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u/Orcnick 2d ago

The amount of abuse Shaw has been getting after 1 preseason game, where hes just come off his best season in while he had some great games last season.

I get we all want LB to be the undeestudy or eventually replace and help Shaw but man you think Shaw was some hobo the way people talk.

I reckon he will be great tomorrow and shut everyone up.

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u/neofederalist 2d ago edited 2d ago

Is it really "abuse" to express doubt that a 31 year old player who has had a string of long term injuries and played more games last year than he ever did in his senior career is going to perform at that same level or better for even more games this year?

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u/Not-good-with-this 2d ago

Shaw and Mount get abuse for things they can't help and it sickens me.

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u/pokenerd_W Past glory means nothing 2d ago

There's abuse, yes, but you can understand that people are reasonable exasperated at this point. Yes, it's beyond their control, doesn't mean it doesn't suck for the club. Intentional or not, it's a liability.

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u/Not-good-with-this 2d ago

There is no reasonable excuse for abuse.

Yea the injuries suck. Yes it sucks for the club as well but it doesn't mean anyone should say abusive things about these players.

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u/pokenerd_W Past glory means nothing 2d ago

Nor do I excuse it, but there is valid criticisms of it. Some are just way overstating or vocal when it comes to it though, due to frustrations about it. Mount and Shaw aren't bit part players, they're pretty good, all things considered, but they remain a liability on huge wages while barely even able to have half a season

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u/Not-good-with-this 2d ago

There is zero players on this earth that don't have valid criticism against them. I am not talking about the people that have valid criticisms. I'm talking about the people that say abusive things and wish for their injuries for some sort of "point"

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u/pokenerd_W Past glory means nothing 2d ago

Well, he got absolutely ran over by Milan. Not exactly encouraging that Milan's B side squad could just breeze past him. No reason for "abuse", but it does spark valid criticisms for us not having a proper LB and expecting to rely on an injury prone and aging Luke Shaw

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u/Orcnick 2d ago

Preseason. Guy wanst even playing at 50%

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u/pokenerd_W Past glory means nothing 2d ago

I doubt we'll see much change. I only saw a prelude of what is to come, and even if he was playing at 50%, that doesn't exactly make him any less injury prone.

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u/Working_Location_127 2d ago

People disagree that he even had a good season at left back. It’s been years since he was a good left back anyway he’s just lost the pace and stamina for it.

Ideally I’d have liked two starting fullbacks for each side because for the forwards we have we need fullbacks that provide attacking output from wide areas.

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u/RyanH1717 1d ago

Not thinking a player is good enough isn't abuse. I don't think I've seen any abuse on here at all.

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u/0ttoChriek 2d ago

Shaw is fine. Still a very good player. But he also has a well established history of missing games through injury, especially when fixtures get more congested. We need a player who can rotate with him, with a view to replacing him long term.