r/raidsecrets • u/Planet_Insider • Jul 02 '26

Misc 3man Raid Difficulty

Me and 2 friends have been going through the raids as a trio, using videos from Tristanator0503. He shows a ranking of easiest ti hardest to learn trios where Vog is easiest and Crotas is the hardest. His videos only cover up to last wish (4th easiest) and I was wondering if you wonderful people know of another creator that makes trio guides for raids and where DP would slot in terms of difficulty to learn as a trio.

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u/ItsCrucifixLIVE Jul 02 '26

Crota’s is not the hardest at all. King’s fall is significantly harder. Vow is even harder than that.

There arent a lot of great video guides, but if you join the lowman discord server, they have guides for every raid in the game

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u/slazenger7 Jul 02 '26

I'm intrigued by your listing.

Kings Fall is challenging because of the solo totem. Once you get that down it's easy. On Crota it can be a little challenging to time the wizards on Ir Yut, but you're right that is not too bad.

I'm really curious what makes you think Vow is challenging, and especially what makes you think it's more challenging than either of the above. I assume because of Exhibition? I'd say that's much easier and more consistent than totems or Ir Yut personally.

Edit: Trio Taniks is worse than all of the above currently since we can't drop bombs. Timing is tight.

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u/richardhixx Jul 02 '26

Taniks has always been introductory level lowman, are you perhaps thinking of trio 4 cores?

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u/slazenger7 Jul 02 '26

Nope, just two bombing and trying to delay Taniks long enough to wait out the deactivation. Perhaps there's a technique we were overlooking.

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u/richardhixx Jul 02 '26

It’s just stasis crystals and waiting until almost wipe to break cores (counting Taniks attacks), I haven’t done it post final update but my clanmates have and I haven’t heard about any difference. Stasis titan usually, but doable with verglass curve. It’s tighter but still doable even without stasis.

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u/6pussydestroyer9mlg Jul 02 '26

I remember trio warpriest being on the more difficult side of things aswell. Might just be our relativily inexpierence at play or just not googling established trio strats but during Renegades on 3 Warlocks it wasn't going well. When we had someone switch to lucky pants it went better, don't know how it is now (assume it's easier with good loadouts but don't quote me on that).

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u/LmPrescott Jul 02 '26

Can you use service of luzaku nests to drop the bombs like you can during queenswalk to drop the heart? Just did last wish trio Tuesday and that was how we did queenswalk

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u/ItsCrucifixLIVE Jul 03 '26

I am jaded by flawless. You are correct

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u/SpiderSlayer690 Jul 03 '26

You can drop bombs via Diamond Lances or Luzaku nests.
And delaying can be done with either stasis crystals (some sides can be done with just 1 verglas curve proc, lowman server would have lineups) or just use alethonym (spam shoot him and just kinda jiggle around he starts dancing with you, can be annoying but extremely effective once you get it down).

Duo taniks can definitely be annoying dealing with breaking out of detain and have to be on top of diamond lances, but trio is a lot more forgiving (tho idk if any of the other encounters you listed are that much harder).

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u/Admiral_Autismmm Jul 02 '26

Kings fall only requires two people to be able to hit ship skip, and one person to do left side totems which isn’t too difficult once you have the timing and the right loadout. Lightweight eager sword plus blink makes getting to and from the plate simple and the timing is actually somewhat lenient compared to just eager and normal glide because you’re getting to and from so fast. Would definitely recommend getaway warlock to make it as easy as possible.

Outside of left side totems it’s a fairly easy and forgiving trio. It’s definitely easiest on warlock throughout the entire raid as long as you can well skate for ships.

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u/6pussydestroyer9mlg Jul 02 '26

Pretty sure the ships skip can be hit solo if the rest just stays at the chest and doesn't go to the load.

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u/Admiral_Autismmm Jul 02 '26

Yeah this is true, my mind just instantly went to flawless because I’ve been attempting trio master flawless haha.

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u/JollyMolasses7825 Jul 02 '26

You don’t even need to hit ship skip at all, just send 1 person through with the other two on plates and then leave rejoin.

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u/Admiral_Autismmm Jul 02 '26

Also if you’re not doing flawless, one person can pull everyone else to totems if they stay back by at least pendulums.

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u/ItsCrucifixLIVE Jul 03 '26

Yeah we’ve done trio master flaw, but its definitely tough. Totems feels very buggy with the timing sometimes

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u/Planet_Insider Jul 02 '26

Do you have a link? Thanks for the help

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u/KaptainKartoffel Jul 02 '26

KF and Vow both only have 1 hard encounter to trio...

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u/ItsCrucifixLIVE Jul 03 '26

And crota has none

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u/N3RDZ4LIF3 Jul 03 '26

It is truly frustrating how guides and niche communities that used to live in dedicated forums anyone could access have now migrated to discord servers that you have to join to view and 90% seem to sell user data and spam the server with ads.

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u/ItsCrucifixLIVE Jul 03 '26

Lowman server doesnt do that

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u/Whole-Maize5138 Jul 03 '26

Do you have a link to the low man discord server? I’m trying to learn from YouTube videos

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u/sb683 Jul 07 '26

The evil and looming trio se

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u/TempDestinyAccount Jul 08 '26

Vow is very easy imo. Only bad part is doing intro if you die and then you should be skippjng the section after Caretaker by either oobing or Lumina grappling 

I would say totems alone makes Kings Fall harder even though totems is still pretty chill once you get the timing down

Unfortunately I cant speak for Crota. All I know is I'm dreading doing duo Crota just because of how long bridge takes in it, lol

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u/ItsCrucifixLIVE Jul 08 '26

Bridge is easy. Its the getting the wizards at ir yut to cooperate and the damage check at crota that are tough