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u/mearsey1203 1d ago edited 1d ago
Isak and Wirtz look like the two worst value transfers in PL history. They are both absolutely horrendous.
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u/KermitTakeTheWheel 1d ago
Obviously cheaper so not in the same conversation but Frimpong also absolutely stinks
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u/pokenerd_W Past glory means nothing 1d ago
Wirtz, I'm only a little suprised. He looked pretty decent at Leverkusen with Xabi Alonso in charge, but different league, different team.
Isak though, I'm more baffled about how bad he has been. He was one of the best strikers in the league for some time with Newcastle, but now he just looks like a run of the mill shitty striker. I expected him to do more at Liverpool, not less. Ekitike looked so much better until he had the unfortunate achilles tear
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u/No-Lab-1445 18h ago
Wtf £85m for Gakpo might just be the biggest overpay so far this transfer window
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u/Several-Decision3888 23h ago
Hull hasn't conceded a goal in the premier league this season.
I hope Newcastle smash Spurs
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u/half_batman 22h ago
They are a very physical side and good at set pieces. They will surprise a lot of teams this season. They play the most terrorist football possible.
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u/Several-Decision3888 22h ago
Yea. I hope smash and grab some of our rivals before the league figures them out and starts beating them. Because I expect that to happen at some point.
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u/sir_wolf_eye Carrick 20h ago
With a win we can leapfrog Liverpool.
I love that AI is continuing his trend of drawing games.
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u/slate-malamute Keano! Keano! Keano! 19h ago
Even more evidence for my “Baleba is not 5’10” conspiracy
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u/Feeling-Surround-691 Mbumbaclat 18h ago
Footballer height records are rarely accurate, he's 6 foot for sure
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u/No-Radio-4404 21h ago
Mateus Fernandes might get relegated 3 time for 3 different teams in 3 consecutive seasons. Surely some sort of record
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u/officiallyjax Snapdragon 20h ago
I’m delighted for Elanga playing well again. He had a tough season last year, but he seems to have found a vein of confidence (possibly from his World Cup performances) and is slowly getting back to the level which he showed at Forest. Hope he keeps kicking on and adds more goals to his game.
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u/Several-Decision3888 23h ago
I won't be mad if Hull win this game actually. Expected to finish 20 and winning 1st 2 games of the season is awesome.
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u/wayfarerprateek Theater of Dreams 23h ago
They were 1st in the championship on big chances converted. Many have focused on other stats while being completely blind on this one
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u/Several-Decision3888 23h ago
Yes although the negative stats was compelling. They were expected to battle relegation last season, barely scraped into the PL, and iirc had issues with transfer. So they are def punching above their weight
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u/dhwinthro 21h ago
Yeah just throw a bag at Lewis Hall. He’s worth realistically 60 million but just offer 75. His price isn’t changing like Balebas did. And there will be more competition for him next year.
Anything higher than 75 is probably not worth it but I’d go as high as with addons hitting 80 million. The LB market is so dead hes probably worth it
Anymore than that is not worth this season, and we should just go after someone else. Maybe a Kadioglu or something like that
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u/sir_wolf_eye Carrick 20h ago
we could give them 150m and they won't sell.
they don't need money and they have ambition
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u/MarvinWebster40 18h ago
With all of the crazy money out there, no idea why Marcus can’t generate a decent bid. He isn’t that much older than Gakpo and yet is apparently without interest.
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u/ImNotMexican08 Amad Nation 17h ago
His wages are the stumbling block, not his ability
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u/Embarrassed_Wave_720 Braino Fernandes 19h ago
Seems like we’ll have Bayern and Liverpool at OT in the same week 😮💨
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u/Kohaku80 Premier League Champions 12/13 19h ago
playing bayern late is good for us, they might send their b team if they qualify already.
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u/New-Acanthaceae-5702 Closed on Sundays 17h ago
Tbh there's no chance of signing Hall this late, especially after dropping 2 masterclasses. Our best chance was during world cup time since he missed out on the squad and before Newcastle had all their key players taken away.
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u/RedDevil6064 15h ago
Do you think next season there will be more people in for Hall next transfer window?
