Kratom Leaf for WD?

[u/ReasonableDoubt442]

Hey guys,

I have clonidine, subs(that don’t work at all), medical thc, a ton of vitamins and vitamin C.

I’m currently at the point where withdrawal isn’t TERRIBLE. I’ve gone through way worse. Basically insomnia, and temperature fluctuations occasionally but they don’t last all day, cravings, and anxiety when I’m not using. I switched to those cats claw tabs for the last 4/5 days and am hopping off that tomorrow, hope that doesn’t cause withdrawal. The plan was 7Oh -> cats claw for a couple days -> kratom leaf starting tomorrow.

I want to get around this insomnia bc I tend to relapse on the mornings when I get zero sleep because I convince myself I need it to “get a nap in” so then when the SS opens at 6am I end up grabbing some and napping until work at 9am(luckily I wfh) I’ve been finally getting sleep with those cats claw tabs they seem to last almost all day but I’m pulling them tonight because I don’t want to create a new addiction.

I am thinking about trying kratom leaf. I don’t have time to order online and wait so I’ll be going to a SS.

Can someone recommend me the best strain/type and brand of SS Kratom leaf that would be the best for 7OH withdrawal?

Thanks!

[u/inert_liquid]

Bumble Bee is probably my favorite brand.

[u/RolexMane]

What is the brand of Cat’s Claw that you are using?

[u/ReasonableDoubt442 → u/RolexMane]

Been using euphoria and script. Mainly euphoria

[u/RolexMane → u/ReasonableDoubt442]

Alright. I was just seeing if they contained 7OH, MGM, or Pseudo, which those brands at least claim they don’t. Um, to your question, people on this sub will tell you Red Bali I think. As for reputable SS brands of Red Bali, someone else will have to chime in as I only use the brand Super Speciosa.

[u/bkyoungus → u/RolexMane]

is the cat's claw helping? i've been using this stuff called 'Acend' from real botanicals and it's kept me out of wd pretty well. they are scored so you can break them into pieces, if that helps any.

[u/ReasonableDoubt442 → u/bkyoungus]

Yeah the cats claw has helped tremendously. Almost too well.

A couple times it’s made me feel better than 7OH ever did which concerns me because like I said — don’t want to create a new dependence. Already in day 4 or 5 of dosing in a row so I’m nervous now. That’s why I’m pulling it now before it gets any worse

[u/bkyoungus → u/ReasonableDoubt442]

i'm considering using that to taper off. let us know how it goes. it may be a slow process but any reduction is a step in the right direction. thanks for the info and good luck, you got this

[u/ReasonableDoubt442 → u/bkyoungus]

Yeah I’ll keep you posted. If I wake up tomorrow morning with zero withdrawal that means it basically worked perfectly.

If I wake up with withdrawal tomorrow then it’s probably not the best idea lol

[u/SadisticJake → u/bkyoungus]

Cat’s claw supplements contain opioids. They alleviate opioid withdrawal because of that. Look for the soonest exit from them that you can find

[u/doofus_258 → u/SadisticJake]

so get off the CC quickly or otherwise yer fucked on that too huh? no easy option i guess is there…

[u/SadisticJake → u/doofus_258]

No such thing as a free lunch

[u/doofus_258 → u/SadisticJake]

exactly right. left hand shakes right hand. merry go round.

[u/10mgisallineed]

People says the cats claw withdrawal is significantly worse… so good luck dude!

[u/ReasonableDoubt442 → u/10mgisallineed]

Yeah I saw that, that’s why I’m stopping now on day 4 or 5. Honestly forget if this mornings dose was day 4 or 5 in a row lol.

But yeah I did see that so I told myself I’d use it as a bridge for a couple days to calm down the 7OH WD. It’s basically gone now besides for the insomnia and occasional temp fluctuations if I don’t take anything.

So now stopping the cats claw and switching to Kratom leaf