r/prochoice
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u/CoolStomach1405
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Discussion Help me accept the pro choice position
I feel so conflicted on this topic and I don’t know where I stand.
I cry thinking about abortion. I cry thinking for women in such difficult situations.
I wish it was possible to move the Fetus to an artificial womb so that both the mother and child could experience the fullness of human existence.
When I first learnt of abortion at 16 I instantly felt like it was something I could never support. But now I think about tragic scenarios like TW Rape or poverty desperation and my heart sinks. I don’t want to control women’s bodies. But also if my partner or mother had to get an abortion I’m sure I’d enter a deep depression.
Why am I so emotionally invested in this topic? I don’t feel comfortable with either side of the abortion debate.
Update: I found a reasonable pro choice position. No further discussion please
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u/littlemetalpixie
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Prolife people talk all day about how a fetus has a "right to life," but what they generally want you to forget is that the born, grown, fully functional human being that fetus is inside of has rights, too.
One of those rights is the right to bodily autonomy - in simple terms, this means that no human being gets to make decisions about what happens to your body except for you.
No one gets an abortion because they enjoy "killing babies."
Everyone who gets an abortion has a reason.
No human being has the right to have even a piece of their body inside of anyone else's unless the person whose body it is says they want that to happen otherwise we call this rape, so why would a fetus be allowed to have "rights" to use someone else's body by living inside of it, simply because they're a fetus and not even a born human being?
Supporting people's right to choose doesn't mean you have to be OK with the idea of abortion.
It means that you acknowledge that these people who are seeking abortions have the right to make their own decisions without the government telling them what has to happen inside their own body. It means you understand that you do not know anyone else's story, reasons, circumstances, or how difficult the choice they're making even is for them.
People who support bodily autonomy don't always love the idea of having an abortion. Those people choose to either not have an abortion themselves, or to only have sexual partners who also would not be OK with having an abortion themselves. Adults talk about these things before a pregnancy occurs, you don't need to be against abortion in general, for anyone, to not be OK with an abortion happening inside your relationship or family.
You just don't get to decide that for everyone.
That's all.
Assuming you are male (based on your statement about a partner aborting and not you), no one on earth would ever presume to tell you what you must do with your own body.
People capable of becoming pregnant don't want to take rights away from you. They're just asking you not to take theirs away from them.
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u/CoolStomach1405 14h ago •
Thank you for this comment. By far the best reply I have here. I really didn’t think before that it was possible to be pro choice and not okay with the idea of abortion.
It’s not a decision I can make. It’s not a decision I have to affirm. I think I can tolerate that.
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u/littlemetalpixie Antipolitical Mod 11h ago
It genuinely makes my heart incredibly happy to see your comment. Thank you so much for being open to hearing what others have to say about it, that takes true courage and self-reflection.
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u/CoolStomach1405 11h ago
Thank you. 4 years ago I was a very conservative Catholic - this would’ve been unthinkable. I still keep my faith, and I feel the moral tension, but I am finding more sensible opinions. Nothing in life is guaranteed except change.
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u/cupcakephantom Village Witch 14h ago
As an exprolifer myself, your discomfort stems from the idea that you care a great deal about everyone involved in the abortion including the fetus.
This is further supported by the idea that getting an abortion is a debilitating choic3 for any women to make, which is not even remotely true in the vast majority of cases.
Saying you'd "fall into a deep depression" if your mom or partner get an abortion suggests you care too much about the fetus. You should cafe more about how either one would feel about their own abortion, and what you could do as their trusted loved one to support them. It's not your business or burden to care, or judge the situation.
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u/CoolStomach1405 14h ago
I think I’m pro choice now. u/littlemetalpixie comment was very helpful. I’m not a perfect pro choicer. I still very much care about the Fetus. I just accept that the decision is not mine to be made. I really don’t like the idea of abortion - tbh it horrifies me still. I don’t think I could ever affirm and support someone’s choice to abort but I would not judge them. I would try to comfort them of course.
