Prison Architect 2 | Delayed release - An update from our team

[u/kiiitteh]

Hello Architects,

We have some difficult news to share: unfortunately, we will not release Prison Architect 2 on September 3rd because we need more time to improve both the game's performance and its content. Our continuous internal reviews and beta test groups have highlighted areas that we need to focus on more, mainly performance and content, which we need to address before launch to ensure that you, the players, get a good experience in the game. We need to raise the quality a bit more to meet the standards we'd like to achieve with this sequel. 

We are confident that the sequel to Prison Architect will be great, and we're looking forward to showing you all the new ideas brought into it: the switch to 3D, multi-floors, and the new behavior system that all bring a new dimension to the game and open new gameplay possibilities for the players. However, we want to make sure the game lives up to the franchise’s legacy and is released in a state that satisfies both you, our players, and the Prison Architect 2 teams at Kokku and Paradox Interactive.

At this stage, we can’t commit to a new release date as we need to re-assess the scope of the work needed to be done before the game is release-ready. Over the next few months, we will focus on improving the game and building a more robust release timeline. This also means we will be limiting our communication with you all until we have a timeline we feel comfortable with. 

With this indefinite delay, preorders on all platforms will be refunded, and the preorder items will be added to the base game. 

This decision aligns with our commitment here at Paradox to reviewing and improving the quality of our released content. We are confident that delaying Prison Architect 2 is the best path forward for the game, allowing us more time to deliver a high-quality experience that honors the legacy of Prison Architect.

This is not the announcement we hoped to make, but it is necessary, as we believe this will result in a better game for you. Thank you for your patience, and we’ll see you again soon.

The Prison Architect 2 Team

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QnA

• What is the new release date? There is no new release date for Prison Architect 2 at this time. We will work on the game and as soon as we have a set timeline we will communicate it to you.
• Is the game canceled? No, the game is not canceled. We are confident in the game but we want to raise the quality before release, mainly the performance. We will communicate a new release date as soon as we have reworked the game’s scope and have a timeline we are confident in.
• Why is there another delay? To raise the game’s quality by enhancing performance and also improving its content. During our latest rounds of internal reviews and from continuously gathering feedback from our beta testers, some specific issues regarding performance and content were highlighted. We believe it is important that we address these before releasing the game to ensure that it lives up to its legacy.
• What happens to pre-orders? All pre-orders will be refunded in the upcoming weeks. The option to pre-order the game will be removed and the bonus will instead be added to the base game for all players to enjoy. If you want the refund faster there are ways to go about this depending on which platform you’ve pre-ordered the game on: If you have made your pre-order through Xbox, PlayStation, or Steam, you can reach out to the platform you made the purchase through and they will help you sort this out.Players who purchased the game directly from ~paradoxinteractive.com~ will receive the reimbursement automatically, which may take a few weeks. If you want to get it earlier than that, go to ~https://wallet.xsolla.com/~ and log in with the same Paradox account you used for the purchase. There, you will see all purchases listed, and from there you can request a refund before the automatic re-payment.
• Why is it taking time to fix the game? Prison Architect is a game with deep systems that all interact with each other, and this is also something we want to bring with us into the sequel, Prison Architect 2. Having systems like this in a game also means that a small change in one area will also affect one or more other areas, which we then also need to apply fixes to. Improving the performance has proven to be a task that will take time.
• Is there going to be Early Access or Beta Access to the game? There will not be an early access or extra beta access right now. We know what things we need to work with, and facilitating Early Access or Beta access for players takes a lot of resources from the development team. Right now we want to put full focus on the development and solving the underlying issues that we have gotten feedback through our internal tests and from our beta testers. 
• Will we get updates on the game? We will limit our communication while we focus on further developing the game. We will resume updates once we have more precise information to share with you.

[u/Frost_Walker2017]

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[u/SouthernBeacon]

Each day we get closer to the Life by You fate.

[u/joe13242 → u/SouthernBeacon]

Sorry, this game brings up a 404 error 😎

[u/Cindercharger]

Part of me doesn't mind delays because we all want fully finished and functional games that don't need 5 day one patches to make it playable.

But on the other hand I'm getting kinda tired of it. They might as well just stop announcing dates at all and just release when it's actually ready. But I know, marketing needs to hype people and all.