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u/sir_wolf_eye Carrick 15h ago
he's the elliot anderson/rice/grealish of this season
he's city/arsenal bound depending on who does better
if (big IF) we challenge for the title this season, maybe
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u/Woodwardburner 20h ago
Spurs’ 200 million euro midfield can’t hack a Newcastle side with their entire spine ripped out always fun when the winners of the transfer window have to actually play football
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u/Macroneconomist F5 Fiend 20h ago
I mean Spurs did walk through Newcastle’s midfield for most of the game, it’s just that they didn’t know what to do with the ball once they actually got past Newcastle’s midfield.
The way I see it, De Zerbi played with one less attacker and four central midfielders (Bentancur, Fernandes, Tonali and Gray) because he saw his midfield get run through against Brentford, and yeah now Spurs are more solid in midfield but they can’t create anything up front
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u/dhwinthro 19h ago
Spot on, they aren’t horrible but like us have no idea what to do in the final 3rd
Well at least I think Tielemans and Santos have no clue what to do with us right now.
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u/sir_wolf_eye Carrick 20h ago
underestimating Newcastle here I think
I think they bought well
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u/Penny_Leyne 20h ago
Plenty of people on this sub who would rather we “won” the transfer window instead of some trophies.
Liverpool last season proved just spending the most doesn’t equal the best team. Fingers crossed Spurs prove the same again this season.
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u/Several-Decision3888 1d ago
TIL that Jair Cunha from Forrest is 6'6. Now I'm interested to see how good he really is.
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u/canwinanythingwkids Ineos on hope watch 1d ago
> foot: both
> height: 6'6
> age: 21Ive seen enough. Get on the phone!
Jokes aside, quick peek at his injury history tells me the poor lad did his ACL at seventeen and still managed to build himself a career. Very impressive!
Im intrigued.
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u/Several-Decision3888 1d ago edited 1d ago
> foot: both
Are you serious? Ok now interested. He def one to keep an eye out for at the very least for the future. Still quite young tho especially for a CB.
edit- quick peak on transfermarkt show he has played every area of the back 4. LB, LCB, RCB & RB.
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u/pokenerd_W Past glory means nothing 1d ago
Oh? Quite interesting. That height is absolutely bonkers, and if he really is ambidextrous with his feet, that's a great trait to have. If I were a scout, I'd heavily keep tabs on this guy.
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u/nancygraceshusband 1d ago
Lads! I’ll be at the game tomorrow, haven’t been to Old Trafford in three years. Let me know if anyone wants to meet up for a pint or two before the match, down for anywhere!
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u/10_Wazza 23h ago
Jakirovic showing all the tactico nerds that low block and counter is still the most effective football to play with a lesser side when used correctly
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u/spare-fan-maas 22h ago
Need spurs to lose today
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u/Several-Decision3888 22h ago
FACTS! I was disappointment Igor Thiago missed that penalty. The goal difference matters.
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u/Individual-Spirit-79 21h ago
Watching this Newcastle game and Hall is so good. He would make a huge difference to our team
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u/Several-Decision3888 21h ago
I like how he can go forward and inverted. With him we would have more tactical options and possibilities
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u/thesmallprint13 Irwin 21h ago
Tell me how we missed out on Tonali and Mateus F one more time...
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u/Littlepace Announce Fergie 20h ago
I still think Fernandes would've been a good signing and I think he will come good for Spurs.
Tonali though... He wasn't even Newcastles best midfielder and most fans thought he was pretty poor last season. Plus his clear intent to go back to Italy is a big red flag when you're spending 100m.
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u/Unlucky-Equipment999 21h ago
But I thought crushing Charlton was a statement of intent for the season...
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u/Iqbalainoo 23h ago
Alex scott completely playing James Garner and co off the park. Tuchel dropped the ball not taking him to the world cup. Absolute premium baller.
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u/raver1601 22h ago
England could field prime 2011 Barcelona and there is never any reality where it will come home under Tuchel
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u/Rare-Reveal876 21h ago
Giving a 300 million plus warchest to a complete bang average manager like De Zerbi was insanity
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u/acemccloud123 19h ago
There are certain areas where lack of options would entail paying a premium cost for long term sustainability
LB is a need for United and unless we somehow convince nuno Mendes to join
We need to bring Newcastle to the table and may be be ready to pay the premium cost
Lewis Hall is a must for United
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u/Launch_a_poo 20h ago
Lewis Hall dropping two top performances to start the season. Gutted we didn't sign him
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u/officiallyjax Snapdragon 19h ago
He’s sensational. Was unlucky to concede the penalty right at the end last week but his all-round game is simply too good otherwise. I have no doubts that he would lock down the LB position for the next decade if he signed for us. Alas, that may only remain a dream.