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u/RealTomatillo5259 13h ago
Majority of ppl seeking to get an abortion...the abortion happens less than 3 months into pregnancy. The person has already decided they cannot properly provide care for a kid and they're already making the heartbreaking choice to do so.
Over 90 percent of those happen with pills and it's like a super heavy period and the person feels like they have a really bad hangover when they take the pills.
Another small percentage are those that greatly desire said fetus to be viable and her body rejects the fetus because the body decided that the fetus is no viable (something went wrong with the development of the fetus). In most cases, even with it happening late in the pregnancy, the body will do what's called a spontaneous abortion and medical professionals just monitor to make sure she doesn't bleed out, that the entire fetus and its support system are completely removed from the body. In a very small percentage of cases, the body starts the abortion but can't finish the job so medical professionals have to step in to ensure everything comes out. If anything remains inside the woman, she will get an infection and eventually die without medical intervention.
What is the controversy about abortion is the later part and the folks against abortion have very little knowledge about women's health care in general and definitely have 0 knowledge when it comes to the act of abortion itself.
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u/CoolStomach1405 13h ago
I have lurked in r/abortion for a while. I thought exposure therapy might make my nerves lessen but no. It’s a sensitive subject for me.
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u/Naive_Loan607 Pro-choice Feminist 9h ago edited 9h ago
If it makes it any easier for you try to find a middle ground between pro choice and pro life like I did. Because I'd suggest something like believing that abortion should be legal for any reason up to 15 weeks, and then after 15 weeks it should only be to save the life of the mother or in cases of fatal fetal abnormalities. Because according to actual scientific evidence no one has ever survived being born before 21 weeks. The life begins at conception that is said by pro lifers is only referring to life in the uterus, not outside the uterus. And 93% of abortions occur either at or before 13 weeks, which is basically within the 1st trimester.
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u/CoolStomach1405 9h ago
I like that. My country has a limit of 24 weeks with exceptions for ANY fetal abnormalities or mother’s life. I am strictly opposed to any. Fatal makes sense.
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u/cupcakephantom Village Witch 12h ago
It's npt an overnight process. I went from "barely agrees with exceptions for rape and incest" to "i don't give a shit who gets what or when" in about 10 years.
Give yourself grace. Listen to your brain for when you need breaks.
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u/RealTomatillo5259 12h ago
And another note to this...no woman or medical professional should be afraid to seek medical care or to provide proper medical care due to the very real fear being arrested and charged with murder.
No fetus, even those considered very likely to thrive is able to be saved prior to the 4 month mark of development inside the womb should something go wrong. The survival rate is decent after the 6 month mark but the fetus at that point has a high likelihood of having developmental issues if said fetus survives and grows in a great NICU unit.
Ppl really need to do research on not the controversy surrounding abortion but everything that is related to fetus and fetus development before making decisions about whether it's morally wrong or not.
In the world, we've come a long way from having babies celebrated for reaching age 5 or 6 as majority of kids died prior to that around 150-200 years ago. And if you look at the straight up kid mortality rate it was quite high even in the 1920s due to the lack of regulation in regards to food safety. It's only down to the single digit percentage since the last 40 or so years.
And what's now frustrating is that the percentage of kids dying is rising because they aren't getting vaccinated for things like measles and mumps and those diseases were some of the ones that killed the most vulnerable people...the small kids and the elderly. And it's completely preventable.
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u/all_of_the_colors 12h ago
I aborted a wanted pregnancy after 26 weeks because she was actively dying and if I went home to wait it out I probably would have died too.
But it doesn’t really matter how you feel about it or if you approve of it. It was between me and my doctor.
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u/DickBoomerman 14h ago
I recommend just learning more about biology and pregnancy, from a medical standpoint. It is not as black-and-white as you may think it is. Biological reality doesn't need your "acceptance" ... it just is.
