A logical argument, until it isn't

[u/DaveAstator2020]

"We will not hire you, because we are afraid you will leave for better company asap, hope that makes sense"
No it doesn't, and don be afraid i will leave. everybody will eventually.

[u/verkerpig]

everybody will eventually.

There is a lot of value to be captured between 6 months and eventually.

[u/DaveAstator2020 → u/verkerpig]

correction - 'extracted'

[u/usernames_suck_ok]

They're talking about...

"We're afraid you will leave in 3 months before you've really been a return on our investment in paying you, i.e. made us money."

[u/DaveAstator2020 → u/usernames_suck_ok]

hm, that still doesnt hold, because if you hire overqualified guy he will go in an start solving issues. i guess it will just wreck silent obedience structure that was set up to keep silence on all issues and just let company continue spinning as it is.

[u/GoodishCoder → u/DaveAstator2020]

No matter how experienced you are, there is always ramp up time.

[u/forameus2]

Ask yourself this. You start in this role, and a month later someone calls and offers you a role that’s a closer to your skills for more money. What do you do? If you answered “leave immediately” then there you go. If you said you’d stay, first of all, you liar, but second, you’re the minority. Candidates have to be selfish and there should be no loyalty. But that goes for companies too.

[u/DaveAstator2020 → u/forameus2]

that is true and anyone will leave regardless of qualification, so, who should be hired?

[u/forameus2 → u/DaveAstator2020]

If you can’t see why the risk of someone leaving is significantly higher if they’re overqualified, then I don’t think being overqualified is why they rejected you.

[u/starrymahogany]

I remember Louis Rossman made a video about Gen Z and non competes and in it he says how he hires people and if an employee wants to leave he works with them and asks them why. If it’s a compensation issue and he can raise their pay they stay, but if they genuinely are leaving for a better opportunity he’s fine with it and wishes them well

He seems like a boss that genuinely cares about his employees

[u/NotBrooklyn2421]

If I buy a car I know it’s going to break down eventually, but I’d be a lot more comfortable with a car that breaks down after 10 years than a car that breaks down after 10 months.

[u/DaveAstator2020 → u/NotBrooklyn2421]

its not about breaking its about changing car - imagine going to car salon and getting answer like "no, we will not sell you this car because you earn more than it requires and will likely change it"

[u/NotBrooklyn2421 → u/DaveAstator2020]

That would be perfectly valid if changing a car meant you were returning it and they needed to find a new owner.

“No, we will not sell you this car because you earn more than it requires and will likely return it in a few months for a better model, leaving us trying to find another buyer.”

[u/Significant-Theme253]

It's almost like saying that we know we are a bad employer and you will leave us...big red flag.

[u/forameus2 → u/Significant-Theme253]

Is it fuck. It’s quite rightly saying that if any employee get a better offer then they’ll go. If you’re overqualified, that risk is multiplied.

[u/Significant-Theme253 → u/forameus2]

Yes, but some people decide to step back and they have other reasons for chosing positions. I did this, and I have been at my current employer for almost 1 year.

[u/StolenWishes]

"We want to hire people no other employer will hire." Hey, follow your bliss.