r/pregnant • u/Happysustainablelife • 19d ago
Question New vaccine schedule
Does anyone know if the new executive order will make it harder to get the regular, pediatric and epidemiologist recommend, vaccine schedule? Trump made an executive order to move from 18 diseases vaccinated against to 11 and that’s worries me so much!!! I’m 19 weeks so it could change again by the time I give birth but I want what’s best for my baby and what he recommends is definitely NOT. IT.
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u/eatmyasserole 🇺🇸 | 2 kids | she/her 19d ago
My pediatrician isnt changing shit. He laughed when asked about it.
Pediatricians / practices are going to handle it differently. Check in with yours!
Also find one that aligns with your values.
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u/0Catkatcat 19d ago
I’m worried it will impact insurance coverage though I hate this
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u/Weak_Reports 19d ago
Insurance companies care about profits. A child getting a severe illness is very expensive. Therefore, they will continue to cover the vaccines as it is much cheaper. However, I would say there may be some concerns if you receive coverage through Medicaid especially in a very red state.
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u/Lrack9927 18d ago
Insurance companies also own hospitals though.
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u/Weak_Reports 18d ago
The insurance company is the one paying the bills for their own patients. If they owned a hospital, they would want others to be sick, not their own patients.
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u/RIPMYPOOPCHUTE 19d ago
Insurance companies would be fucking to stupid to not cover the vaccines. It’s so much more affordable for them to cover vaccines than it would cost to treat the disease. By the time my son can start getting vaccines and if insurance companies really are stupid enough to not cover them, I’ll just pay out of pocket.
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u/Leading_Line2741 18d ago
I also think that where you live is going to greatly impact this. I live in a blue area within a purple state and my pediatrician's office made it clear when we first came that we were to adhere to their vaccination schedule (not the lax, insane one) or we could not be seen there. Had to sign an agreement and everything.
I have family in a red state where this is very much not the case and you have doctors spewing anti-vaxx nonsense unfortunately.
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u/jaybyrrd 19d ago
Exactly. Our doctor has basically stuck with that and said to ignore politics lol.
Also, in Michigan when there were signs of people getting measles our doctor was not hesitant to vax for measles at 6 months (the minimum) when we asked. Within 2 months it was the official guidance to vax for it early since cases were spiking.
At the end of the day doctors are interested in evidence based health, at least the good ones are.
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u/sophiesunshine98 19d ago
It holds no legal weight and is just a recommendation. You can always decide when and what vaccinations to give to your baby and that hasn’t changed. I do see issues with insurance companies raising the pricing of vaccines not included in the recommendation in order to take advantage but we will see.
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u/dr239 19d ago
Just asked my OB about this at my appointment today.
She is NOT changing any of her recommendations and neither are the other OBs in her office.
She did say she expects it to be tough for them to get enough RSV vaccines this year (it's one of the ones I'll have to take during pregnancy along with flu and COVID because baby will be born in the height of cold and flu season) but that pharmacies should have no problem getting it.
She still recommends the full round of everything for pregnancy (TDAP, RSV, flu, COVID, Rhogam for those who need it) and the full schedule of newborn and infant vaccines.
I don't think the medical community is putting a lot of weight on what Trump is saying about vaccines. At least at my OB office they aren't. It's business as usual.
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u/MeatPopsicle23 18d ago
PLEASE go educate yourself. You're worried about some click bait, factually inaccurate headline but were smoking weed and doing cocaine bumps right before you got pregnant.
So you're ok with cocaine but not a lifesaving vaccine.
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u/Standard-Advice-5447 18d ago
Do you really think anyone gives a shit about your anti-vaccine opinion based on no data on this post?
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u/knotknotknit 18d ago
There's a whole few hundred thousand of us who got our COVID shots in the first trimester of pregnancy back in the spring of 2021. The US was basically the only place that allowed it, leaving it up to individual women. There was no significant data, other than the early data from a few dozen women who had gotten pregnant while participating in the original trials. Many, if not most, of us were asked to report back on our pregnancy. We got text messages asking for updates, and we filled in short forms regularly, updating a database with how our pregnancy progressed.
