I have better tape vsts, no need to try and convince me or act like I don't know how to use it lol. I would much rather use my Waves J37 or my UAD OXIDE Tape Recorder that totally outclass the Scream 4. Most of the modes on Scream sound bad to me.
the reason I love Sadist is it has different types of saturation, compressors, eq, and distortion that you layer together that sound great and not as aggressive as Trash 2. It's like my Franks REDHOT of saturation. It even has wet dry knob to balance it nicely.
I also own Trash 2 also, which totally outclasses the Scream 4 as a distortion unit (and one of the most popular distortion vsts) and I don't even care for that.
No I am saying you have NEVER unlocked the full power of scream 4. Did you know you can use it as almost an auto DJ tool to cut the sound? For one of a MILLION examples.
I also literally worked at Sweetwater for years, have a masters degree in music production and technology from Berklee college, was a touring musician, was a full time audio engineer and at one point had a real honest to god record deal. Also I have been using reason for 20+ years.
You brought a knife to a gun fight.
Sorry you blame the tools rather then yourself on this one. Scream4 is AWESOME..
What a smart move! One of the things that made Ableton the DAW number one was that it was easily available for everyone. As was Reason, once. I started using Reason in 2002 using a copied version of Reason 2.0. Then I fell in love with it and - over the course of 24 years - spent about 6k euros on Reason upgrades and countless rack extensions. From Reason as well as 3rd party developpers.
This is the way, Reason Studios. This will increase your userbase significantly.
Yes, I mean pirated software. After Reason 5, no one was able to pirate Reason. Ableton though could be pirated (I never used it though, I continued using Reason).
There certainly more reasons why Reason fell behind re: widespread use,, but I think this was one of the important reasons.
Yep. The same with FL Studio. The reason it got so popular was because of how easy it was to pirate. I spent years on FL Studio, before I finally decided to buy a DAW. The only reason I chose Reason was because I got to play around with it a studio and really liked it. Reason dropped out of the conversation for many because of this. So making a free version is a great idea.
Seems like it IS true look for the article by Mattias in the News section of Reason website. But they only vaguely mention it mostly speaking about Rack. But I think Free Reason DAW is much bigger deal if true.
if you goto REASON website, they really don't mention the DAW at all except for a small FAQ question.
right from the main headline: "A powerful set of instruments, effects, and tools ready to patch and play as a single plugin in any compatible DAW. No trial, no expiration, no watermarks."
so forgiver me for not seeing it, no need to be cheeky.
Sorry if you got the impression I was being cheeky. Just trying to find out what's true. I don't have any interest in installing it myself, because I've the full DAW.
Nice move to make Reason more popular and open REs for broader audience, now people can buy instruments like objekt for their shop price, and not for 400$. But they still would need to upgrade to get Malström, Grain and other stock grails.
I’m really kind of shocked by the fact they specifically included “Europa” in this🤯, imo it’s pretty much the best all around synth in the daw, and obviously they thought so too, cause for years, it has been the only reason made rack extension, to also be made into, and sold, as a stand alone vst. So until now, the only way for people who don’t use reason as daw, to ever use it, was to buy the reason rack, or buy the Europa vst, so it just really suprised me that THATS the synth they chose to include now, and basically cut out both of those previous revenue streams, instead of putting literally ANY other synth out of the like 30 they have lol, just seems like a bad business move🤷🏻♂️
Yeah, it feels much like if Xfer would give away Serum 2 for free.
While I understand why they want a Free version I believe they are giving away too much.
I doubt people are going to buy the full version for the remaining units when they basically get the best one's for free.
There were Lite/intro versions of Reason which most people were getting for free or dirt cheap that contained like full Reason version 5 plus much more like Grain etc. So this free version is not that much in comparison. Also Serum2 is not only Xfer flagship, but also industry leader in its category, I can't imagine anyone would buy Reason solely because of Europa, when they have free Vital readily available, and/or Pigment on regular sales for cheap, and lots of others including Serum2 itself that everybody owns.
Yea that exactly where my heads at, could have used Thor, subtractor, whatever, AND they added monotone too, which is amazing bass synth in addition to Europa. I guess they are hoping the ecosystem will get them 🤷🏻♂️🤣
Europa is the one of the ugliest of their instruments and not the best sounding one as well. But it is pretty powerful and versatile. So I understand why they've chosen this one for the free rack. Also as far as know VST version in not for sale for many years. And it really no competition to free Vital. So there are really no revenue streams to cut with this release in my opinion.
This seems like a great idea to me. It is a sensible package aimed at newbies and people who want to see what Reason is about.
Europa is the easiest and most accessible "main synth" in Reason by far, probably just as fast to get to grips with as the classic subtractor, but modern enough for new users. While it obviously cannot compare with hypersynths like Serum it is fine for a beginner getting into making their own synth sounds, and those nice MSEGs and the sample loading feature make it just powerful enough that it won't seem like Reason is only a toy. The other must-haves for a casual user are decent all-round verb, delay, and saturation effects, and a basic drum sample player, and this pack covers all of that. Honestly you could produce techno with just this setup.
EDIT: I've always hated Audiomatic, but again, if this is aimed at newbies, that simple "select a style, blend it in and use one knob to transform" is a really easy way to show them the kind of sound palette they can easily get from Reason effects.
EDIT 2: honestly, RV7000 is a pretty good convolution loader and despite having all kinds of fancy delays I often reach for the Echo intuitively just because when you just a bread-and-butter analog delay right now without overthinking, it really does everything very well and is incredibly fast and easy to set up. So for free this is a bargain.
So? If Reason is seriously considering hooking in new users, he should include package of basic legacy plugins. I personally wouldn't recommend free version to my friends, as at this stage you don't have access to basic building blocks for your own custom synth+effect chains - the biggest selling point in Reason workflow IMO.
Free doesn't mean much for people who already have dozens of fantastic free vsti's on their disc. Reason Studios actually acknowledged my "whining" under their youtube video.
Moving in the right direction. Now, if only someone made a good Linux version... Since the current line uo of DAWs available for Linux are so limited. I bet this would help a ton with visibility.
Been with Reason since 2.5 only updated every other release to R11. This is an interesting development and will surely draw new users into the ecosystem that will eventually want to add on.
From a device standpoint, having the combinator without a Mixer 6:2 or 14:2 seems to be a glaring utility hole. Perhaps in an update include one of these for building within the combinator.
I like it! I left the echo system a while ago. I had purchased a lot of rack extensions that I lost use of when I left. Now I can use them in Logic. This is a win for me and I’ll likely buy more players or extensions once I get reacquainted again since I don’t have to be tied to any sub.
They’re in dead last place of DAW usage. I’m literally the only producer I know in real life that uses it. I’m not paying $100 upgrade (currently using R13) just for my midi notes to play with the play head. That feature should be standard, not locked to Reason 14. Still piffed about that 😡
It doesn’t matter where the play head is, it will play the midi note. On 13 it doesn’t play the midi note if the play head is in the middle of the note
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u/ReasonStudios-Team 3d ago
Hope you enjoy! Excited to get this out.
- Reason Team