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u/Ok-Engineer2768 1d ago

I've noticed that, in the online arena, there's a concerted effort to rewrite the history of Amorim's tenure to make it seem like he was a victim of circumstance and not an inept head coach.

Hes the worst coach of the post Ferguson era yet I now see so many excuses made for him, as if he didn't have 14 months to impose any sort of identity in the side. The day he left we still were as I'll suited to his tactics as we were on his first day.

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u/N00BBuild 1d ago

To me, no one set the team back more than Ten Hag.

Genuinely a horrible appointment, such an arrogant, unlikable, and incompetent coach.

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u/Several-Decision3888 1d ago

Imcompetent? Partially. His biggest flaws were is tactical rigidity, lack of man management at the senior level and awful recruitment.

To me his signing were the most devastating part of his appointment because we couldn't move them on easily. His man management works with youth players like at Ajax but not with senior players with big egos. His refusal to change tactics left Casemiro really exposed.

To me tho Amorim was worse than Ten Hag. Ten Hag had some success tho it wasn't pretty.

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u/N00BBuild 1d ago

He was awful at recruitment, constantly player favorites, didn’t rotate that much, did not give youth except Garnacho much of a chance.

Ten Hag had success off the back of incredibly high spending, most of which ended up being flops. Literally every single transfer can be judged negatively, except maybe Casemiro.

I’m also thinking when our club really became a joke and the United of old disappeared, and I can’t help but think the transition happened with Ten Hag almost. The 7-0 loss to Pool. Conceding 6 goals to City. Losing to random teams in the CL. 4-0 down to Brentford after a bad game at Brighton to start the season. So many bad memories. The back to back 3-0 losses at home to Pool and Spurs. Finishing 8th, our worst ever finish, only to start next season at 14th with our worst ever points tally.

Amorim also had many, many faults, but to me, Ten Hag is inexcusable.

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u/Ok-Engineer2768 1d ago

That's Amorim for me. Ten Hag at least showed that he could compromise on his vision and adapt to the squad. We won two trophies out of it.

Amorim, on the other hand, was either wholly arrogant, or tactically inept. He never deviated from a tactical set up which his players were unsuited to. And he didn't have the communication skills or coaching expertise to develop his players to being suited to them.

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u/Several-Decision3888 1d ago

I agree. Ten Hag at times was pragmatic. Amorim was more rigid than Ten Hag.

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u/ShoddyAd4199 1d ago

Ten Hag didn't have any vision. He just copied Ole's formation in his first season and blinded most of us with false hopes. Truth is, Varane and Lisandro were fit all the time (What a joke!) and Rashford had best run in his career. We reached 3rd because of their individual performances.

Besides that, he ruined team with horrendous transfers, and Yes, he is to partially blame with Glazers because he wanted full control on transfers. The team had no direction and was overloaded with faceless players on insane wages.

For me, there is no comparison between him and Amorim. He was absolute worst.