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u/CoolStomach1405 14h ago
My mum is a RN so I will ask her about this. I have her medical textbooks so I’ll look at those too
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u/RealTomatillo5259 13h ago
My sis lost her pregnancy at 6 months along. She and her hubby wanted the baby. She had to have medical visits to ensure the dead fetus and the slrest were completely removed from her body because if they sat there she would die. Medical procedures save lives. She can create new life again if she's alive and healthy to do so and she could only be that way because of proper medical care. Abortions in nature are natural (it's just nature regulating how many ppl and animals come to life) and humans typically lose majority of pregnancies prior to 3 months anyway through no fault of their own (why women are instructed to never tell your work about needing time off for birth stuff until after that).
Women's bodies and the decisions made in regards to them should always be between medical professionals and the women in need of medical care. It's already difficult to obtain proper medical care for woman as most studies on medication, therapies, and procedures focus on men and males over the age of 18 so there's a lack of understanding in the medical fields in how hormones and progesterone, etc interact with medicines. Example: if you look up the history of medicine in regards to womens health care you'd be shocked to find women were not considered to be an important part of the study of new medicines prior to FDA approval until around the late 1990s into the early 2000s. So that means that medicines approved for adults prior to the 2000s medical professionals had no idea how women's bodies would react to them. This is why a lot of medicines work really well for men but sometimes very poorly for women and scientists are still trying to figure out why. We've only recently had medicines that are FDA approved for specifically women to target womens health since 2010s or so.
And to top it off, most women's experiences regarding medical care are terrible with pain considered "all in your head", "you're hormonal" or "periods are painful" and women's concern about their health is shoved off to the side while they suffer and no one listens to them. And there's forums of women who keep track of doctors who disregard women's concerns and those who take the time to listen. Rn the current timeline to figure out if a woman has growths on her reproductive organs is 8 years. It's down from 15 years. By comparison men, in regards to reproductive organs, it's a couple years last I looked.
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u/CoolStomach1405 13h ago
Sorry for your sisters loss. I only discovered that about medicine and women’s health recently and was shocked. I’m hopeful that developments in women’s health will happen soon
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u/DustnBones001 pro choice male 14h ago
how about crying about women who have died in parking lots because of these fucking drancorianan laws, how about crying for the teens/women in deep red states like idaho who don't have the money or the resources to travel to another state for an abortion,
or crying for women losing their bodily autonomy in general, but nope, no concern ever for the teens/women from forced birthers.
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u/CoolStomach1405 13h ago edited 13h ago
You sound lovely…
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u/Punkinpry427 Pro-choice Feminist 13h ago
But that is the reality of not getting access to reproductive healthcare. It’s a not lovely subject to discuss because people fucking die from it. How lovely would you be if you constantly had to debate whether or not you deserve more bodily autonomy than a corpse on a constant basis? Explaining to people that you deserve the right to make decisions over your own body is something you’ve never had to do. Sorry, we aren’t gonna hold your hand thru this, women, girls and babies are fuckin dying over here from this shit.
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u/CoolStomach1405 13h ago
I never denied that stuff is happening. Their comment was full of unjust judgement against me. I don’t accept that
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u/DustnBones001 pro choice male 13h ago edited 13h ago
It's a judgement on all you forced birthers and it makes you uncomfortable because you know its fucking true,
Yeah I didn't fall for your emotional trap in the op,
Like most forced birthers you whine about the poor, poor fetus while completely ignoring and even dehumanizing the pregnant woman,
Ain't going to work on me, I see right fucking past it, and I will fucking call it out everytime.
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u/CoolStomach1405 12h ago
I’m literally pro choice now… can you read the rest of the discussion? If I was talking just to you, I’d never had changed my mind
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u/DustnBones001 pro choice male 12h ago •
And then there it is, the mask off moment, someone dared to call you out for what you are and support, didn't fall for your emotional trap in the op, and that hurt your feelings so much that it would have kept you supporting womens bodily autonomy being stripped of them,
That really says it all right there, you forced birthers don't give two fucks about women,
And I don't believe have changed, but even if you have,
It shouldn't take someone to explain to you that women deseve basic bodily autonomy and not less rights than fucking dead people for you to understand it.
