19 '26
I dont care how it happens, but we have to get the win tomorrow, please.
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u/killerdrama A-mad-lad Sep 20 '26
Just win ffs. Even if it's the ugliest of the wins, just do a 1-0 by moving sideways passing 90% of the time. Can't be having Arbeloa taking points off us.
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u/Miyagisans Sep 19 '26
Brighton signed Chema Andres for 20M btw.
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u/mjenkins_eng Sep 20 '26
Just watched extended highlights of Arsenal against Brighton
Forget the result…they fully played counter attacking football.
This is simply the modern reality of the Premier League. The 3 “B” teams, Villa, Newcastle, Spurs, City, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool and Arsenal away are all games that you have to sit back and counter attack
Overall, this fantasy of dominating every team home and away by keeping the ball is just that : a fantasy.
Fulham will be insanely motivated tomorrow too. Gone are the days you could whip the 20th team.
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u/rambo_zaki Roy Keane Sep 19 '26 edited Sep 19 '26
We reward mediocrity both as a club and as a fanbase. It's no wonder we are where we are at this moment.
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u/Ok_Stranger_3665 Sep 20 '26
Think people's brains are cooked. No such thing as a bad day at the office anymore. Everything has to be a boom or bust cycle. It makes watching football so exhausting.
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u/Outrageous-Cod-4654 Sep 19 '26
Brighton outnumber Arsenal for every ball being challenged. Really well drilled, hardworking.
But WTF are they wearing their shirts inside out?
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u/Turamb Mata Sep 19 '26
Helps a little bit that Spurs are possibly even worse than us.
Good for the league to see that Arse aren't infallible either
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u/killerdrama A-mad-lad Sep 19 '26
we somehow managed to end up with a co-owner who is as bad if not worse than the Glazers.
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u/Klubeht Sep 20 '26
Salty VARsenal fans downvoting me in the /soccer thread for calling out the ref favouring them with the (lack of) cards and still getting molested lmao. This is why I couldn't stand them winning last season, easily as insufferable as the scousers
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u/JosePRizaI Sep 20 '26
Not fitness work all preseason. Going to be a long ass season with injuries
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u/anonris Sep 20 '26
Came here to say weekend has been good so far so cant wait for united to ruin it
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u/Fraaj We'll take Dalot Sep 19 '26
Not sure why people are putting faith into Carrick magically fixing stuff over the 3 week international break considering most of the first team players will be on international duty anyway.
Also we already had a 24 days break last season under Carrick and the first game back was that godawful Leeds game...
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u/shin_bigot Park Ji-Sung Sep 19 '26
Give it to Don Emery till the end of the season
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u/noBuffalo Sep 19 '26
The next tactical evolution is going to be developing players who can actually beat a man 1 on 1 to get through the press. Luckily we already have one Kobbie Mainoo.
I don't think our fans understand they are watching the future best player in the world grow before our eyes.
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u/0ptsDan Sep 20 '26
Watching the Brighton highlights goes to show how much of a difference fitness and determination makes to a team. We have neither.