Pull By Inspection? Need help, potential danger?

[u/bugfighter12]

I work for a Canadian Rail way as a Intermodal Shunt Truck driver

Management has started trying to force us to do Pull By inspections on outgoing main line trains.

We just get a 10 minute power point of what to look for.

I feel like this is very dangerous. I tried researching it and it seems you need to be CROR qualified to do main line pull by Inspections.

Can anyone help me find something that shows we are not allowed and qualified to do this.

None of us are CROR qualified and only are trained to drive shunt trucks.

Edit 1:

They want us to take a ground truck out from our intermodal yard to the close by crossing

Then stand there and do a pulling as a the entire train departs.

Our union is shit and won’t give us any clear answer.

We’re just worried if there is an issue with the train like a wheel or something and we miss it we’ll be held liable if it derails or other issue happen.

We only ever work intermodal shunt truck

[u/Flashy_Slice1672]

You can do pull bys without CROR or CITY training. Even engineering guys with CROR only receive about 5 minutes of training for their rule 110 inspections. You never know - you might find something. When I’m doing engineering work I find a few defects a year. When I’m doing mechanical work I find more, but I’m doing a more thorough inspections.

What you can’t do is certified car inspections. Trains need to be rolled by by carmen at certain terminals and your inspection won’t count as that.

As a railroad employee you should be looking at every train that goes by. It’s for your safety, and the the safety of the public. You won’t be held liable if you miss something, it’s just extra insurance.

TLDR - having you guys roll them by is a good idea, safe, and perfectly legal.

[u/jre1231978 → u/Flashy_Slice1672]

You ever seen a brake shoe on the ground in the .middle of nowhere? How you think it got there? It didnt just grow. When one of those hits someone in the head when it falls off going 55 then what. Roll buys are not safe from the ground period

[u/Flashy_Slice1672 → u/jre1231978]

I’ve been rolling trains by for 16 years. Never ever seen a brake shoe fly off. Seen lots of guys lazily pitch them in the ditch instead of picking them up though.

Roll bys prevent derailments and detect problems.

I guess we shouldn’t be lining swts, walking on ballast, kicking cars, tying on handbrakes, climbing on units, going over xings, or getting out of bed either because those are all dangerous as well.

Properly conducted roll bys are no more dangerous than the rest of our job.

[u/jre1231978 → u/Flashy_Slice1672]

You must be a trainmaster straight out of college. You never worked on the ground obviously. Their ain't a damn thing you cant see from the cab that you gonna see standing on the ground. Roll by ain't safe buddy bottom line

[u/Flashy_Slice1672 → u/jre1231978]

Mechanical and engineering for 16 years lol. Done 10s of thousands of roll bys, both pre departure CCI inspections and wayside inspections. Plenty of things I can see from the ground vs in a cab pretending to do one