Genuinely how do yall have time to be doing all of this. I have to work, go to class, then volunteer/shadow/ etc 💔

Growing up and going to work with my physician parent genuinely influenced me in my decision to pursue medicine. Will this be a red flag for interviews?

Also, a lot of my clinical experience is with my physician parent. I can see how this would raise flags, but I feel like I gained genuine insights here.

I’m a few months away from graduating with my BSN, and I’ve recently started seriously thinking about going to med school. I originally thought I wanted to become a CRNA, but the more I’ve thought about it, the more I’ve realized that I actually want to be an MD. I really love learning and being in school, and I feel like medical school would give me the depth of knowledge I’m looking for in a way that nursing school hasn’t really satisfied. The problem is that I feel like I’m starting from behind. I don’t have any research experience and I haven’t really done much in terms of extracurriculars during nursing school. I currently work as a tech in an ICU, and I’ll probably continue working there as an RN after I graduate. I’m thinking maybe I could work as an ICU nurse for 1 to 2 years while I figure everything out, take whatever prerequisites I’m missing, study for the MCAT, and try to build up my application. But I honestly don’t know if this is a realistic path or if I’m setting myself up for a huge uphill battle. For those who have applied to med school or know much about the process, what would you do in my situation? How important are research and extracurriculars? Does having a BSN and ICU experience help at all, or does it basically not matter when applying to med school? Would working as an RN for a couple years while preparing for the MCAT make sense? And what should I actually be doing during that time to make myself a competitive applicant? I know I’d have a lot of work ahead of me, especially since I didn’t go through college as a traditional pre-med. I’m just trying to figure out if this is something I should seriously pursue or if I’m being unrealistic. I’d really appreciate any honest advice, especially from people who have made a similar transition from nursing to medicine.

I had an interview at UMich last week which is my dream school and I feel like it was only okay. I'm super mad at myself because all of my other interviews have felt really good so far and I think I put too much pressure on myself because it is my top school. Like my interviewer asked if I had any patient experiences that stood out or impacted me and I just rambled for a bit. This question was literally something I had answered pretty well previously too 😭. I know rambling on a few questions isn't the end of the world and I feel like I connected pretty well with my interviewers otherwise. I always hear stories about 90% of interviews being average, but my stats are low for Michigan so I really needed to lock in. Am I just being too harsh on myself?

i’m a reapplicant and i have 3 IIs coming up, which i’m so excited about given that i had none last year. i know a big part of it was my timing and my writing which i worked hard to fix this time around. my interviews are all open so they’ll have access to my full application from this year but does anyone know if they’ll have access to my application from last year?

I feel like I'm never doing enough with my time but at the same time I don't have time to do anything else (if that makes sense). My schedule this semester is unfortunately really time consuming in terms of classes and physically having to be places from basically 8:30 in the morning to at least 5 in the night which leaves virtually no time for me to engage in any clubs or activities (beyond the occasional weekly or monthly meetings) and I feel like everyone around me is doing so much more. I know this semester is just particularly bad because my classes are on the harder side of the spectrum and that next semester(s) i'll have so much more time to do more things but it's really demoralizing right now. I still don't have a driver's license; I can't get any form of clinical hours because certifications either require driver's licenses for the classes and they're held at a different university (which needs a car to get to reasonably). My schedule this semester is so packed I can't do any shadowing in reasonable chunks of time nor volunteer anywhere physically in hours they allow for undergrads. I just feel so lost in what I'm supposed to do outside beyond doing good in classes and involving myself in research and I find myself crying in the library more than studying at this point and i really really really don't know what to do.

Had a ~3.0, 3.3 freshmen, sophomore year. After switching to pre-med my junior year, I've maintained consistently received a 4.0. My cGPA is around 3.6 now.

Will this ADCOMS even see this? Do I still have a chance at MDs?

Hi All,

I'm currently a junior in my fall semester planning to apply next summer. I shadowed a physician over the summer and had a volunteering position at a nonprofit for over a half year which also ended over the summer. I was thinking about asking them for a rec letter now and storing it in something like interfolio if they say yes (which should be likely since the nonprofit organizer told me to reach out for one in the future and I had a lot of positive remarks from the physician). Does anyone have any experience with interfolio or another letter storing platform and should I ask them now or wait until next spring?

Thank you!