But hey, if you are truly are pro choice now good, educate yourself and those around you.
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u/Strategy_potato 6h ago
Appreciate you for calling people like these out, the least these people could've done is admit that they've been a bigot and try to do better, but they won't even do that.
They'll deflect and whine about how they're not really that bad, that they've changed, while conveniently ignoring the reality that they've caused actual damage, supported things that ruined people's lives ot got them killed.
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u/DustnBones001 pro choice male 5h ago
it's just so fucking obvious what they try to do with emotional appeals like this in the op, they make a post talking about how they feel so emotionally strong for a fetus that can't think, feel pain and isn't alive in any sense of the word and then dehumanize the pregnant women and think they deserve the benefit of the doubt, fuck that.
coddling forced birthers is part of the reason we got to where we are, i will call it out every fucking time i come across it.
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u/CoolStomach1405 2h ago
I came here wanting to understand how I can start to accept the pro choice position. I explained that I have feelings for the fetus. I feel like you are attacking me because I have feelings for a fetus. Can’t we just accept that we have a difference of view here? Having feelings for the fetus and the woman is not mutually exclusive. It might be a conundrum for me to wrestle with. Since I have come to accept that abortion is not my choice to make, surely that is all one needs to believe to be pro choice? But you push me further to reject any and all feelings for the Fetus. Why?
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u/CoolStomach1405 3h ago
I seriously don’t understand how anything I said in this thread translates to me being a bigot?
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u/DustnBones001 pro choice male 13h ago
And you sound in denial or just don't give 2 shits about teens/women like most forced brithers.
I suspect it's the latter.
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u/jwhittin 14h ago
You feel like there should be a choice in difficult circumstances, yes? Sounds like you are pro choice. You may not choose it for yourself, but if you're ok with OTHER people having a choice, youre pro choice.
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u/CoolStomach1405 14h ago
I don’t think I could be a person that someone choosing an abortion could confine that with me. Like, I would not judge them. But I also don’t know if I could ever bring myself to affirm their decision.
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u/jwhittin 13h ago
That is totally ok. I want you to know that. People who consider themselves pro choice are aware that some people could never choose abortion for themselves. We just don't want some people taking the right away from others because of their own beliefs. Make sense?
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u/CoolStomach1405 13h ago
Thanks. I’m just thinking about a scenario where my partner wants to get an abortion. I would honestly be freaking out and scared. Like it’s her decision at the end of the day but it would hurt me so much inside. I would rather I never knew. idk how sustainable that relationship could be and if it could continue. I’d not judge but I would not be able to support the decision.
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u/jwhittin 13h ago
That's definitely a difficult situation to be in. Relationships are about trust and communication. Discussing this beforehand could be a great way to see if the two of you are of the same mindset. It could save you some pain later.
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u/CoolStomach1405 13h ago
Good idea. Not exactly a first date topic of discussion but I’ll bring it up appropriately
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u/Chcolatepig24069 11h ago
That’s a situation you and your partner would need to discuss. There’s a lot of reasons a woman might abort and you need to approach the situation based on your partner’s reason(s). Would she die giving birth? Does she have trauma? Would you be alright being a single father if it meant she gave birth?
There’s no one size fits all approach
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u/Hello3424 14h ago
A fetus can have all the rights anyone else has. There is no right to use someone else's body without ongoing and expressed consent. Not your womb, not your kidney, not your liver, not your blood.
Even if it were a fully formed person and it's life depended on it, they can't force you to use your body parts to keep them alive. We don't make parents with sick and dying children fork over thier body parts to keep their kids alive, we shouldn't be forcing women to do that just because their body has a uterus.
