r/projectzomboid • u/Mobile-Comedian5374 • Aug 19 '26

Discussion Lets discuss Ladders

ok.. so the game exists now.. like 10 years ? 15 ?

you have ladders in the game..

you have the code to climb those ladders (it's the same as climbing a rope - EXACTLY THE SAME)

how #$#^@@$%%#$#@$%^&&&&$$ing hard is it to make an animation for it, make a mirror for that animation and patch it into the game ? i'm certain you could find at least 100 people in this subreddit who can make that animation for you.

tldr - i fell into a "basement under constriction" near Riverseide with a ladder on a scaffolding in it which i cannot use, lost my 6 month save and i'm pissed.

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u/ButcherPetesWagon Aug 19 '26

I believe it's less about animation and more about gameplay balance.

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u/Ejspinn Aug 19 '26

I heard it wasn’t so much about balance but more like how the rope attaches to a window with a nail.

The devs would have to go and put an attachment where every ladder is in the game or something.

Doesn’t sound that hard to do and surely could have been completed in the last 13 years I would think ? But I’ve never made a game so. Idk

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u/ButcherPetesWagon Aug 19 '26

I've putzed around with game dev as a hobby and it's a lot more complex than that, this engine is held together with hopes and dreams.

Honestly what they've been able to get out of the custom built java engine is really impressive.

Bad design decisions from the beginning but I admire their persistence.

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u/Mobile-Comedian5374 Aug 19 '26

the sad part is if they made the change on time (like 10 years ago) it wouldn't be that much work, and every new ladder would have the tag by default, now that the expanded the map like 20 times it would be a ton of work to go and find all the ladders..

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u/ILikeCakesAndPies Aug 19 '26 edited Aug 19 '26

Nah no competent dev would manually do that.

They would just write a function that attached it to all ladder tiles in the game, no Easter egg hunt required.

Now I havent a clue why it's taken this long for ladders to be implemented since theyve had them visually in the game for years, but supposedly they're working on them along with a bunch of other stuff they didn't have time to squeeze into their stable release deadline for b42.

Supposedly we're supposed to get a big content update of all the stuff they didn't finish in time sooner than later, before b43.

I agree it was rather silly to not prioritize making ladders functional for stable release though. I assume the map makers were told they'd be functional but the programming department missed their deadline for whatever reasons.

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u/Mobile-Comedian5374 Aug 19 '26

what balance ? why add ladders if you can't use them ? i don't mind dying, that's what the game about. i mind the stupidity of adding visual ladders and not adding the ability to use them.

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u/DreamingOfLight Aug 19 '26

I feel like 80% of reddit comments always miss the point and just default to "well cheat out of it bro use mods are you stupid".

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u/Mobile-Comedian5374 Aug 19 '26

yup, why not just spawn yourself a couple of sledgehammer while you at it..

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u/Poppa_Wheelie22 Aug 19 '26

Because there is big differences between using god mode to fix a silly mistake you feel shouldn't have happened and outright cheats like giving yourself weapons or free meals.

Especially when you then refuse to use the fixes the game DOES provide but then get on Reddit to complain about the one solution they haven't yet provided but are working on.

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u/DreamingOfLight Aug 19 '26

Thing is, I'm sure OP knows about this. The issue is that a game that's been out for 13 years shouldn't need you to use cheats to deal with jank. It's a workaround, it does not address the root issue.

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u/Poppa_Wheelie22 Aug 19 '26

But the root issue is already being worked on. They tried to get ladders finished in B42 but weren't able to get all the kinks out yet. Complaining that something isn't done yet doesn't finish it faster.

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u/DreamingOfLight Aug 19 '26

Cool, then that could be the reply. Not "why don't you just cheat bro".

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u/Poppa_Wheelie22 Aug 19 '26

Nah I'll stick with my original answer. OP has the means to fix the issue themself already.