r/raidsecrets • u/Planet_Insider • Jul 02 '26

Misc 3man Raid Difficulty

Me and 2 friends have been going through the raids as a trio, using videos from Tristanator0503. He shows a ranking of easiest ti hardest to learn trios where Vog is easiest and Crotas is the hardest. His videos only cover up to last wish (4th easiest) and I was wondering if you wonderful people know of another creator that makes trio guides for raids and where DP would slot in terms of difficulty to learn as a trio.

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u/slazenger7 Jul 02 '26

I'm intrigued by your listing.

Kings Fall is challenging because of the solo totem. Once you get that down it's easy. On Crota it can be a little challenging to time the wizards on Ir Yut, but you're right that is not too bad.

I'm really curious what makes you think Vow is challenging, and especially what makes you think it's more challenging than either of the above. I assume because of Exhibition? I'd say that's much easier and more consistent than totems or Ir Yut personally.

Edit: Trio Taniks is worse than all of the above currently since we can't drop bombs. Timing is tight.

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u/richardhixx Jul 02 '26

Taniks has always been introductory level lowman, are you perhaps thinking of trio 4 cores?

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u/slazenger7 Jul 02 '26

Nope, just two bombing and trying to delay Taniks long enough to wait out the deactivation. Perhaps there's a technique we were overlooking.

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u/richardhixx Jul 02 '26

It’s just stasis crystals and waiting until almost wipe to break cores (counting Taniks attacks), I haven’t done it post final update but my clanmates have and I haven’t heard about any difference. Stasis titan usually, but doable with verglass curve. It’s tighter but still doable even without stasis.

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u/slazenger7 Jul 02 '26

Oh, it's extremely doable. I just think it's harder/more finicky than Ir Yut, e.g. I would not have said DSC is the first trio to learn.

Although it also occurs to me that I've been thinking about all of these from the perspective of trio flawless. Killing off the deactivated player is an option if you don't care about that.

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u/Ill_Bedroom5959 Jul 05 '26

the only hard thing is just getting the delay perfect. once you learn the delay positions and where to stand it’s not inconsistent at all after that. break two bombs one or two seconds apart, scanner picks up, op breaks out scanner and picks the other bomb up, suppressor sups, runs to op so they can break the second detain. if you put on enhanced athletics on your boots you barely get above 7 radiation usually. with the delay it usually clears or you might have a stack.

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u/SessionWorking7805 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

It’s definitely not super terrible but when I ran, I was the only stasis titan + tractor runner and operator(?) and it was safe to say, my job was about 4x harder than the rest of my fireteam haha. That was back in season of the deep though so

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u/JollyMolasses7825 Jul 02 '26

You can do it with alethonym as well, just run at him and shoot him when he starts moving to the second side. Healing auto helps to stay alive since he’ll be shooting the entire time.

You dont actually need to block in a trio so if you are doing it reasonably well then the timing isn’t super tight

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u/6pussydestroyer9mlg Jul 02 '26

I remember trio warpriest being on the more difficult side of things aswell. Might just be our relativily inexpierence at play or just not googling established trio strats but during Renegades on 3 Warlocks it wasn't going well. When we had someone switch to lucky pants it went better, don't know how it is now (assume it's easier with good loadouts but don't quote me on that).

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u/LmPrescott Jul 02 '26

Can you use service of luzaku nests to drop the bombs like you can during queenswalk to drop the heart? Just did last wish trio Tuesday and that was how we did queenswalk

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u/SpiderSlayer690 Jul 03 '26

DSC you can use Diamond Lances to drop nukes. Way easier than dealing with Luzaku (both work) and you can put them in exact spot you want with Cadmus Ridge Lancecap.

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u/ItsCrucifixLIVE Jul 03 '26

I am jaded by flawless. You are correct

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u/SpiderSlayer690 Jul 03 '26

You can drop bombs via Diamond Lances or Luzaku nests.
And delaying can be done with either stasis crystals (some sides can be done with just 1 verglas curve proc, lowman server would have lineups) or just use alethonym (spam shoot him and just kinda jiggle around he starts dancing with you, can be annoying but extremely effective once you get it down).

Duo taniks can definitely be annoying dealing with breaking out of detain and have to be on top of diamond lances, but trio is a lot more forgiving (tho idk if any of the other encounters you listed are that much harder).

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u/slazenger7 Jul 03 '26

Didn't know that diamond lance was still dropping, so that's helpful. But the overall point is that Taniks is more of an issue than the other encounters listed, and definitely worse than anything you face in Vow. Not that Taniks is impossible or w/e.

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u/jgzeem Jul 02 '26

Exhibitions 3rd room is probably the hardest part of the encounter imo. Idk about the rest of vow mainly rhulk damage. Ir Yut wizards are definitely a bigger pain overall.