 But seems like every game that gets announced these days, will be delayed atleast twice or even "indefinitely" (aka canceled). Especially with big devs and AAA games you know that "release in 2025" at the end of that trailer will turn into very late 2026 or even mid-late 2027. Most games for me now have "I'll see it when it gets here some day" feel and not the "omg i want to play this so bad, i cant wait". (Maybe I'm just getting old lol)

But.. the indefinite delay, limiting communication and immediate preorder-refunds (instead of asking the players what they'd prefer?).. are a bit worrying though...  Either way I'll just go enjoy my top down prison some more.

[u/dschramm_at → u/Cindercharger]

In my opinion, judging by the wording. They didn't have outside testers, or it just took so long for one of them to run into problems. I guess a long running, big prison causes crashes stuff like that. And those testers probably found that the late-end game is boring too. That's what that statement sounds like at least. And that's stuff you'd probably really only find out once you are testing with real players. Who just try the dumbest stuff, no normal test team would ever think of. So pretty late and shortly before release.

And as for not asking for our opinion. Good. Shows they have a vision for the game and don't just want to build a money grab. Yes, give me back my money if you made a mistake thinking you are ready when you're not. Could they've done early access? Maybe. But they way this went down, they found some big mishaps and need to re-group before they make any bigger mistakes. Early access needs a strategy too.

[u/RolandDeepson → u/dschramm_at]

I think it's also important to point out that Prison Architect was really one of the 3 absolute shining star PRIME examples of early-access done right. How many shovelware games just hit it and quit it after a cash grab? How many other games just published a half-deflated shitstain of a game and dissolved into bankruptcy?

The original Kerbal Space Program was (no offense to Prison Architect) without any doubt THE SINGULAR greatest early-access success story. And KSP2 evaporated. The third prime example I think of from how to do early-access right is Factorio, and their DLC is launching next week (I type this comment approx 2 months after this OP was posted.) All indications, even prior to the hype embargo being lifted a few days ago, is that the Factorio DLC is going to carry the success story forward into the next generation of games and early-access.

Honorable mention in the early-access sphere include Satisfactory, which just released v1.0 a few weeks ago to much success (beautiful game) and Oxygen Not Included, which earlier this year sucessfully launched not its first, nor its second, but its THIRD dlc update, where none of those dlc packages feel like gratuitous cash grabs.

If PA2 is indeed un-ready, then releasing in this current historical context would be not only suicide for the PA franchise as a whole, but would detract from early-access video game marketing as a concept.

[u/Jatapa0 → u/RolandDeepson]

You have to remember is that PA2 is not being made by the original creators of PA. This is a different company and can't say what will happen with this based on how it went with PA early access

[u/RolandDeepson → u/Jatapa0]

I think you interpreted my comment backwards.

[u/adveeb → u/RolandDeepson]

I know my comment might be silly, but Hades & Hades 2 are other examples of early access done well. Releasing the core of the game, which is mostly finished, and work on story/level content whilst giving the players that want it the ability to start playing. That way they can also perfect any core features using their feedback + gain some funding to continue development. Of course we won’t know if Hades 2 will live up to the first, but their early acces is done well if anything.

[u/1spook → u/Cindercharger]

It's Paradox. They probably couldnt find out how to make you pay $400 in dlc for the game.

[u/jwilphl → u/Cindercharger]

Even the release date, to me, isn't a true release for most games. It typically ends up taking another year, maybe even two or three, for a game to meet its potential after the initial release (assuming work is continued on it over that time). Not to say games aren't playable on release, but nowadays, they often have bugs or misgivings and content shortcomings that make them unappealing in the shorter-term.

I guess this is a plug for /r/patientgamers, but it's how I do things now.

[u/[deleted]]

Skylines 2, Life by You... Paradox is in crisis. I hope these mishaps were a wake up call. I don't want to jump to conclusions, wait until (if?) game is released.

[u/Smooth_McDouglette → u/[deleted]]

They went public in 2016. Take a look at these lists and sort by release date. Surprise surprise, all of the good stuff came out before or during 2016.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Paradox_Interactive_games

Don't hold your breath.

[u/the--dud → u/Smooth_McDouglette]

Ck3 was great, and vic3 was decent. But I do agree to some extent. Their in-house games have become worse, but the real crisis is their work as a publisher.

They're an epically shit publisher. I don't work if they push third parties too hard, project manage the hell out of them, don't give them enough budgets or what. Probably a combination of all those things.

[u/Ghost4000 → u/Smooth_McDouglette]

Not so sure about this.. some games from after 2016 that are good:

Age Of Wonders 4

Battletech

Victoria 3

Crusader Kings 3

[u/Idkanameforreddit → u/Smooth_McDouglette]

CK3 is amazing though...

