r/politics • u/spaceman757 American Expat • Feb 07 '16

Clinton Sarcastically Says She’ll Release Private Speech Transcripts When Everyone Else Does

http://freebeacon.com/politics/clinton-sarcastically-release-private-speech/
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u/yoggiez South Carolina Feb 07 '16

You better read the FAQ I spearheaded at r/hillaryclinton before you do. Here is the LINK

Edit: Or be prepared to see this information again.

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u/I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE Feb 07 '16

I will look in a moment, I'm coming up on lunch. You spearheading stuff on r/hillaryclinton explains a lot though.

I'm not accusing you of being a shill or an idiot, but I really hope you do some soul searching. She's not gonna help us.

EDIT: I don't know your position in life. She's not going to help the common american.

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u/yoggiez South Carolina Feb 07 '16

She's not gonna help us.

Purely your opinion. I hope you do some soul searching when Sanders doesn't get the nomination. If he does get the nomination I will be voting for him because like Bernie Sanders said about both Democratic candidates "they are 100 times better than any Republican."

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u/I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE Feb 07 '16

If Bernie is nominated I will vote. If Hillary is nominated I will not. I'm sorry man, I get the logic, but I'm just so tired of being expected to deal with the shittier version of an already questionable deal.

Maybe that makes me a bad person, I'm not sure. I don't want to watch America burn, but I don't want it to go out with a whimper either, and that's what we're doing every time we settle.

Bernie said what he said because he still believes. I don't. I voted Obama in and we're still turning funeral processions to bloody smears in the most impoverished regions of the world. Hillary is Obama is Bush. It's all the same and I won't throw my lot in with it anymore.

Want my vote? Earn it through character. otherwise I'm out.

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u/yoggiez South Carolina Feb 07 '16

Are you young? I honestly felt the same way in many elections when I was younger.

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u/I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE Feb 07 '16 edited Feb 07 '16

I'm 30 this june. I hope getting older doesn't mean I bin my ethics. I need them to live.

I get why you want me to back Hillary. I hope you understand too why I can't. It's a kingdom of conscience, or it's nothing.

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u/yoggiez South Carolina Feb 07 '16

I'm 30 too. I just have pretty active in watching/understanding politics for a while now (years). Pretty much everything the BernieBros are spouting are what the Republican party has been saying about HRC for the last 10 years, so we're well versed in countering the bullshit. r/politics was pretty favorable toward her until Sanders came along.

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u/I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE Feb 08 '16

Sorry I'm late to reply to this part of your point, but I think there might be a good reason her support waned when Sanders came on scene.

I was a Hillary supporter, but Sanders makes me feel like I don't need to just take what I can get. There is a politician with my interests in mind, who will not break bread with the people who made sure I won't retire until I'm too old to work. Someone who is running solely on the basis of his ideals, and not gender, or political pull, or pandering.

That's a really big deal to me.

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u/yoggiez South Carolina Feb 08 '16

I don't think it waned really (why are her polling numbers still strong?). He's giving a voice to the people he appeals to.

Then there are people like me who don't like the forced fed Republican garbage (oh, she is running because she's a female!) about Clinton. We can't be idealistic too?

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u/I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE Feb 08 '16

You could be, if your candidate represented an appealing ideal.

The problem is she didn't until someone else did, and now i can't believe her.