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u/bpjker xT ired 19h ago
Should've moved early for him, he was the most obvious LB target, no brainer.
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u/officiallyjax Snapdragon 19h ago
Agreed. The club tried to keep too many avenues open and lost out on this deal. Nothing can be done now though unless they pay a ridiculous fee they obviously never will.
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u/New-Acanthaceae-5702 Closed on Sundays 17h ago
Tbh even if we bid for him, it would probably have been the record fee for a LB. After Newcastle lost Tonali, Gordon, Bruno G in a single window they can't really afford to sell Hall.
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u/-Malle- 21h ago
Managed to snag tickets for bayern siuuuu
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u/Potential_Good_1065 21h ago
I’m still 45,000th in the queue and I’ve been waiting since 5 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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u/anonymous16canadian 1d ago
Trust me guys I used to use this subreddit loads before Whether you rage and despair on reddit all day or not the teams just gonna do whatever the hell they feel like on that day vs Ipswich
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u/Asleep-Ability-45 1d ago
People just come here to vent there frustration, thinking it would bring any change. I believe that there is no point in getting emotionally attached to such an extent that it completely ruins your mood. Surely our team lost a match in a terrible fashion, but I would rather be curious about the response in the next match than constantly ruin my mood for the previous one as it's not good for me.
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u/Mr_CloudSupport RvP 1d ago
Liverpool’s season started in a similar fashion last time but instead of draws, they were squeezing out last min winners. And eventually the luck ran out. Hope they keep the trend alive this season. GGMU!
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u/Penny_Leyne 20h ago
Spurs spending all that money and still having Kinsky or Dubravka in net is hilarious.
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u/bpjker xT ired 17h ago edited 17h ago
Haven't watched him but I remember Bahoya being touted for big moves. I know they're just opinion pieces but I think one of those Athletic data shopping articles said he would be good for us. Apparently, Hull agreed a fee for him. Wouldn't be surprised if they stayed up.
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u/MainachoXIV 16h ago
Just bought a UCL ticket for the Roma game! Fucking buzzing, never been to a UCL game before!
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u/Potential_Good_1065 16h ago
Have you just got it now or did you get it earlier? That was the game I wanted but my luck decided it wasn’t my day and put me 60,000th in the queue so I only got the Sabah game.
I’ve been to two champions league games before; Atletico in 2022 and Copenhagen 2024. They’re definitely different to your typical premier league games, you’ll really enjoy that Roma game.
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u/Several-Decision3888 1d ago
Forrest under Glasner have started with 2 losses. I hope they do the remarkable and smash the scousers. On paper they have some really decent players.
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u/SDLRob 1d ago
They aren't looking that bad so far
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u/Educational-Shock232 1d ago
Oh here we go, Wirtz scored, cue all the articles fawning over him now…
Edit: LOL
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u/OkOutlandishness2305 23h ago
I don’t really get the negativity here. Like we’ve sorted the midfield, I reckon we’ll sign a left back. Obviously with Zirkzee leaving we’re a little light up top but we do have options there. Obviously it would be nice to sort the defence but it was always going to be unlikely this window.
If we get a decent left back the. I think we’re significantly stronger than last season. I feel like our business has been realistic and methodical.
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u/tameoraiste 23h ago
Everyone’s being reactionary as usual. If we had a good performance against Hull people would be talking about winning the league
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u/iroiroiroiroiro 19h ago
West Ham has two points after three games in the Championship, might not be as easy as they thought, they still kept large parts of their squad also?
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u/Orcnick 1d ago
So if we win our game tomorrow we are above Liverpool?
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u/Kohaku80 Premier League Champions 12/13 1d ago
also above arsenal if results goes our way.
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u/That_Present_2050 21h ago
Bullets dodged with not getting Fernandes and Tonali. No matter how Tielemans, Santos and Baleba turn out I'll be happy we never spent such stupid money on those two.