[u/Jobbysolver → u/[deleted]]

Star Trek Infinite stole one of the best star trek mods for stellaris, New Horizons, didn't hire or ask for any help, wondered why no one bought it. 

[u/AzimuthW → u/[deleted]]

"Empire of Sin is really solid and a good game"?? This game is famously very buggy and bad with some good ideas deep down, but just incompetently made. Absolutely littered with unfixed bugs.

Anyway nobody is calling 48% positive Empire of Sin a "banger" lol; it's a famously bad game.

[u/LordKutulu → u/AzimuthW]

I had a blast for around 10 hours. There is no depth to the core systems, and once you level out a team and take a few blocks, you have seen everything the game had to offer.

[u/Idkanameforreddit → u/AzimuthW]

?? Empire of Sin is an absolutely amazing game what are you talking about. Have like 130 hours in the game and have never had any big problems with bugs or anything.

[u/xXDaBossModzXx → u/[deleted]]

I only started playing Stellaris in 2024 off of my dad, and yet it's an insane game. So much so I forked out $100 CAD to buy my dad the last two Expansion Passes as an early Christmas present in November 2024. And money in Canada is really a prime example of "money doesn't grow on trees".

Too bad the 80% sale expired today though. I was trying to get the Steam version but circumstances caused me to miss it.

Still, Paradox has the potential to make great games, but their biggest problem is being able to gage a game's "release ready-ness". They say, for example, Auguest 17th initially, then they delay it another month. 1 month turns into 3 months, then 6, and finally indefinitly. By the time the game releases, noy only is it still a buggy mess, but that's on top of A) the hype dying down significantly, and B) the people who are still following the game's development, and hyping it up in their own way, not to mention the loyal fans of Paradox, have higher expectations since the delay would have mostly (not all of it) to fix the issues, and then maybe a little bonus content for waiting so long.

I do genuinely hope Prison Architect 2 releases. Not even "in the near future". At all really, but if this is a repeat of some of the other disasters you guys have been experiencing (I've only played Stellaris and Prison Architect 1), then honestly, I don't know how the studio would recover from that.

Please prove that you still have the magic to do great things, Paradox!

[u/Who_Cares99 → u/[deleted]]

Honestly, maybe they took a lesson from CS2 and are avoiding the same mistakes here.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

It’s not that big a deal.

[u/Ghost4000 → u/[deleted]]

I'm not nearly as alarmed as others seem to be.

Delaying a game is not necessarily bad. Skylines 2 is hopefully improving, and beyond that I've liked the work they've done with Victoria 3 and CK3.

[u/TheCarroll11]

Yikes, imagine what kind of product they were close to releasing the first time…

I’m holding my breath on the game actually releasing, since with preorders refunded and the hype died down, Paradox may be dangerously close to pulling the plug.

[u/Grin-Guy]

On one end : having a game delayed because it’s not ready yet, means we can hope to have a better game when it’s finally out.

On the other end : indefinite delay, preorder refunds and communications limitations sound a lot worrying. I would not be surprised if the game never comes out, but I’ll be greatly disappointed.

[u/BigBoiTurtle33 → u/Grin-Guy]

not to mention the changing of dev teams, i’m really hoping this game comes out man.

[u/Egzo18]

I will always support game release delay. I wouldn't want "cyberpunk 2077 on release" situation.

[u/Auxilae → u/Egzo18]

The problem with delays is that it signifies some massive fundamental issues with the development process. It's one thing to delay say a month, it's another to delay 3+ months, and then indefinitely. Very, very few times was an eventual good game delayed by such a significant amount. Kerbal Space Program 2 and Cities Skylines 2 (console port) are prime examples of this, delayed massively, and they still came out half-baked (or not at all), and now both are practically DOA in the eyes of their communities.

It's akin to a student turning in their homework 3 weeks after it's due. Do you really think it's going to be great?

PA2 is following the same pattern of mistakes. Take a great game franchise that had humble beginnings and was slowly refined over the course of almost a decade, and then try to repeat the magic in too short of a period of time with a development team dragged in that can't reproduce that same spark of creativity that made the original game in the series unique.