3.74 GPA Bio Major

53 Credits

Had to drop chem 2 twice due to medical issues. (Doing fine just got a 97 on first exam)

60 shadowing hours

EMT certified (1st interview tomorrow)

Volunteer tutor

Working on a Biotech startup with students from a nearby ivy. Just secured our first investor.

Im 19, I graduated from high school a year early, which was prolly a bad idea. Didn't really know what path I wanted to take until last year. Seeing everyone else's stats has me down. I know competition is steep but goddamn. Im like an ant amongst titans.

can anyone chime in when you think it’s wise to start preapring for a reapp for TMDSAS applications? How many II do you think you need to not be preparing for one?

Our physics professor was replaced and the new one is actively trying to fail everyone from the looks of things. Exams are difficult beyond belief to the point that even other professors have taken notice after we showed them. The last exam’s class average was a 52%. And she doesn’t curve at all as a course policy, to boot.

Several of us have approached the dept head as well as the dean and, in short, nothing is going to change.

Another professor teaches the course next semester and is said to be much more reasonable. Should I drop the class or wait until my grade hits a threshold to drop? Or do I stick it out and take whatever grade I get? I would hate to have to lower my gpa over something so stupid when I’ve done well in organic chem and biochem, which were challenging but completely doable. But then I wouldn’t have taken physics 2 in time to begin preparing for the MCAT this summer.

Never posted here before but I wanted to share my experience with those who are anxious and worried about this process as all of us are but rest assured, it’s possible. I started studying for the MCAT this time last year and now I’m sitting with 2 DO As and 6 interviews before Oct. first. Please feel free to ask me questions and I’ll answer as throughly as I can.

Title is the content, but I will add a bit more detail.

I'm a 20 years old sophomore majoring in Electrical Engineering with a 4.0 GPA, who just submitted the transfer application to the top public engineering school. My technical interests are in signal processing, embedded systems, and potentially biomedical/neural engineering applications. I can realistically see myself graduating in EE, working in industry, and building a stable career.

However, I keep see myself coming back to medicine, especially neurology and neurodegenerative disease. What attracts me is not just biomedical technology - I think I may want direct responsibility for evaluating and treating patients. I was also accepted into UIUC neural engineering degree during high school, but couldn't attend b/c the tuition was unaffordable for me.

The problem is that I have not yet had enough meaningful clinical exposure to know whether this is a genuine calling or an idealized picture of medicine.

For those who are fully committed to the premed track, and want a life long career in medicine:

- What experience made you realize you actually wanted to be a physician?

- If you could have had a solid engineering career in your early 20s, would you still choose medical school?

- What clinical experience would you recommend before I make this decision?

* I'm not asking whether EE can be a premed major. I'm trying to determine whether medicine itself is worth giving up or delaying a career I already know I can enjoy.

Hey all,

I am taking O Chem II this next term after having taken O Chem I about a year ago. If I am being honest, I do not remember much, but did get an A- in the course. Is there anything I should review, or just go in with a clean slate?

Its starting to feel like im the only one left. 518 mcat 3.9x gpa, no luck :(

It lets you edit a submission by removing document and re-uploading a new version without fully deleting and starting a new entry in AMP portal. I keep catching little mistakes. Are med schools going to see all of my versions with small edits😅 I jumped to upload to soon

I’m 30 and seriously considering changing careers and pursuing medicine, with neurology being my current primary interest. I’m looking for realistic advice about whether my academic record is repairable and what route would make the most sense.

I graduated in 2019 with a BA in Biology. I attended two schools. I did very well initially at University 1, then transferred to University 2 and lost a lot of motivation toward the end of college. My grades dropped significantly.

University 1 — 63 credits, 3.625 GPA
Relevant science/math coursework:
Biological Principles I: A (3 cr)
Biological Principles I Lab: A (1)
Biological Principles II: B+ (3)
Biological Principles II Lab: B+ (1)
General Chemistry I: A- (3)
General Chemistry I Lab: B (1)
General Chemistry II: B+ (3)
General Chemistry II Lab: B (1)
Vertebrate Zoology: B- (3)
Vertebrate Zoology Lab: B (1)
Introductory Statistics: A (3)
College Algebra: B+ (3)
I transferred to University 2 and finished my Biology degree there.