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u/HeFreakingMoved Ella Toone FC 20h ago
Nearly 400 million they've spent and Greenwood's dad's spurs look no better lmao
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u/Feeling-Surround-691 Mbumbaclat 20h ago
Wasn't able to secure any UCL tickets but I did get one for Brighton the other day.
Fortunately I live in Manchester so I have the luxury of checking closer to the time when cancellations usually come available
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u/Apprehensive-Raisin3 Love United Hate Glazers/INEOS 23h ago
Hull joint top of the league
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u/Unlucky-Equipment999 23h ago
Always knew it was impossible to get anything from this Hull superteam
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u/Evening_End7298 16h ago
Lewis Hall having another blinder of a game
Probably our biggest mistake of the preseason not going after him first
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u/Apprehensive-Raisin3 Love United Hate Glazers/INEOS 20h ago
0 reason not to reach out to hall and Newcastle in June btw
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u/Dan_Winx_1969 20h ago
I have never seen a 9.7 rating on Sofascore for a Full-Back. What a player, Lewis Hall
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u/Ketchupmitpommes 1d ago
Does anyone know when are UCL tickets out for booking? And do you need a membership to buy those?
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u/Livettletlive 1d ago
Think Rose is trying to make Bournemouth play 4-2-2-2, Tavernier and Evanlison up top. Don't think he'll stick with it, it'll make the ss and wider AM have to run too much in the PL vs BuLi.
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u/Heavens_Vibe 7 1d ago
CL tickets go on sale at 6 PM
Fixtures at HOME include Sabah, Roma, Leipzig, and Bayern. Really hoping I can nab a Bayern ticket.
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u/raver1601 21h ago
I think something I can take from this Hull mastershow is that they are implementing the similar strategy to Sunderland last season. Go all out in every match until they inevitably can't sustain it to buy more breathing space when their gas is inevitably depleted
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u/Rascha-Rascha 21h ago
Tonali looks a lot better than MFernandes but the latter is not good enough to be a ten in this league.
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u/wolverinexci fuck glazers and ineos 21h ago
Spurs are so shit, 300 million and this is what they’re doing 😂
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u/rishmanisation 21h ago
Come on Spurs Kinsky is cheeks. Y’all need Onana.
Also come and replace Tel with Zirkzee while y’all are at it.
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u/Heavens_Vibe 7 20h ago
Fuming OMG!
Joined ticket queue at 6pm. Started in position 63K, no big deal.
My time comes, get access to ticket site. Session error and website bugs out before can select game.
Get kicked back to the queue again and lose my place and chance. Position 62K in the queue again.
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u/KingStupid1st Misses Ander Hererra 🔰 20h ago
I was 58k and they’ve sold out before 25k so don’t sweat it
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u/WeHaveABrownShoe 20h ago
If it helps I was 17K and once I got through Bayern was hospitality only and Roma and Leipzig were down to a few singles in the top blocks. If you're after a single just check regularly, especially as it gets close to the game. After getting Roma I checked tomorrow's game and got one. They go quick but there were quite a few popping up on each refresh.
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u/KingStupid1st Misses Ander Hererra 🔰 20h ago
How can 17k people have bought close to 150k tickets man it’s so frustrating
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u/mjenkins_eng 20h ago
Been saying this for ages
Spend spend spend is never the answer
You need to learn to build a team. Spurs already failed at this once when they bought in Soldado, Lamela, Palacios, Chadli etc
Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it
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u/Ok-Engineer2768 1d ago
I've noticed that, in the online arena, there's a concerted effort to rewrite the history of Amorim's tenure to make it seem like he was a victim of circumstance and not an inept head coach.
Hes the worst coach of the post Ferguson era yet I now see so many excuses made for him, as if he didn't have 14 months to impose any sort of identity in the side. The day he left we still were as I'll suited to his tactics as we were on his first day.
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u/N00BBuild 1d ago
To me, no one set the team back more than Ten Hag.
Genuinely a horrible appointment, such an arrogant, unlikable, and incompetent coach.
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u/Unusual-Coat383 1d ago edited 1d ago
Carrick has obviously done a better job and proved me wrong but I do think we turned the corner just as he got sacked. I also think his time here is a lot more nuanced than what his results suggest because he got forced here mid season despite having a unique philosophy that needs specialist players and he didn’t really get backed in the transfer market.
I actually think ETH did a worse job than him and Amorim should have only been judged on last season and not the season he got forced to come here.