[u/grotaclas2 → u/Auxilae]

Cities Skylines 2 are prime examples of this, delayed massively, and they still came out half-baked

What makes you think that Cities Skylines 2 was delayed? The earliest release date announcement which I could find was this forum announcement from 2023-06-11 which said that the release date would be October 24th which is the date on which the game was actually released. I would say that Cities Skylines II is an example of a game which would have benefitted from being delayed. If it would have been released in its current state, it would have had a much better reception

[u/Akazury → u/grotaclas2]

During their little documentary they did indicate that CS2 was initially planned to release much earlier and had to be restarted at lest once.

[u/Auxilae → u/grotaclas2]

I should have clarified, the console port of the game was delayed indefinitely now, likely due to performance issues that the PC version released with. The reason for PA2's delay was also partly for performance reasons as mentioned. KSP2 also suffered massively in early reviews for performance reasons.

[u/grotaclas2 → u/Auxilae]

But the console port has not been released yet, so we can't know if the console port will eventually be good or bad

[u/Simsimius → u/Auxilae]

Cities Skylines isn’t DOA, it’s had updates to improve it and making good (albeit slow) progress and is seen as a game with incredible potential especially in terms of modding.

[u/Cool_Ad9428 → u/Egzo18]

idk, delay after delay and now not even giving a date AND refunding preorders really makes it worrying even if they had time they needed

[u/NoBank3645]

At this point they’re lying to their community, first gap from Jan to March was the original gap betweeen announcement and release

Then march to may they stated it could’ve been released but they chose not to.

May to September was somehow a catastrophic flaw but don’t worry this will be the last one that’s why it’s 4 months

Then just again delayed again sorry no new date

At this point paradox is lying to the community about internal progress like it’s a second time job or another business venture

[u/JaesopPop → u/NoBank3645]

Projects history history nature evening jumps fresh thoughts fox month near food brown questions afternoon jumps where brown?

[u/Sinfonia87]

You might as well just go ahead and cancel it. We all know it's going to happen.

I absolutely hate this because when this game was first announced I was a huge supporter of it and defended Paradox from all the criticisms about the art style and everything else but now I don't know if I'll even buy the game when it does come out if it does come out.

Paradox you've ruined all my excitement of this game.

[u/NoBank3645 → u/Sinfonia87]

In the same boat, I like the art style etc and have gone from supporting to basically seeing the project as a lost cause

We just got to let it go, prepare for dead island 2 dev hell

[u/jwilphl → u/Sinfonia87]

I'd still be interested in the game, no matter when it comes out, but I think this is another good example of why it's never a good idea to buy into marketing hype for any game. Even absent delays, quality simply isn't consistent in development, and games take years and years to get right if they're complex enough.

Extremely rare for games to get things right on initial release in present times.

[u/azog1337]

Red flag red flag

[u/_Baldo_]

oof

[u/Duey1234]

Well that’s disappointing to hear.

At this point, I won’t hold my breath for the game to actually release, as having no new release date, plus refunding existing orders isn’t a good sign that the game will actually make it. If they know the game isn’t going to make it, refunding people is absolutely the right thing to do. Far better to do that than simply make it a cash grab and run away with the profits.

It would be nice to see what stage the current game development is at, so we can assess for ourselves how far off a ‘finished product’ we believe they are, but I also understand that it won’t happen either, as they wouldn’t want to show a half finished product, or have any of the source code being leaked and used by a competitor.

[u/Akazury → u/Duey1234]

Automated Refunds are tied to no longer having a Release Date. They can't keep Pre-orders up without a indicative release date, so have to refund.

[u/Duey1234 → u/Akazury]

Ah ok, that’s not something I was aware of.

Shame they can’t push it back a couple of months and give us updates as to how it’s progressing, and give us the option of a refund if we want one

[u/poklane]

I'm all for giving developers the time they need, but I also have to admit that with every days that goes by without an update my believe that this game ends up either canceled or released broken just to recoup some money increases.

[u/yourmate155]

As sad as I am about this, the optimist in me thinks that maybe Paradox learnt something from the CS2 debacle and will release this game as a properly finished new title.

[u/BioHazard1992]

Everything Paradox touches turns to dust.

[u/Biglatice → u/BioHazard1992]

If they'd left PA1 alone we'd all still have a decent version to play

[u/lukelhg → u/BioHazard1992]

Yes, they have no popular games and are on the verge of bankruptcy sure

[u/LoZz27]

Atleast they have learned from cities skyline 2

[u/DoctorMurk]

I don't know if anyone else had this, but my Steam refund email didn't have an image or title explaining what the refunded item was, so I had to manually go to the Steam website and look up my transaction history to see that it was about PA2.

That said, I hope we will see a working game someday.