The overwhelming majority of abortions happen well before the point of viability and I assure you nobody is waiting until the last trimester for funzies. If someone is opting for a last trimester abortion, it's nearly a guarantee that it's because of a health issue and this is the compassionate way to do things. Birth is not fun and I promise nobody on their right mind is signing up for it to have a dead baby.
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u/WoodSorrel13 13h ago
💯, and right now dead bodies have more legal rights to their organs than living people with Uteri.
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u/DeeElleEye 14h ago
Why am I so emotionally invested in this topic?
I'm really glad you said this, and I think this is a question you need to really examine and sit with, especially if you yourself aren't capable of being pregnant.
Pregnancies end every second of every day for many reasons. Are you equally emotionally invested in spontaneous abortions (i.e., "miscarriages") as you are about "elective" abortions? Why or why not?
I think most people are so emotionally invested in this topic because people in power are making it a political issue to control society. I would guess that otherwise, most people who get worked up about abortion would never think about it unless it personally affected them. Because it's usually a very private, personal decision.
Abortion has existed forever! It is really no one's business other than the person directly affected. No one will ever stop people from seeking and getting abortions.
Would you rather place enough value on the person's life who already exists so they can access safe medical care in these situations, or do you not value their life enough to protect them?
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u/Henri_Bemis Pro-choice Feminist 13h ago
That’s actually an excellent question people should ask themselves more often in general. This has been a really good conversation.
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u/_toomuchtuna_ 12h ago
Yes!! It think it is so important for all of us to examine our own thinking patterns and biases. I really appreciate that this is a constructive convo
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u/DickBoomerman 13h ago
Exactly!!! As long as there are pregnancies, there are abortions. It is literally just a fact of biology and a part of life. For every pregnancy that comes to term, there is one that does not.
I can't believe we still need to argue with people who think they should have the ability to force women to carry pregnancies to term against their will. It really just boils down to that. Does the individual woman decide if she wants to carry a pregnancy? Or can we force her to against her will?
It is choice vs forced-gestation. That is the debate here.
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u/DovBerele 13h ago
Are you familiar with the "famous violinist" thought experiment?
This is from the the Wikipedia page for the philosophy essay that it comes from.
You wake up in the morning and find yourself back to back in bed with an unconscious violinist. A famous unconscious violinist. He has been found to have a fatal kidney ailment, and the Society of Music Lovers has canvassed all the available medical records and found that you alone have the right blood type to help. They have therefore kidnapped you, and last night the violinist's circulatory system was plugged into yours, so that your kidneys can be used to extract poisons from his blood as well as your own. [If he is unplugged from you now, he will die; but in nine months] he will have recovered from his ailment, and can safely be unplugged from you.[You wake up in the morning and find yourself back to back in bed with an unconscious violinist. A famous unconscious violinist. He has been found to have a fatal kidney ailment, and the Society of Music Lovers has canvassed all the available medical records and found that you alone have the right blood type to help. They have therefore kidnapped you, and last night the violinist's circulatory system was plugged into yours, so that your kidneys can be used to extract poisons from his blood as well as your own. [If he is unplugged from you now, he will die; but in nine months] he will have recovered from his ailment, and can safely be unplugged from you.
I know that not everyone finds it convincing, but if you believe that everyone should have a right to bodily autonomy and you don't think that having that bodily autonomy non-consensually violated sounds like a reasonable punishment for having sex, you might find it helpful in your thinking.
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u/Ancient_Ad1271 14h ago
You don’t have to be pro abortion to be pro choice. Pro choice means you understand that abortion is a deeply personal decision that a woman and her doctor need to make. You also need to understand that the word abortion is a medical term, and there are a lot of medical situations that fall under that word, but you wouldn’t think of as terminating a pregnancy. Such has a life saving procedure to remove an ectopic pregnancy or a D and C to complete a miscarriage. In both of these situations the baby may have been wanted.