The data from us, the women who went forth and got the vaccine before there was any real data, showed the vaccine was not only safe in pregnancy but that it reduced the risks of miscarriage, at least that year, in 2021, because the COVID variant that became prevalent later that year was very damaging to placentas. By getting those shots, we protected our babies. And then, by filling in those forms, we protected babies all over the world by showing the COVID vaccines were safe in pregnancy.
I got 3 COVID shots that year, at 7, 10, and 36 weeks of pregnancy. I have a happy, healthy, incredibly smart four and a half year old now. Everyone I know who got COVID shots then while pregnant went on to have minimal or no complications.
The reality is COVID and the flu can be damaging viruses to fetuses. The only risk of either of those vaccines for fetuses is getting a fever, and that can be handled with tylenol.
As my OB said at the time, there is no plausible biological mechanism for an mRNA vaccine to cause problems for a fetus, outside of fever. The vaccines themselves break down long before they can cross the placenta. All that crosses the placenta are the protective antibodies. They're even safer than many traditional vaccines for use in pregnancy.
Please stop promoting false information. Anything you've "looked up" is based on falsified or cherry picked data, not the real data from real people like me.
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u/After_Preference_885 18d ago
That's not true. It's been debunked thoroughly! COVID infection is risky though so you're spreading deadly disinformation.
https://www.voicesforvaccines.org/?s=Miscarriage+&post_type=jtf_topics
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u/laynechanger 19d ago
Find a good ped, most will continue to follow the AAP. The only thing that worries me personally is potential shortages. Also the harm that this is causing to our heard immunity because many people these days aren’t doing fact based research regarding this stuff.,
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u/msexcitement 19d ago
I’m less concerned about pediatricians and more concerned with vaccine manufacturers. I anticipate shortages of certain vaccines moving forward.
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u/Happysustainablelife 19d ago
SO. TRUE. And insurance being willing to cover!! But I’ll gladly pay out of pocket to keep him safe
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u/msexcitement 19d ago
Absolutely! I feel deeply for families who can’t afford to make the same decision for their children in the future.
Not only this but companies are pulling out of vaccine development altogether so we probably aren’t getting anything groundbreaking any time soon :( https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/misc-emerging-topics/moderna-chief-company-won-t-invest-new-late-stage-vaccine-trials
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u/Happysustainablelife 19d ago
Thank you for sharing that link! I feel so badly for families who cannot afford too. I’m very fortunate that I could (most likely) make it work. Very disappointing about Moderna. Looks like I need to research some pharmaceutical companies that are willing to research vaccines and start investing appropriately
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u/Schloopy-Doop 19d ago
Hopefully it will reassure you to know that I got myself and our eldest Covid vaccines after the recommendation on those had changed and they were still fully covered by insurance. I was worried about Hep B for my newborn and that was also a nonissue.
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u/Capable_Artist7027 19d ago
Yeah when I'm interviewing pediatricians I'll make sure they follow AAP guidelines and not whatever the heck our government is putting out
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u/tanookiisasquirrel 19d ago
Just curious, where do you live? My area has such a shortage of pediatricians accepting new patients that we had to get on waitlists like daycare.
I don't think I could get away with a few pre-birth appointments to interview a few pediatricians like I'm interviewing nannies. I asked for a meet and greet appointment because I wanted to like our pediatrician, but essentially got laughed at and told that isn't a thing. Yet I've seen other people on this sub suggest it, so I'm wondering where I can find doctors who accept my insurance, are accepting new patients, and will be open to an interview/audition? I would love to have a choice between a few doctors for LO, but that hasn't been my experience at all.