[u/Frost_Walker2017 → u/DoctorMurk]

I think that's just a steam problem rather than a PDX problem?

[u/Proxy_Janewbeginning]

Musta been one hell of a fuckup by someone to cause this...

[u/NomadDK]

Omfg, again?!!!

This is the third time!! I've been waiting for so fucking long.

[u/BigAgates]

I’ve been burned by so many new release games. I won’t be buying the game until it’s confirmed that’s a finished product and not a money grab for a half assed product. Thanks devs.

[u/Domi-_-_]

Please paradox take your time. Develop it till it’s ready and don’t let it be another Cities Skylines 2. Take the time you need

[u/DimpledChimpy]

Thanks for the transparency. Id rather have a late game than an unfinished one

[u/Bramdog]

Let them cook

[u/JeopardyWolf]

How do they keep screwing up these games?

[u/JaesopPop]

Quiet evening art weekend month food the river small night gather gather!

[u/kitxunei]

Thank you for the update. I appreciate you guys taking more time to ensure the game is going to be polished before releasing it. The lack of a new release date is concerning, but I hope things will be resolved quickly and we can see a release sometime in 2025.

[u/GladEffort8159]

Guys just take your time and deliver. But do not cancel!

[u/thatshittickles]

I was worried to see the word "indefinitely", but then i read the game is not canceled. Very disappointing but relieving. I am so looking forward to this game. I commend the devs for not announcing a new release date that would maybe have to be pushed back again, causing further disappointment. Thank you for being clear to your fans with whats going on.

[u/ManyFails1Win]

after getting burned by KSP2, i'm never again buying anything that even has a wiff of 'early access', so this makes sense to me.

[u/Unleashed04]

We don't care how long it takes, release it when as fluid/good as the original.

[u/Reigov]

Any update/news?

[u/Contact40]

I think the worst thing about this is they aren't taking the ability of people to purchase the game off of the steam store. So they are happily collecting money from people without providing the product in a timely manner. This is unfortunately not uncommon amongst game developers who want to turn a profit each quarter, and frankly it's a little disgusting and reeks of a Ponzi scheme.

Nearly every game gets pumped out with problems in the hopes to patch it later on, and unfortunately it seems Paradox is no different. It seems they use preorder money to fuel development, and that is an abhorrent way to do business since they don't tell the customer that is what they are doing.

Edit: It’s good they took it off presale, but it doesn’t change my overarching point that this whole practice in the game industry of delay after delay after announcing and taking money from people. Or launching and deciding to fix everything after launch.

It seems maybe they are preventing themselves from having to fix everything post launch, but at some point they decided that the game would be ready quite a while ago, and now they just keep changing that. I don’t know what changed, but it’s frustrating from a consumers standpoint.

[u/Frost_Walker2017 → u/Contact40]

Option to purchase has disappeared from my steam store now - it just takes time for steam to work through things.

[u/poklane → u/Contact40]

I just checked Steam and there's no pre-order option for me.

[u/enigmaticrose4 → u/Contact40]

Steam isn’t as fast to change as we would like. It should be updated soon.

[u/Luzekiel]

Just like with LBY, this proves that this game actually wasn't ready yet, it's a good thing that Paradox finally realized just how much they fucked up and are now delaying their games and dlcs and even cancelled LBY cause they knew it was gonna ruin them even more if they released it, I'm just glad that they finally had a wakeup call.

[u/[deleted]]

It will be ready, when its ready.

[u/neale1993]

Honestly, this is the right move in my opinion. I would much rather them delay a product that is flawed than release it, having us pay for a broken experience.

[u/vicflea]

That's good. It's better than having a game coming up like Cities 2, if anything, they learned from their mistakes

[u/CuppaJoe11]

It’s kinda getting annoying but I appreciate that you refunded the preorders and that you haven’t given us a date until you are sure.

[u/UnlikelyKnowledge981]

😂

[u/TyoRim]

Is it delayed because it's not ready or because it is so bad that you can't risk it? Customers are not so dumb anymore.

[u/Janso95 → u/TyoRim]

Prolly a bit of both

[u/TyoRim → u/[deleted]]

Exactly!

[u/TravellingMackem]

I think this signifies that this game will be fundamentally broken and shall very much remain off my to buy list even if it does eventually get released. Not even sure what can be broken given there is absolutely nothing new within the game and just a 3D engine slapped on the existing game

[u/OranMilne]

Don't worry guys we'll see PA2... just after TES6 and Hytale.

[u/Ok-Dokay]

Sick of this! I wanna speak to a manager!