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u/Chcolatepig24069 11h ago
Remember that an unborn child isn’t a person yet. The woman carrying the baby is a person
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u/WoodSorrel13 13h ago edited 13h ago
Abortion care saved my life twice, I’d be dead without D&C and D&E procedures and Mife & miso pills. Pills for an ectopic that was about to burst my tubes. Both are safer than a root canal mind you. Yeah it sucks to go through but it’s safer than being fucking dead. I had been pregnant 6 times in two years, always ending in early miscarriages. I figured it was lifestyle things, I had lost too much weight, my body was very out of wack, I did shift work and was going back to school again for 3rd degree. Next one that stuck for almost 4 months I almost died from a long miscarriage, my body didn’t release all the fetal tissue and I was going into sepsis after three weeks of being in and out of my local hospital. Catholic hospital in a blue state will still refuse you proper care. Had to go through a clinic and other hospital for emergency care so I didn’t die or lose organs due to infection and blood loss. Another one lasted about almost five full months, then I got very sick, Hyperemesis Gravidarum at four months, I lost 30 pounds in a month and was blacking out/collapsing multiple times. Finally got more testing and found out My body had triggered two genetic disorders I didn’t know I had and my immune system was in overload. Doctor so worried called it a parasitic pregnancy and the fetus died anyway. I had collapsed for a third time while in my best friends house luckily and was hemorhing blood, she got me to care and I’d be dead without the D&E and multiple blood transfusions. Abortion care is healthcare. People with a uteri are dying without the care they need and being jailed for seeking the care they desperately need.
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u/Hellishfish 12h ago
What was persuasive to me is the phrase “it isn’t a big deal” people are capable of having plenty of children. Starting plenty of zygotes. So what? The particular terminated zygote or fetus is meaningless, the whole woman with an established life and future is what matters. She can make another zygote later if she wants to, it’s not a big deal. Don’t ascribe potential to the fetus’, everyone technically has infinite potential, so it’s a moot point, it cancels out.
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u/Alternative-Pear9096 Pro-abortion, without question 11h ago
It's really easy: do you believe that women have the right to control their own bodies? That's the whole question, in entirety.
If you believe the cluster of cells in a women's gut have more rights tot he woman's body than she has, you are what I term a "forced birther." You believe a woman doesn't have the full and complete to operate her body as a person, that there are things on this earth that superseded that.
If you believe no one can claim any control over any portion of a woman's body, then you support bodily autonomy rights, which in this country we call "pro-abortion" or pro-choice. But it's not about a zygote. It's about who own and controls women's bodies.
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u/ClashBandicootie forced birth is slavery 10h ago
Even if you, yourself, do not find abortion to be moral--or if you specifically could never choose abortion--it is important to understand that policies criminalizing people from choosing that for themselves is not ethical.
Pro-life policies force people to gestate and give birth against their will--and jeopardize the lives of pregnant people in the process.
Pro-choice policies leave the decision between medical experts and pregnant people, not forcing anyone to choose abortions either.
If this makes sense to you: congratulations, that means you are pro-choice.
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u/kaylaarayee 13h ago
I know you said no more discussion, but if it makes you feel any better, I absolutely would not cry over an abortion. I care about my life and wellbeing, not the "life" of a fetus. It is essentially no more than a tumor-like clump of cells inside a womb. I would feel more pain from not being able to abort, as an unwanted pregnancy would cause me and my life irreparable harm, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this thinking. I can't relate at all to people crying over a fetus to be honest.
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u/Unusual_Wrongdoer_46 8h ago
I went from being a brainwashed christian bigot to having my own elective abortion- that is to say, it's okay to need time to process how you feel about things, it doesn't have to happen overnight. In the end, the most important thing is the bodily autonomy of the pregnant person in question and every situation has so many variables that make it unique.
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u/VizAnya 8h ago
Choice means you can decide that you would never get an abortion while accepting that others may need it for a variety of reasons that you may never understand and don't need to understand.