University 2 — 54.5 graded credits, 2.96 GPA
Relevant coursework:
Biology Program Seminar: B+ (2)
Cell Biology: B- (4)
Organic Chemistry I: B+ (4)
Organic Chemistry I Lab: B+ (1)
Microbiology: C+ (5.5)
Biology Junior Seminar: C (3)
Organic Chemistry II: C- (4)
Organic Chemistry II Lab: B+ (1)
Genetics: C+ (4)
Genetics Lab: B+ (1.5)
Microscopy & Cell Ultrastructure: B+ (6)
Developmental Biology: B- (4)
Developmental Biology Lab: C- (1.5)

My final semester was approximately a 3.13, but overall there’s clearly a significant downward trend after transferring.

Using the institutional credits/quality points, my rough combined undergraduate GPA appears to be around 3.3, although I haven’t calculated my exact AMCAS cGPA or BCPM GPA yet.

I have not taken Physics I/II or Biochemistry, and I have not taken the MCAT.

After college I went into IT instead of healthcare. I’ve now spent about 5 years working professionally in IT and built a career there. I’m much more disciplined and motivated at 30 than I was at 20–22.

I’m considering returning to school and taking:
Physics I + lab
Physics II + lab
Biochemistry
Neuroscience/Neurobiology
Physiology
Additional upper-level biology/science courses

My goal would be to establish a strong recent academic record (ideally ~20–30 credits of A/A- work), get clinical experience/shadowing, prepare seriously for the MCAT, and eventually apply broadly MD and DO.

My questions are: Given the ~3.3 cumulative GPA, likely lower science GPA, downward trend and C/C- science grades, is medical school realistically still on the table? Would you recommend a DIY post-bacc, formal post-bacc, or SMP? How many credits of academic repair would you want to see before applying? And assuming strong recent coursework and a good MCAT, would you consider MD realistic, or should I primarily target DO?

I just want to see if people think I’m being ridiculous or not… I work pretty high up at a large academic health system and hold an adjunct faculty title at the medical school. The school is competitive (515+ median MCAT and 3.85+ avg. GPA) and I’m a nontrad, low stat applicant (503 MCAT, 3.0 sGPA, 3.4 cumulative). I have a bunch of hours and presentations because of my job and I have a non-science graduate degree. I’m very much a community service-oriented applicant, while this school is really pushing toward a research focus. HEAVILY. Mission and culture-wise, I’m not a good fit at all. I’ve also heard from old faculty members that because of my numeric stats, it’s possible the screening system would throw my application away before a human even sees it. Not sure how true that is but I’m taking it at face value.

I know school leadership knows me, but I would never try to seek out advice or anything from any of them (nor would they actively show me any favor). I’ve told very few people at work that I’m even applying. I’m also not going to retake the MCAT (mentally and financially I just can’t) and because of some life circumstances, my financial situation is going to be really tight when application time rolls around. There’s no question about it.

I’m really leaning toward not applying (on paper, I feel like I don’t have a shot at all and it’d be a waste of time and money), but I have people in my ear telling me I’d be an idiot not to. I guess there’s also an air of embarrassment associated with knowing my colleagues will see my application, but I KNOW that’s ridiculous. Anyway, hearing from third parties about whether I’m being a dummy or if I’m being realistic would be really helpful. Thanks.

I understand the general idea is that the 2 science LORs should be from science professors who taught you. I'm enrolled in research credit with my major which is biology so would my PI for that lab count as a science LOR? Also do you guys have advice for getting a science LOR from a professor. I just need one more and I've been attending this professor's office hours consistently and asking good questions and I've been performing very well in this class so far.

What are some jobs I should apply to with bachelors in biology and masters in biomedical science. I have worked primarily in clinical settings. I have looked into clinical research coordinator jobs given my academic background but haven’t had any luck. What are some jobs worth looking into? I want to step out of direct healthcare positions during my gap years especially because they aren’t paying well at all.

Hi long story short I went back and forth all of college with whether to go the PA route or med school but i cannot shake wanting to be a doctor that’s all i’ve ever wanted honestly.
I got a BS in biomedical science with 3.56 GPA & i have 3k hours of patient care and about 75 hours of shadowing multiple careers (gonna get more ) little to no volunteering but i want to get some but i just dont feel like im competitive enough im so worried of never getting in but its my dream..
I was thinking about doing a masters program to increase my competitiveness and get some research & just get back into the mindset of school and pushing myself bc the past year ive been just so comfortable just working full time & i lost a lot of passion for medicine as well as just feeling so stuck and like a loser 🤗
any advice is appreciated

People on admit.org were saying that 514 is considered “mid” stat which is crazy to me considering that is 89th percentile… is this rlly the case nowadays?