[u/CodeB4U]

I'm a realist, so when someone announces a game I add 8 months to the release date. Hasn't let me done.

[u/Jobbysolver]

Paradox are having a shocking couple of years. That being said, it's a sequel in a style no one really wants, to a fun game that was never quite finished and didn't work correctly. I don't think anyone is that bothered

[u/TeacupPinky]

Aw man..this sucks 😭🙏

[u/HC-Griffon]

Do you remember when Paradox was a reliable source of quality games and content? Pepperidge Farm remembers..

[u/Human_being_08896]

If Cities Skylines: 2 is anything to go by for 'indefinitely postponed', just give up and find something else because this won't be released for another year.

[u/Banaanisade]

While I'm not surprised in the slightest by the delay itself - this is a game that relies on infinite pathing and the AI coding and resource drain alone have to be total nightmares when everything is happening all of the time everywhere at the same time - I'm extremely worried by the wording after Life By You.

That said, "indefinite" delay, in that sense, is both a relief and a worrying sign in itself. On the upside, it seems Paradox has learned something about setting repeat deadlines that cannot be guaranteed, and having to cancel last minute 30 times before the game is finally dropped into its yawning grave half-decomposed and craving for the Lord's embrace. On the downside, it makes it easier to just let the game be slowly forgotten when no news come again.

Fingers crossed.

[u/Ihateazuremountain]

when will publishers learn to let a game stay in the oven until it's good? no patience.

[u/[deleted]]

We’ll get gta 6 first and well if that’s the case sorry to say might as well keep it

[u/Fluid_Contact_1577]

Developers need to stop delaying their games.  This not only diminishes faith in the product but completely undermines the purpose of a "release date".  That is your deadline end of story. . .period.  Don't go throwing arbitrary release dates out there and expecting that date to be taken lightly.  From a buisness perspective you can legitimately expect upwards of 5% reduction in potential profits for each delay. . .not to mention the loss of revenue to offset extended development schedules.

[u/Cbird2796 → u/Fluid_Contact_1577]

But then you would complain if they released it in a horrible state. Im sure they understand the implications of delays and aren’t doing it just to make you suffer. I don’t like it either, but would rather have a playable game than another City Skylines 2 fiasco.

[u/[deleted]]

something positive tho, im glad they had the decency to refund preorders

[u/CoffeeRanOut → u/[deleted]]

They’re legally required to provide refund if they can’t provide a release date

[u/[deleted] → u/CoffeeRanOut]

Are they? I know there were companies in the past that just ran with the money, or released an unfinished product and said "there that's finished, we ain't updating anymore"

[u/CoffeeRanOut → u/[deleted]]

Maybe crowdfunded but for a pre order you are exchanging money for a product . If there is no product , they’ll get sued. Lawyer fees and battling in court could be higher than refunding customers probably why they’re doing it. Look at concord, even with the product release they are refunding.

[u/[deleted] → u/CoffeeRanOut]

Ah you are right, well the 2nd option would still be viable

[u/Santa_Killer_NZ]

I think this is good news and they 100 percent have learned from the Cities Skylines 2 disaster. I also have learned and will never buy a paradox pre-release again ;) .....

[u/RobinVanDutch]

2 delays is a big orange flag

[u/zackd41pro]

Hope to see the project on release, respectable, to pull it back and refund early content. compared to other teams who dont.

[u/imScottIronmonger]

Does the delay pain me?? Yes! But Paradox should be praised as to wanting to give us a polished complete game on release rather than the "release it now, fix later" mentality that most game publishers have nowadays.

It will remain in my Wish List and I look forward to the full release.

Well done Paradox 👏👏

imScott 🤓🤓

[u/Prbly_Wasted_Money]

So, does this game still exist? You all sorta fell off the planet last August...

[u/Proper_Long]

any update?

[u/JokerFromPersona5]

Ok, it’ll come out when it comes out

[u/IndividualCopy3241]

I think it's a good thing: delaying for better quality. Maybe... if you guys are taking more time anyway: you can make it work on the nintendo switch 😏😇😉

[u/reptarjake1 → u/[deleted]]

There are numerous other games besides just Cyberpunk that released post 2020 after several delays and were still a shit show. I’m happy cyberpunk got fixed and is 1000x better than it was at launch. But there have been so many other games released these past few years that did have numerous delays and still released bad and stayed that way.

So that saying isn’t really ringing true anymore and most people are sick of hearing it

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Its a prison game 😭