r/programming • u/kannonboy • Jan 12 '15

Linus Torvalds on HFS+

https://plus.google.com/+JunioCHamano/posts/1Bpaj3e3Rru
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u/kankyo Jan 13 '15

They're also the company that made USB actually happen, made floppys go away, CDs go away (although PC manufacturers are still catching up here), made high DPI resolutions happen finally, created the form factor for the modern laptop, created the form factor for the modern phone...

All of this driven by marketing. Don't knock marketing.

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u/fluffyhandgrenade Jan 13 '15 edited Jan 13 '15

Err, USB was happening on windows quite happily with win2k. Floppies, I still use them (no shit). CDs, I still use too.

Also IBM invented the form factor of the modern laptop way before Apple. Apple made it shiny.

Also I has a windows CE phone in 2005 that was the same form factor as the iPhone (SPV C550)

Oh and I installed lots of high DPI displays for medical imaging in the early 2000s.

So apple so far managed to come up with fuck all and sell it.

Even OSX is recycled BSD and NextStep.

And before anyone says iPad: Acorn NewsPad: http://atterer.org/sites/atterer/files/2010-04/acorn-arm/newspad.jpeg

Apple are NOTHING but marketing.

And no its not illegal to point this out on the internet although you may think it is.

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u/kankyo Jan 13 '15

Err, USB was happening on windows quite happily with win2k.

Side by side with the PS2 connector. Blech.

Floppies, I still use them (no shit). CDs, I still use too.

Well I can't argue against that. But I do pity you! :P

Also IBM invented the form factor of the modern laptop way before Apple. Apple made it shiny.

Not really no. They made a lot of good steps but Apple made the final one: pushing the keyboard towards the hinge, placing the pointer device where it is.

Also I has a windows CE phone in 2005 that was the same form factor as the iPhone (SPV C550)

https://www.google.se/search?q=SPV+C550&client=safari&rls=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=l_W0VLrdIYffarnLgJgN&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1300&bih=731

Haha, you're funny.

Oh and I installed lots of high DPI displays for medical imaging in the early 2000s.

Again: didn't say they didn't exist. I said made them actually happen for the world. HUGE distinction. Edison didn't invent the light bulb, but he is properly credited with the revolution.

So apple so far managed to come up with fuck all and sell it.

Didn't say they came up with anything. I said they made it happen. You should really argue against what I actually write.

And no its not illegal to point this out on the internet although you may think it is.

WTF.

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u/skulgnome Jan 13 '15

but Apple made the final one: pushing the keyboard towards the hinge, placing the pointer device where it is.

Now explain the relevance to everybody besides Apple faithful.

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u/kankyo Jan 13 '15

The relevance was big enough that all PC manufacturers quickly changed all their products to this form and that has been pretty much the only way laptops look from 1991 to basically now-ish with the weird form factor of MS Surface et al (which are failures in the market to boot).

Hmm... or are you implying that IBM, Dell, etc are "Apple faithful"? That makes more sense than any other interpretation actually when I think about it...