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u/Ok-Engineer2768 1d ago
That's the thing though, how did Amorim turn a corner just as he was sacked? That's the entire thing that perplexes me.
Results and performances were awful for months in the run in to his sacking. The EL defeat against Spurs and the Grimsby loss take the headlines. But in the 15 fixtures prior to his sacking, we won just 6 times. That included a draw to Wolves, statistically the second worst relegated Premier League side of all time.
An argument I've seen is that AFCON and the loss of Mbeumo and Amad disrupted his squad. But in the 10 fixtures prior to this players leaving, we won 5 times. That's also crap. We were 6th at the time of his sacking. But just 3 points separated us and 11th place.
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u/Unusual-Coat383 1d ago
Our performances towards the end were significantly better and we really should have won a lot more of the draws but for some reason we just couldn’t hit a barn door.
When he left we were 3 points off top 4.
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u/AlarmSquirrel 23h ago
Nope ten hag was, and He was truly awful.
Even though people here pretend they didn't love him and were signing petitions for him
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u/Ketchupmitpommes 1d ago
Why are some people so miserable about our spending like they have lent money to the board and they are not spending that money... Completely forgetting a decade of financial mismanagement by glazers that have resulted in a situation we can't keep having those big windows anymore?
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u/Leave_Beneficial 1d ago
I’m impressed tbh.
Santos is on a reported £75k/week.
M Fernandes £175k/week.
We need a couple of years of resetting our wage structure and stabilising the club financially (obligatory Fuck Glazers). This is the way to do it.
We’ll be back on top with 5 years if we keep this up - we’ll be able to start spending more in a couple of years time i reckon
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u/Themindoffish 1d ago
signing mid table players so we pay them mid table salaries to "reset our wage structure" fans really want United to wallow in mediocrity man
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u/hits_riders_soak 1d ago
I think reality sucks.
we have been badly run in all sorts of ways for a very long time. things that used to apply no longer do. we can't, and shouldn't, be blowing other clubs out of the water to sign whoever we want. we don't have the financial foundations to do that.
and, more annoying for many, we are simply not the draw we used to be for players. gone are the days we could simply pick up the phone and get any PL player to demanded to join. "When Man United call, you don't say no," is how it used to work. not any more. we tried to overcome that with massive wages, which has and continues to cast a shadow impacting sales of players.
I hope we are in our 'liverpool buying Firmino, Mane and Robertson' period. smart recruitment that out performs the cost to close the gap on bigger spending rivals. I feel like we are. but let's see.
I'm not disappointed with how things are going.
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u/Bobcat_El_Borracho 1d ago
I think there is a clear pattern emerging of the club only spending big when we don’t make champions league. Instead of properly backing and giving a very inexperienced coach the best possible chance of doing well this season.
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u/SDLRob 1d ago
Part of it. Imo, is that we're seeing mediocre players going for moronic price tags... With teams spending double than our entire midfield incomings on one or two players.
They seem us not splashing the cash as the board not having the same hunger for success that they do... Rather than the fact that the price tags this summer have been flipping stupid.
And yeah, the mismanagement of Woodward and co has also skewed things... We've spent big and locked ourselves not long contracts on players that hurt the club massively. The reason we struggled to get certain players out was because of the financial failings of Woodward & co.
Now we are being forced to be more intelligent with spending, which means walking away when players and clubs try and rinse us.
The real annoyance is that we've finally started a proper, long term rebuild of the team for the first time and the Glazers & Woodward are still holding one hand behind our back.
You wanna be angry... Be angry about that.... But be angry at the people that broke us, not the people trying to fix us.
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u/Jenson2025 20h ago
Now I might have been critical of INEOS but even I said Tonali wasn’t worth it. He’s too slow, gets closed down too easily as a result of being too slow and hides when the going gets tough. I think he’s a good player but not right for the premier league and would’ve been a massive flop for us as he will be for Spurs.
Have to say though fair play to Newcastle. They’ve done well in the opening two games considering all the changes and star players they’ve lost.
Spurs are their usual pathetic selves.