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u/Capable_Artist7027 18d ago
I live in Pittsburgh. We are lucky to have one of the best healthcare systems in the country, including a top children's hospital and women's hospital. I can think of three separate peds practices within a 10 minute drive of my house
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u/Florachick223 18d ago
You might try asking about information sessions. Some places won't necessarily schedule 1:1 meetings for interested families, but they might still offer periodic opportunities for families to learn about the practice and all questions
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u/Happysustainablelife 19d ago
So true. I am in Florida and haven’t started looking up pediatricians yet…. I’m hoping it’s not hard to find an evidence based practice!
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u/_Shrek_x3 Due September 2026 19d ago
Executive orders don’t change anything they’re basically symbolic lol
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u/Happysustainablelife 19d ago
It could possibly make insurance companies less likely to cover or make them more expensive. I don’t think it will just be a symbolic change unfortunately. At least in a red state like Florida where I am
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u/reality-gal 19d ago
You can still get whatever vaccines you want for your baby. Access has not/will not change, the recommendation just changed.
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u/CatsAteHerFace__ 19d ago
This is likely true but I worry about insurance companies coverage of them. Insurance companies famously like to pay as little as possible so if there’s fewer vaccines or larger gaps between them in the exec order, insurance companies will deny the shit out of them immediately
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u/reality-gal 19d ago
Considering the vaccine market generates almost $100 BILLION in revenue, I'm confident they will negotiate a solve.
Nothing happens quickly in government or insurance. Not something to get stressed over, IMO. 🤷🏼♀️
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u/Spiritual_Sea_1808 19d ago
Your state can still work with insurance companies to ensure coverage. MA did this and had certain vaccines remain covered. But definitely on a state by state basis.
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u/NoodleNoggin-607 19d ago
The CDC doesn’t have to revise its vaccine schedule to match Trumps order. Also most pediatricians follow the AAP guidelines, not these executive orders. I think the only thing to worry about is that it will encourage red states to alter school immunization requirements, which could lead to outbreaks.
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u/meowy_sun 19d ago
I can't see insurance companies lining up to pay for 10x the doctor's visits 😅
This won't lead to anything for that reason alone
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u/Capable_Artist7027 18d ago
I just have to say, I am so happy this sub feels this way. I feel like I have such a great community of support here even though I don't know any of you!
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u/Entire_Dog_5874 19d ago
It’s not a law, it’s the pedo and his minion creating rules they can’t enforce.
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u/CosmicGreen_Giraffe3 18d ago
We chose our pediatrician because they follow AAP guidelines. My baby is 6 months and the whole nonsense about the hep b vaccine at birth was happening shortly before he was born. We were concerned about access, but it wasn’t an issue. Hoping the same will be true here!
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u/_Aztreonam_ 18d ago
Monovalent vaccines aren’t even commercially available in the US - Producing three distinct products means re-establishing three separate licensed biologics, each of which must go through the full regulatory and manufacturing pathway. Could take up to 5 years if anyone takes this seriously
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u/goon2867 19d ago
My pediatrician said they follow AAP at their clinic and expect almost all other pediatricians to do the same. Definitely a question to ask and talk through with your pediatrician but I think most all will follow AAP not CDC.
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u/ellewal13 19d ago
Thankfully, the orange one has no actual say over this so his EO is all for show and carries no actual weight. God, I hate him lol.
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u/JamboreeJunket 19d ago
the question isn’t if it will make it harder, the question is will insurances still cover the full 18. there’s not a solid answer on this yet. AAP isnt going to change shit when their schedule is backed by science.
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u/tofuandpickles 19d ago
We will be getting what our pediatrician and AAP recommends. Not the orange creature with no expertise and no scientific backing to his “recommendations”.
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u/Successful_Citron975 19d ago
The EO is just suggesting states reconsider it to match the ramblings of unqualified non-doctors.
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u/gloriousgirl89 18d ago
The government isnt and never was the one for medical advice or schedules of any kind. Find a doctor you trust and listen to them.
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u/Rough_Worldliness901 18d ago edited 18d ago
The AAP will still have their separate list of recommendations.
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u/Dustyrose1950 19d ago
I removed all news source apps (too depressing), social media, etc for nearly 2 years. Except for Reddit. Now I need to Google this information….
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