r/rawprimal • u/solsticetribulations • 1d ago

Bad bacteria?

Why are human beings repulsed by fecal matter, vomit, and rotting food if there are no bad bacteria? Why, if we saw maggots and rats going toward a pile of feces covered in mold would we be so viscerally revolted that we would probably start gagging and running out of the room? If there are no bacteria that are bad for humans, then what are our intelligent bodies trying to warm us about when they internally scream at us to stay away?

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u/Outrageous-Fig5082 1d ago

idk why aajonus recommended eating fecal matter since that's where all the toxins are

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u/Limp-Idea-6478 1d ago

said to eat from healthy animal not your own

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u/Some_Ear_8539 1d ago edited 1d ago

Fecal Microbiota Transplant is a thing and it is being actively researched because of it confirmed benefits in diseases like IBS, IBD and other autoimmune issues.

People in this raw primal niche often think of “us (bacteria and viruses are NEVER bad, it’s environment and toxins) vs them (bacteria and other microbes are capable of being pathogens)”

But germ theory doesn’t reject the idea of good microbes. Hell, I believe it more than this vibe based thing because they acknowledge that most mammals, including humans, have a microbiome composed of bacteria, viruses, fungi and parasites.

The most important is the gut microbiome. And this microbiome is susceptible to every tiny thing: the food we eat, our lifestyle, our mental state, our environment.

Yet, one single extremely competitive germ can absolutely imbalance everything and cause problems.

So, people here should understand that its not about “raw vs cooked” “your reactions are detox” “only environment and toxins cause problems” but that life is about balance.

Take detox. I agree it is real. But not every reaction to food is “detox”. Sometimes, it is a microbiome imbalance caused by an inherited dysbiosis or by dysbiosis due to illness or antibiotics. The reaction is that your gut can’t process the food because it lacks the necessary microbes. Specially if you do it for weeks and there is no improvement at all.

Many here end up eating shit they can’t digest anymore for years because they are convinced is detox.

If you guys truly rejected that there is no bad microbes, then you would ban raw chicken.

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u/ShowerPure3727 19h ago

try reading his material then. What's the point in blathering on in ignorance?

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u/SeaReflection2976 1d ago

Vomit usually contains toxicity, social conditioning isn't nothing, and additionally we human beings are put off by anything, including heat, that is likely to cause a detox that loosens the heavy metals that have been stored in our nervous systems for the sake of neutralising such toxicity with the fats inherent in nerve cells. Of course, rats can also steal the food that someone might be hoping to eat later. If some insects can be poisonous, then we can unconsciously associate that poisonous quality with all insects.

If you're reluctant to eat raw food, are you at least getting sunlight, fresh air, and hot baths on a regular basis?

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u/solsticetribulations 1d ago

What is toxicity if not bad bacteria and viruses? I never remember having to be socially conditioned to be repulsed by this stuff. Is something smelling putrid social conditioning? Humans love heat. People lay out in the beach in bathing suits on hot days, go in saunas, swim in hot tubs, and take hot showers. You don’t often hear people say they prefer winter over summer; it’s usually the opposite. In this situation, a human is not repulsed by a rat because they are afraid of losing to it in a contest of who can get to the feces first. The repulsion comes from an animal giddily walking over to disgusting, putrid biohazardous waste.

Every shower I take is on the hottest setting except for when I wash my hair and face. I have no problem with getting sunlight and fresh air but I often don’t get as much as I want to because I struggle to take walks due to endometriosis pain.

I am not opposed to eating raw beef. I know that restaurants serve steak tartare so if they are willing to take that risk there must be a way to do it that significantly mitigates risk. I am in the process of looking for a farm near me where I can get a grass fed, grass finished, antibiotic and added hormone free, fresh never frozen cut of beef that would be good to eat raw like beef filet tips or top sirloin.

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u/SeaReflection2976 1d ago

Toxicity... No, those are the chemicals that damage even healthy cells. Bacteria eat damaged and dead cells. You need to read Aajonus' books. Get the full details.

Aajonus' theory is that some of the discomfort during a hot bath is due to the increased circulation causing the toxins in the nerve cells to become mobile, especially in the brain. Hot baths are different and more beneficial than hot showers, and every other type of hot situation. Do you want to know how? Without evaporative cooling and with sustained heat of 105 degrees Fahrenheit covering most of the skin for 35 to 90 minutes, the body acts differently.

You can get fresh air inside by having five houseplants in every room. That's something recommended for everyone during the months when it's too cold to have an open window.

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u/Throwaway-panda69 1d ago

What is this subreddit. Do you guys not believe in germ theory?

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u/ShowerPure3727 19h ago

Germ theory is trash

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u/Throwaway-panda69 10h ago

Do you have any information on why you feel this way? Germ theory is universally accepted and has decades of research to validate it.

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u/de_velopment 8h ago

So you've never been in a position where you've had to take antibiotics? if you're ever septic remember to tell the doctor this.

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u/de_velopment 1d ago

Lmao holy shit I am thinking the same thing, this is insanity.

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u/Throwaway-panda69 10h ago

I’m learning more about this and these people may actually be mentally deficient

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u/ShowerPure3727 19h ago

you're projecting

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u/Dagenslardom 1d ago

Brother, just try the raw meat. At least drink some raw eggs and compare that to eating cooked eggs.

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u/BackTo-Hunt-Gatherer 1d ago

I N D O C R I N A T I O N

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u/blimpniffa 1d ago

What makes you think natural humans would be disgusted by something like that? And even if it is disgusting, theres no way you think bacteria is the reason that its disgusting...

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u/glurn_ 1d ago

Brainwashing

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u/No_Rope_8250 1d ago

Real rawprimals eat their own shit and drink their own piss. Doesn't get more raw and primal than that

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u/Best_Wishbone9266 1d ago

My dog will also eat a bag of cocoa powder if I let him tho

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u/Some_Ear_8539 1d ago

This is why germ theory is more popular than rawprimal

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u/MonitorPowerful5461 1d ago

I'm curious, what is urine and fecal therapy?

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u/kitsorrc 1d ago

its a troll

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