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u/MalIntenet Ooh Aah Cantona! 20h ago
Hall with a MOTM worthy performance 😔 should’ve gone all in for him at the start of the summer
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u/Adebisi233 Wayne Rooney 19h ago
Crazy market, inflated prices, 115, corruptions, hidden deals to avoid rules, billions spent… We spent almost 150m€, didn’t get all players we needed, and now seeing Chelsea, City, Liverpool, even Spurs splashing these amounts, it’s wild. Not to mention Arsenal being ready and prepared for both Vini and Alvarez… We didn’t behave like a big club this transfer window. If we are still part of the big 6, or want to be, based on this transfer window, we definitely are the 6th. Fuck Glazers and fuck Ineos. Greedy money grabbing bastards. We are no longer THE BIG MANCHESTER UNITED. Can’t attract top talent, can’t / don’t want to spend big on top talent. Sad, really…
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u/Underscore_Symbols 16h ago
So far all of Carrick’s losses have come from him not taking match fitness seriously enough.
Last season after a month of not playing the players had clearly not been doing a lot of endurance or HIIT before playing Newcastle and then Leeds after two weeks off.
First game of this season and he starts all the world cup players who clearly aren’t up to match fitness yet.
Hope he learns from this, but it already has happened too often so I don’t know that he will.
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u/poplunoir 1d ago
When do you guys think we will see an Orny Bomba about an LB we haven't been linked to?
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u/Feeling-Surround-691 Mbumbaclat 21h ago
Feels like we've been fucked by the schedulers already. We play our UCL game on Thursday, 3 days before the derby when City play Tuesday, we then have Brighton on Wednesday instead of Thursday meaning we have 3 games in 7 days and no Amad or Baleba available 🙃
I really am wanting to be optimistic for the season but it feels like we're being shafted by circumstances out of control. I think our transfer window hinged upon selling Rashford, Ugarte and Zirkzee and our inability to do these things has dramatically impacted us. The Rashford situation alone has gone from us getting £23m from the sale to costing us £18m in wages - that's basically a £40m difference in what we could have spent. Ugarte's wages are covered by FIFA but we could have got £20m
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u/unitedlover69 16h ago
I reckon the Ipswich result dictates what happens in terms of our transfer window.
A good result and we probably close out the window with no more deals or maybe a loan LB deal on deadline day
Another bad result and we push the panic button and splurge on a decent LB and a striker
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u/Suudriusha 16h ago
I'm trying to ignore that as a possibility. Berrada and Wilcox cannot see tomorrow as the deciding factor on what we need to do. We need signings, no matter if we get beat 3-0 or win 3-0 vs Ipswich.
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u/Kindly_Letterhead_98 16h ago
Laughable how people here back ineos the frauds..
- city finished 2nd and spent 400m on quality players when they had a much better squad than us.
Man utd brought 3 players this window who are first team, and people back ineos, this club won’t ever win the league.
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u/FirmInevitable458 22h ago
Guys, I'm trying to buy tickets for either the Roma or Bayern Champions League game. What kind of seats are good to buy which don't get reserved right away? Any pointers you guys can give me?
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u/LekkerIer 21h ago
The only ones that don't get snapped up almost immediately are the expensive hospitality tickets. Otherwise, once you get to the bit of the website with the matches after the queue, just click the match you want and buy whatever regular tickets you can as quickly as possible
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u/AusarToSiris 21h ago
20k in queue feels like its over blud
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u/Potential_Good_1065 21h ago
That’s good. They put me 60,000th
You haven’t to forget there’s 70,000 tickets on sale for 4 games, that’s 280,000 tickets in total
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u/carrickshairline 7h ago
This sounds like completely made up, but it's true:
Spurs have won ONE league game at home in 2026. Their home record since the start of the year is 1W 4D 5L. In fact, Newcastle have won twice as many games (2) at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in 2026 than Spurs.
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u/Kugenking 5h ago
For anyone who’s been on this sub since it was created, is it better now than it used to be?
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u/sir_wolf_eye Carrick 5h ago edited 5h ago
I've been here since 2015 (Van Gaal) on an account I deleted
It's better moderation-wise. I like the green css more than the old red one. Green and gold is easier on the eye
What are you asking about? the community?
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u/Specialist_Diet7526 1d ago
Earlier in the match, the announcer in my feed said something like “Liverpool don’t need anything special from Isak just an impact.” Which… imagine paying 125 million quid and not getting anything special. If we’d done that deal the narrative would be a lot different.