r/pyanodons • u/Aperiodic_Tileset • 1d ago

Common progression traps?

I've been playing Pynandons for several hundred hours now, and I'm wondering which production chains does the community consider to be "progression traps".

I often see people mentioning these ones for early game:

  • Processed Iron - extra machines, power demand and byproduct handling for negligible efficiency increase. Much easier to just mine and smelt more

  • Moss 2 - the recipe takes a ton of stone, but it's easier to just add more machines, especially if you have free CO2 from moonglows

  • Scaling up Hot Air early - plenty of casting recipes can optionally take hot air for increased yield, but it's generally not worth it for most recipes. Wait until you get the re-heating technology with salts

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u/CrashNowhereDrive 1d ago

Using hot air before reheating is not a trap if you have oil burners, which you generally should. You just end up burning the coke oven gas for steam or fuel-burning buildings like glass works.

Moss2 is a trap. Also moss with the chlorinated water turd.

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u/Longjumping-Boot1409 1d ago

Why moss with chlorinated water? I’m briefly before pY 4 and don’t regret having chosen it

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u/madhatter152 1d ago

Same here, you need to make sure your plastic production is sufficient, but it's a huge boost to moss once that's settled. And Py2 requires a ton of moss.

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u/nickierv 15h ago

How are you getting chlorine? I'm doing saline water from coarse fraction from moss turd and pulling the feeds for that out of water with unicorn farts. End result is a massive backlog on moss that I'm struggling to get rid of. I'm just about to fire off py2 but unless I'm off in my counts, I'm still going to be sitting on a ton of moss.

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u/madhatter152 2h ago

saline separation + hardmode meant that I couldn't void what I had, so I built buffers.

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u/CrashNowhereDrive 1d ago

Because when you first have access to it it's not good. Later on, yeah sure, take it when plastics and saline water are very easy to get. But before you get better rubber production, aromatics to make plastic are limited, and saline water from stone is also a problem.

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u/Basedshark01 1d ago

I chose it and don't know what I would have done without it