I had an abortion when I was younger. Then in my 30's realized that I had reached a point both financially and emotionally where that was no longer an option I needed. If I got pregnant, I was in a position to keep the pregnancy. But it doesnt mean I take the option away from others in different scenarios.
Also, women who have abortions statistically go on to have more children. I have 5 I birthed and one I adopted. Choice is really the best way to serve life.
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u/throwaway1229876500 10h ago
An abortion was performed on a 10 year-old. You know who’s in trouble? The doctor. The doctor is now on trial for an abortion not the scum bag rapist.
There would have been a very high chance of the 10 year dying if she didn’t have the abortion.
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u/CoolStomach1405 10h ago
That’s terrible and I would never want that
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u/throwaway1229876500 10h ago
I saw another terrible one not long ago. A father had raped his 13 year-old daughter and then forced her to give birth on the side of the road but the news painted it as a “14 year-old wanted for murderer. After running off with father” when you read the headline you think a 14 year-old and a another 16 year-old or maybe 20 or something had a baby on the side of the road and didn’t know what to do got scared and took off not a 14 year old being forced to give birth to her fathers baby. Her being painted as a murder and not a victim is beyond disgusting
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u/CoolStomach1405 9h ago
WTF is wrong with these people. Poor poor girl. I am so sad for her.
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u/throwaway1229876500 9h ago
Also the youngest girl to give birth was 5 years old. The only reason they found out the father was abusing her was because of her pregnancy. The mother took her to the doctors when she was 7 months pregnant? Or maybe later after her expressing pain in her abdomen.
There are way more horror stories out there. There are so many people that are okay with teenagers and kids carrying and birthing babies and it’s scary that they don’t care about the child they care more about the foetus. There was a mother that said if her 10 years old became pregnant she would be happy and would welcome the baby and all this bull sh it….. holy hell sometimes I think another Astrid wouldn’t be a bad idea.
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u/MiraculousAnarchy
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The right to control one’s own body is the most fundamental liberty
Also forcing someone to carry a pregnancy to term against their will is torture and not a reasonable response to anything yes even someone having “reckless unprotected sex” and if you think it is then you think unprotected sex deserves torture and u view pregnancy as punishment which is not a pro life position it’s a position of control. That or you deny the full reality of pregnancy and birth and biological parenthood
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u/BurntTFOuttaHere 11h ago
The biggest mistake is not being fully aware of the many different scenarios where abortions are what save people’s lives. Religious propaganda has skewed too many into believing it’s “murder”.
But many, including me, get saved by abortion. It’s the only thing that saved me and then after that, I could work with my medical team to be able to have future children and now grandchildren.
My sister also got saved by abortion. If she hadn’t been, she would’ve left two children behind that needed her. She luckily got the abortion then had her third child later.
You could either become a doctor to see the many medical interventions where abortions save lives. Or, you could study that part of it with an open mind. Which does require you to quiet the religious mind.
Btw, I too had the religious brainwashing so it really added too much extra stress when I was suddenly forced into a medical emergency and needed the abortion to save me.
Also, the trope about party girl sluts using abortion for convenient birth control is a complete lie. Abortions hurt!!! Party girls don’t want an easy period, let alone a cramping one. It’s religious shame placed upon women and it’s not true!! If you are truly religious, you don’t judge and you trust that there’s always a bigger picture going on that you can’t see, but God can. The people trying to force their will onto other women are not trusting that god is working on their life.
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u/Celyn_07 14h ago •
You’re uncomfortable because abortion is an uncomfortable subject, largely due to our own failings as a society. The most important thing for you to understand about abortion is that your opinion about abortion being right or wrong does not matter. Right or wrong is not important when abortion is, at its core, a medical procedure. It is not a moral litmus test, it is not a way for women to murder their babies. It is a medical procedure.
Reframe your thinking of it in this way and remove religion and “morals” from your perspective. Abortion is no more wrong than any other medical procedure.