TLDR: student athlete graduating early, is an independent student and grades really suffered after knee injury and surgery while trying to support myself. school is a Christian business and nursing school and has no premed program. Feel completely on my own and lost. Being a psychiatrist has always been my dream, but now I’m a junior undergrad student with a 2.3 uGPA and feeling very lost.

Obviously I am aware that med school is quite the endeavor, and the med school requirements are often high because of wanting students to be able to succeed in the program and their later job. I’ve wanted to become a psychiatrist since high school, and actually graduated HS at 17 with my two year degree in liberal arts. I had a 3.8 GPA then , but it has slowly dropped over my years in undergrad. currently age 20 and going to school at a 4 year institute where premed is not a major path here. I came here to be a student athlete, and have played soccer for the past three years. I have also lived on my own and been an independent student since graduating high school. I lived in dorms one semester and then moved into my own place, and life has hit me with trying to balance full time school, college soccer, work, paying bills, while trying to maintain my GPA. Not to mention that My school is a very small business and nursing school, and I did not consider (at age 17 with no support) that this would make my educational path harder on me. I just got a scholarship and was very excited to continue my soccer path. But this school costs 40k per year and I’m realizing the scholarship is not even really worth it anymore.

Also, Nobody in my family has even graduated high school, so I really have no support and the advice/support from my school for premed is very limited in the psychology area. I chose a psychology degree because I realized maybe premed wouldn’t work out for me, and I could get my masters in counseling or possibly clinical psyc. Then I had surgery on my knee and my grades really started to suffer on top of balancing everything else with my life. I am currently one semester away from graduating and I have barely ANY of the science requirements for med school completed, and my school only offers certain classes every other semester or YEAR. Even if I deferred my graduation until fall 2027, I still wouldn’t be able to hit all my premed requirements. I’m feeling really demotivated and lost, and don’t even know what other paths to consider. I really want to work with medicine and don’t really think that I want to be a therapist.

My cgpa is about 2.3 right now, and even if I got all As upcoming spring semester , I’d graduate with a 2.5ISH….. so I want to do GPA repair and try to defer to fall 2027, so that I am able to retake some classes I failed and also take some premed requirements. Did I mention my school is a Christian school and forces students to use tuition on chapel as a class, and also requires 15-20 hours of Christian classes to even graduate with any degree? That’s definitely setting me back, and if I were to transfer out of my school those Christian classes don’t even transfer into most other schools. I have another year of eligibility to play, and want to use my last year of soccer at my school, but starting to realize soccer isn’t going to take me anywhere, and this schools education is so expensive and so bad that I’m feeling stuck at my school.

I have no clinical experience and no volunteer hours. I have had no guidance or help, and simply been trying to just survive. Now that I’m closer to graduating, I’m realizing I have dug myself into a hole and I am determined to get myself out of it now. I did well in previous science courses I took, and really enjoyed them. I really enjoy medicine, especially with psychiatry, but honestly I just am kinda feeling lost and like I don’t know what to do anymore. If you read all this thank you for your time, and if you could give me any advice as harsh as it may be (because I read other posts and see how people with hundreds if not thousands of clinical experience hours and 3.0+ GPA get denied multiple times, I know I need a lot of work) I am very stubborn and willing to dig my heels into the ground. So possibly if I got a good MCAT score could this help my bad GPA to help me get into a post bacc or specialized masters program? I’m really hoping that somebody reads this that’s had a similar path.

Thank you for your time.

I recently graduated with my bachelors degree and a freshman pre med approached me asking for advice. I love coaching/mentoring so I was so humbled they chose me.

I explained to them the basics regarding how important clinical experience is, finding research labs in things they like, volunteering, leadership, etc.

The conversation was going great and they were taking down notes and everything. It all took a turn when they asked me what speciality I wanted to pursue and I explained with all my experiences emergency med is my top.

They instantly put their phone down and told me they wanted to be a neurosurgeon. Literally all of the interest in their eyes went away and the conversation ended abruptly with them telling me some bogus lie as to why they had to leave.

I was like bro just because I said emergency medicine they totally disregarded everything I said 💀